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** Another Aesop is against needless HeroicSacrifice, with Poe\'s pressing the attack on the dreadnought after it became unnecessary [[PyrrhicVictory causing more causalities than it was worth]] and Rose preventing Finn\'s suicide attack against the [[WaveMotionGun battering ram cannon]] which was called off as it was more important to stay alive and fight another day. But the cannons successful firing would have doomed the heroes if not for the unforeseeable appearance of the \'\'Millennium Falcon\'\' and Luke Skywalker afterward, meaning the suicide attack \'\'was\'\' necessary as there were no other options at the time. The movie also presents Admiral Holdo and Luke Skywalker\'s sacrificing themselves positively despite similarly to Poe they were only necessary due to their mistakes (Holdo for not informing others of their plan casing it to fail and Luke]] for being unwilling to act until the last minute).
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** Another Aesop is against needless HeroicSacrifice, with Poe\\\'s pressing the attack on the dreadnought after it became unnecessary [[PyrrhicVictory causing more causalities than it was worth]] and Rose preventing Finn\\\'s suicide attack against the [[WaveMotionGun battering ram cannon]] which was called off as it was more important to stay alive and fight another day. But the cannons successful firing would have doomed the heroes if not for the unforeseeable appearance of the \\\'\\\'Millennium Falcon\\\'\\\' and Luke Skywalker afterward, meaning the suicide attack \\\'\\\'was\\\'\\\' necessary as there were no other options at the time. The movie also presents Admiral Holdo and Luke Skywalker\\\'s sacrificing themselves positively despite similarly to Poe they were only necessary due to their mistakes (Holdo for not informing others of their plan casing it to fail and Luke for being unwilling to act until the last minute).
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** Poe\'s subplot has his plan to save the Resistance failing due to its recklessness and compromising the much better plan Admiral Holdo was secretly enacting leading to massive casualties, teaching Poe against being a MilitaryMaverick and against using IndyPloy instead of by-the-book overt actions. But the only reason Poe encased such a risky plan was because Holdo kept her plan, which Poe realizes he would have gone along with had he known, secret despite how dire their situation was causing Poe to think he had no other choice. Even if the secrecy was justifiable due to Poe\'s recklessness and the possibility of a enemy spy, Holdo failed to prevent Poe from enacting his bad plan and her own plan would ultimately have been compromised by the hypothetical spy. Thus Holdo\'s overt methods which were supposed to be correct compared to Poe\'s improvised ones proved just as guilty of being poorly thought out and making mistakes that contributed to the ensuing tragedy with Holdo\'s own ensuing improvisation of ramming the enemy fleet at lightspeed being portrayed positively.
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** Poe\\\'s subplot has his plan to save the Resistance failing due to its recklessness and compromising the much better plan Admiral Holdo was secretly enacting leading to massive casualties, teaching Poe against being a MilitaryMaverick and against using IndyPloy instead of by-the-book overt actions. But the only reason Poe enacted such a risky plan was because Holdo kept her plan, which Poe realizes he would have gone along with had he known, secret despite how dire their situation was causing Poe to think he had no other choice. Even if the secrecy was justifiable due to Poe\\\'s recklessness and the possibility of a enemy spy, Holdo failed to prevent Poe from enacting his bad plan and her own plan would ultimately have been compromised by the hypothetical spy which she seemingly did nothing about. Thus Holdo\\\'s overt methods which were supposed to be correct compared to Poe\\\'s improvised ones were just as guilty of making mistakes and contributing to the ensuing tragedy with Holdo\\\'s own ensuing improvisation of ramming the enemy fleet at lightspeed being portrayed positively.
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*** Another Aesop is against needless HeroicSacrifice, with Poe\'s pressing the attack on the dreadnought after it became unnecessary [[PyrrhicVictory causing more causalities than it was worth]] and Rose preventing Finn\'s suicide attack against the [[WaveMotionGun battering ram cannon]] which was called off as it was more important to stay alive and fight another day. But the cannons successful firing would have doomed the heroes if not for the unforeseeable appearance of the \'\'Millennium Falcon\'\' and Luke Skywalker afterward, meaning the suicide attack \'\'was\'\' necessary as there were no other options at the time. The movie also presents Admiral Holdo and Luke Skywalker\'s sacrificing themselves positively despite similarly to Poe they were only necessary due to their mistakes (Holdo for not informing others of their plan casing it to fail and Luke]] for being unwilling to act until the last minute).
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** Another Aesop is against needless HeroicSacrifice, with Poe\\\'s pressing the attack on the dreadnought after it became unnecessary [[PyrrhicVictory causing more causalities than it was worth]] and Rose preventing Finn\\\'s suicide attack against the [[WaveMotionGun battering ram cannon]] which was called off as it was more important to stay alive and fight another day. But the cannons successful firing would have doomed the heroes if not for the unforeseeable appearance of the \\\'\\\'Millennium Falcon\\\'\\\' and Luke Skywalker afterward, meaning the suicide attack \\\'\\\'was\\\'\\\' necessary as there were no other options at the time. The movie also presents Admiral Holdo and Luke Skywalker\\\'s sacrificing themselves positively despite similarly to Poe they were only necessary due to their mistakes (Holdo for not informing others of their plan casing it to fail and Luke]] for being unwilling to act until the last minute).
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