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* At no point does he imply just taking them to Shade would be enough to fix the issues. He outright says they need to \
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* At no point does he imply just taking them to Shade would be enough to fix the issues. He outright says they need to \\\"make up for lost time\\\", a phrase typically associated for reconnecting. He even makes it clear when talking to Neptune his focus will be entirely on working with his team now:
->\\\'\\\'\\\'Sun:\\\'\\\'\\\' \\\'\\\'Besides, now that your leader\\\'s back and hardened from battle, I\\\'ve gotta focus all of my time into getting you boys ready for the wastelands!\\\'\\\'
* So the scene in Volume 6 \\\'\\\'firmly\\\'\\\' establishes that Sun \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' aware of his faults, and wants to improve. \\\'\\\'Before the Dawn\\\'\\\' however changes that to Sun suddenly invoking NeverMyFault, constantly saying his team needs to just get over it already, and never admitting whether any of Scarlet\\\'s criticisms are valid or not until he sits down and chats with Velvet. So it takes the fact that Sun was self-aware enough to acknowledge his faults and decides to \\\'\\\'ignore\\\'\\\' that, subjecting him to AesopAmnesia for the sake of making him learn an aesop he had already learned.
* Long short of it is, I object to their removal of the trope AesopAmnesia and argue it is \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' Trope Misuse. In fact, this trope is just a microcosm of what many readers have seen as a {{downplayed|Trope}} case of CharacterDerailment for Sun, casting him in an unfavorable light just to make him need to learn a lesson. And while CharacterDerailment \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' FlameBait, it is a prevalent enough topic amongst readers of the book that it may as well be YMMV.
->\\\'\\\'\\\'Sun:\\\'\\\'\\\' \\\'\\\'Besides, now that your leader\\\'s back and hardened from battle, I\\\'ve gotta focus all of my time into getting you boys ready for the wastelands!\\\'\\\'
* So the scene in Volume 6 \\\'\\\'firmly\\\'\\\' establishes that Sun \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' aware of his faults, and wants to improve. \\\'\\\'Before the Dawn\\\'\\\' however changes that to Sun suddenly invoking NeverMyFault, constantly saying his team needs to just get over it already, and never admitting whether any of Scarlet\\\'s criticisms are valid or not until he sits down and chats with Velvet. So it takes the fact that Sun was self-aware enough to acknowledge his faults and decides to \\\'\\\'ignore\\\'\\\' that, subjecting him to AesopAmnesia for the sake of making him learn an aesop he had already learned.
* Long short of it is, I object to their removal of the trope AesopAmnesia and argue it is \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' Trope Misuse. In fact, this trope is just a microcosm of what many readers have seen as a {{downplayed|Trope}} case of CharacterDerailment for Sun, casting him in an unfavorable light just to make him need to learn a lesson. And while CharacterDerailment \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' FlameBait, it is a prevalent enough topic amongst readers of the book that it may as well be YMMV.
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However, I\'d like to explain \'\'why\'\' this reasoning doesn\'t work. In Recap/RWBYV6E1ArgusLimited, Sun makes it perfectly clear to Blake that he is self-aware enough to know he has been a \'\'horrible\'\' leader and needs to improve:
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However, I\'d like to explain \'\'why\'\' this reasoning doesn\'t work. In Recap/RWBYV6E1ArgusLimited, Sun makes it perfectly clear to Blake that he is self-aware enough to know he has been a \'\'horrible\'\' leader and needs to improve:
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* However, I\\\'d like to explain \\\'\\\'why\\\'\\\' this reasoning doesn\\\'t work. In Recap/RWBYV6E1ArgusLimited, Sun makes it perfectly clear to Blake that he is self-aware enough to know he has been a \\\'\\\'horrible\\\'\\\' leader and needs to improve:
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At no point does he imply just taking them to Shade would be enough to fix the issues. He outright says they need to \
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* At no point does he imply just taking them to Shade would be enough to fix the issues. He outright says they need to \\\"make up for lost time\\\", a phrase typically associated for reconnecting. He even makes it clear when talking to Neptune his focus will be entirely on working with his team now:
->\\\'\\\'\\\'Sun:\\\'\\\'\\\' \\\'\\\'Besides, now that your leader\\\'s back and hardened from battle, I\\\'ve gotta focus all of my time into getting you boys ready for the wastelands!\\\'\\\'
* So the scene in Volume 6 \\\'\\\'firmly\\\'\\\' establishes that Sun \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' aware of his faults, and wants to improve. \\\'\\\'Before the Dawn\\\'\\\' however changes that to Sun suddenly invoking NeverMyFault, constantly saying his team needs to just get over it already, and never admitting whether any of Scarlet\\\'s criticisms are valid or not until he sits down and chats with Velvet. So it takes the fact that Sun was self-aware enough to acknowledge his faults and decides to \\\'\\\'ignore\\\'\\\' that, subjecting him to AesopAmnesia for the sake of making him learn an aesop he had already learned.
* Long short of it is, I object to their removal of the trope AesopAmnesia and argue it is \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' Trope Misuse. In fact, this trope is just a microcosm of what many readers have seen as a {{downplayed|Trope}} case of CharacterDerailment for Sun, casting him in an unfavorable light just to make him need to learn a lesson. And while CharacterDerailment \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' FlameBait, it is a prevalent enough topic amongst readers of the book that it may as well be YMMV.
->\\\'\\\'\\\'Sun:\\\'\\\'\\\' \\\'\\\'Besides, now that your leader\\\'s back and hardened from battle, I\\\'ve gotta focus all of my time into getting you boys ready for the wastelands!\\\'\\\'
* So the scene in Volume 6 \\\'\\\'firmly\\\'\\\' establishes that Sun \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' aware of his faults, and wants to improve. \\\'\\\'Before the Dawn\\\'\\\' however changes that to Sun suddenly invoking NeverMyFault, constantly saying his team needs to just get over it already, and never admitting whether any of Scarlet\\\'s criticisms are valid or not until he sits down and chats with Velvet. So it takes the fact that Sun was self-aware enough to acknowledge his faults and decides to \\\'\\\'ignore\\\'\\\' that, subjecting him to AesopAmnesia for the sake of making him learn an aesop he had already learned.
* Long short of it is, I object to their removal of the trope AesopAmnesia and argue it is \\\'\\\'not\\\'\\\' Trope Misuse. In fact, this trope is just a microcosm of what many readers have seen as a {{downplayed|Trope}} case of CharacterDerailment for Sun, casting him in an unfavorable light just to make him need to learn a lesson. And while CharacterDerailment \\\'\\\'is\\\'\\\' FlameBait, it is a prevalent enough topic amongst readers of the book that it may as well be YMMV.
