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* BrokenAesop: In Miles\\\' own words, \\\"anyone can wear the mask\\\", and anyone can be a hero if they choose to be. While it is an empowering thought, there is nothing in the movie to support this message. The type of heroic activity we see expected of those wearing a spider mask can only be fulfilled by those with special powers. Miles\\\' determinism only gets him so far. In order to save the day, he had to fully realize his spider powers which he gained through a freak accident.

Troper Dirtyblue929 removed the entry with the following comment:

\\\'\\\'It\\\'s extremely reaching to say that the \\\"anyone can do heroic things\\\" aesop is broken just because the main character has superhuman abilities. The film goes out of its way to show a culturally and ethnically diverse set of heroes and features several characters who have no powers but nonetheless risk their lives and/or provide crucial aid to the heroes. The point is not anyone can be a badass acrobat who stops mob bosses singlehandedly, it\\\'s gender, race, and age are not barriers to heroism.\\\'\\\'

Firstly, I would like to know who are the several muggles risking their lives to aid the heroes. I only remember Peter\\\'s aunt who would fit the bill. So I am not yet seeing a strong message being displayed on that front. Secondly, what the aesop is trying to communicate is that anyone who puts their mind to it can save the day. The diversity of spider characters (again, I don\\\'t remember any diverse heroic muggle group) is not sufficient to bring that point across since none of them got to that position by choice and determination but by accident.
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* BrokenAesop: In Miles\\\' own words, \\\"anyone can wear the mask\\\", and anyone can be a hero if they choose to be. While it is an empowering thought, there is nothing in the movie to support this message. The type of heroic activity we see expected of those wearing a spider mask can only be fulfilled by those with special powers. Miles\\\' determinism only gets him so far. In order to save the day, he had to fully realize his spider powers which he gained through a freak accident.

Troper Dirtyblue929 removed the entry with the following comment:

\\\'\\\'It\\\'s extremely reaching to say that the \\\"anyone can do heroic things\\\" aesop is broken just because the main character has superhuman abilities. The film goes out of its way to show a culturally and ethnically diverse set of heroes and features several characters who have no powers but nonetheless risk their lives and/or provide crucial aid to the heroes. The point is not anyone can be a badass acrobat who stops mob bosses singlehandedly, it\\\'s gender, race, and age are not barriers to heroism.\\\'\\\'

Firstly, I would like to know who are the several muggles risking their lives to aid the heroes. I only remember Peter\\\'s aunt who would fit the bill. So I am not yet seeing a strong message being displayed on that front. Secondly, what the aesop is trying to communicate is that anyone who puts their mind to it can save the day. The diversity of spider characters (again, I don\\\'t remember any diverse heroic muggle group) is not sufficient to bring that point across if none of them got to that position by choice and determination but by accident.
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* BrokenAesop: In Miles\' own words, \
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* BrokenAesop: In Miles\\\' own words, \\\"anyone can wear the mask\\\", and anyone can be a hero if they choose to be. While it is an empowering thought, there is nothing in the movie to support this message. The type of heroic activity we see expected of those wearing a spider mask can only be fulfilled by those with special powers. Miles\\\' determinism only gets him so far. In order to save the day, he had to fully realize his spider powers which he gained through a freak accident.

Troper Dirtyblue929 removed the entry with the following comment:

\\\'\\\'It\\\'s extremely reaching to say that the \\\"anyone can do heroic things\\\" aesop is broken just because the main character has superhuman abilities. The film goes out of its way to show a culturally and ethnically diverse set of heroes and features several characters who have no powers but nonetheless risk their lives and/or provide crucial aid to the heroes. The point is not \\\"anyone can be a badass acrobat who stops mob bosses singlehandedly, it\\\'s gender, race, and age are not barriers to heroism.\\\'\\\'

Firstly, I would like to know who are the several muggles risking their lives to aid the heroes. I only remember Peter\\\'s aunt who would fit the bill. So I am not yet seeing a strong message being displayed on that front. Secondly, what the aesop is trying to communicate is that anyone who puts their mind to it can save the day. The diversity of spider characters (again, I don\\\'t remember any diverse heroic muggle group) is not sufficient to bring that point across if none of them got to that position by choice and determination but by accident.
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* BrokenAesop: In Miles\' own words, \
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* BrokenAesop: In Miles\\\' own words, \\\"anyone can wear the mask\\\", and anyone can be a hero if they choose to be. While it is an empowering thought, there is nothing in the movie to support this message. The type of heroic activity we see expected of those wearing a spider mask can only be fulfilled by those with special powers. Miles\\\' determinism only gets him so far. In order to save the day, he had to fully realize his spider powers which he gained through a freak accident.

Troper Dirtyblue929 removed the entry with the following comment:

\\\'\\\'It\\\'s extremely reaching to say that the \\\"anyone can do heroic things\\\" aesop is broken just because the main character has superhuman abilities. The film goes out of its way to show a culturally and ethnically diverse set of heroes and features several characters who have no powers but nonetheless risk their lives and/or provide crucial aid to the heroes. The point is not \\\"anyone can be a badass acrobat who stops mob bosses singlehandedly\\\", it\\\'s \\\"gender, race, and age are not barriers to heroism\\\".\\\'\\\'

Firstly, I would like to know who are the several muggles risking their lives to aid the heroes. I only remember Peter\\\'s aunt who would fit the bill. So I am not yet seeing a strong message being displayed on that front. Secondly, what the aesop is trying to communicate is that anyone who puts their mind to it can save the day. The diversity of spider characters (again, I don\\\'t remember any diverse heroic muggle group) is not sufficient to bring that point across if none of them got to that position by choice and determination but by accident.
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