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[008] Ninja857142

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Even if some of his behavior was radical, that does not explicitly confirm his exact mental state. And that still doesn't dismiss the meat of my point. Even if his radical mindset damaged him, his poor performance still broke a lot of viewers' expectations. Because of his ''alleged'' mental state, he was struck down badly in combat, and was driven off. We had no indication beforehand that his ''alleged'' mental state would cause him to fail so badly, so yes, this still breaks expectations.

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Even if some of his behavior was radical, that does not explicitly confirm his exact mental state. And that still doesn\'t dismiss the meat of my point. Even if his radical mindset damaged him, his poor performance still broke a lot of viewers\' expectations. Because of his \'\'alleged\'\' mental state, he was struck down badly in combat, and was driven off. We had no indication beforehand that his \'\'alleged\'\' mental state would cause him to fail so badly, so yes, this still breaks expectations.

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Maybe I shouldn't have brought up that scene, but from what I can see, at the camera change right after Adam slices, Blake is suddenly close enough that she should have been cut in half in the previous slice. So either the sword passed through Blake, or she pulls an implausibly sudden position change in the split-second camera shift. But either way, my point is that there's no clear-cut evidence that Adam was

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Maybe I shouldn\'t have brought up that scene, but from what I can see, at the camera change right after Adam slices, Blake is suddenly close enough that she should have been cut in half in the previous slice. So either the sword passed through Blake, or she pulls an implausibly sudden position change in the split-second camera shift. But either way, my point is that there\'s no clear-cut evidence that Adam was \"off-balance\" or out of control. Blake, as far as I can tell, just pulled an incredibly fast FlashStep.

Again, I don\'t think WarmupBoss even applies outside games, and even if it did, Adam was powerful enough to beat both Blake and Yang, and was fought here 5 seasons in, so I don\'t see how he is one. Adam was the leader of a prominent terrorist organization that was a major source of conflict; that doesn\'t strike me as mini-boss material. Corsac and Fennec look more like mini-boss material. Aside from Adam, the only people who strike me as even more \"boss\" material are Salem, Cinder, and Raven. One of those is the BigBad, another is TheDragon, and the other could defeat TheDragon, so that\'s a very stringent criteria for \"boss\" if Adam\'s only a MiniBoss. Ilia strikes me as more the mini-boss for Blake (if not a flat-out boss herself).

And I will contend he was defeated; he had a physical clash with Blake and Sun, and was driven off, ending his plan and his leadership of the present White Fang forces. He is effectively defeated. It was a short fight, but it was still a fight.

[007] Ninja857142

10th Apr '18 at 09:39:09 AM

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Even if some of his behavior was radical, that does not explicitly confirm his exact mental state. And that still doesn't dismiss the meat of my point. Even if his radical mindset damaged him, his poor performance still broke a lot of viewers' expectations. Because of his ''alleged'' mental state, he was struck down badly in combat, and was driven off. We had no indication beforehand that his ''alleged'' mental state would cause him to fail so badly, so yes, this still breaks expectations.

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Even if some of his behavior was radical, that does not explicitly confirm his exact mental state. And that still doesn\'t dismiss the meat of my point. Even if his radical mindset damaged him, his poor performance still broke a lot of viewers\' expectations. Because of his \'\'alleged\'\' mental state, he was struck down badly in combat, and was driven off. We had no indication beforehand that his \'\'alleged\'\' mental state would cause him to fail so badly, so yes, this still breaks expectations.

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Maybe I shouldn't have brought up that scene, but from what I can see, at the camera change right after Adam slices, Blake is suddenly close enough that she should have been cut in half in the previous slice. So either the sword passed through Blake, or she pulls an implausibly sudden position change in the split-second camera shift. But either way, my point is that there's no clear-cut evidence that Adam was

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Maybe I shouldn\'t have brought up that scene, but from what I can see, at the camera change right after Adam slices, Blake is suddenly close enough that she should have been cut in half in the previous slice. So either the sword passed through Blake, or she pulls an implausibly sudden position change in the split-second camera shift. But either way, my point is that there\'s no clear-cut evidence that Adam was \"off-balance\" or out of control. Blake, as far as I can tell, just pulled an incredibly fast FlashStep.

Again, I don\'t think WarmupBoss even applies outside games, and even if it did, Adam was powerful enough to beat both Blake and Yang, and was fought here 5 seasons in, so I don\'t see how he is one. Adam was the leader of a prominent terrorist organization that was a major source of conflict; that doesn\'t strike me as mini-boss material. Corsac and Fennec look more like mini-boss material. Aside from Adam, the only people who strike me as even more \"boss\" material are Salem, Cinder, and Raven. One of those is the BigBad, another is TheDragon, and the other could defeat TheDragon, so that\'s a very stringent criteria for \"boss\" if Adam\'s only a MiniBoss. Ilia strikes me as more the mini-boss for Blake.

And I will contend he was defeated; he had a physical clash with Blake and Sun, and was driven off, ending his plan and his leadership of the present White Fang forces. He is effectively defeated. It was a short fight, but it was still a fight.

[006] Ninja857142

10th Apr '18 at 09:32:12 AM

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Even if some of his behavior was radical, that does not explicitly confirm his exact mental state. And that still doesn't dismiss the meat of my point. Even if his radical mindset damaged him, his poor performance still broke a lot of viewers' expectations. Because of his ''alleged'' mental state, he lost so badly in combat, and was beaten and driven off. We had no indication beforehand that his ''alleged'' mental state would cause him to lose so badly, so yes, this still breaks expectations.

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Even if some of his behavior was radical, that does not explicitly confirm his exact mental state. And that still doesn\'t dismiss the meat of my point. Even if his radical mindset damaged him, his poor performance still broke a lot of viewers\' expectations. Because of his \'\'alleged\'\' mental state, he was struck down badly in combat, and was driven off. We had no indication beforehand that his \'\'alleged\'\' mental state would cause him to fail so badly, so yes, this still breaks expectations.

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Maybe I shouldn't have brought up that scene, but from what I can see, at the camera change right after Adam slices, Blake is suddenly close enough that she should have been cut in half in the previous slice. So either the sword passed through Blake, or she pulls an implausibly sudden position change in the split-second camera shift. But either way, my point is that there's no clear-cut evidence that Adam was

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Maybe I shouldn\'t have brought up that scene, but from what I can see, at the camera change right after Adam slices, Blake is suddenly close enough that she should have been cut in half in the previous slice. So either the sword passed through Blake, or she pulls an implausibly sudden position change in the split-second camera shift. But either way, my point is that there\'s no clear-cut evidence that Adam was \"off-balance\" or out of control. Blake, as far as I can tell, just pulled an incredibly fast counter.

Again, I don\'t think WarmupBoss even applies outside games, and even if it did, Adam was powerful enough to beat both Blake and Yang, and was fought here 5 seasons in, so I don\'t see how he is one. Adam was the leader of a prominent terrorist organization that was a major source of conflict; that doesn\'t strike me as mini-boss material. Corsac and Fennec look more like mini-boss material. Aside from Adam, the only people who strike me as even more \"boss\" material are Salem, Cinder, and Raven. One of those is the BigBad, another is TheDragon, and the other could defeat TheDragon, so that\'s a very stringent criteria for \"boss\" if Adam\'s only a MiniBoss. Ilia strikes me as more the mini-boss for Blake.

And I will contend he was defeated; he had a physical clash with Blake and Sun, and was driven off, ending his plan and his leadership of the present White Fang forces. He is effectively defeated. It was a short fight, but it was still a fight.

[005] Ninja857142

10th Apr '18 at 09:29:35 AM

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Even if some of his behavior was radical, that does not explicitly confirm his exact mental state. And that still doesn't dismiss the meat of my point. Even if his radical mindset damaged him, his poor performance still broke a lot of viewers' expectations. Because of his ''alleged'' mental state, he lost so badly in combat, and was beaten and driven off. We had no indication beforehand that his ''alleged'' mental state would cause him to lose so badly, so yes, this still breaks expectations.

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Even if some of his behavior was radical, that does not explicitly confirm his exact mental state. And that still doesn\'t dismiss the meat of my point. Even if his radical mindset damaged him, his poor performance still broke a lot of viewers\' expectations. Because of his \'\'alleged\'\' mental state, he lost so badly in combat, and was beaten and driven off. We had no indication beforehand that his \'\'alleged\'\' mental state would cause him to lose so badly, so yes, this still breaks expectations.

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Maybe I shouldn't have brought up that scene, but from what I can see, at the camera change right after Adam slices, Blake is suddenly close enough that she should have been cut in half in the previous slice. So either the sword passed through Blake, or she pulls an implausibly sudden position change in the split-second camera shift. But either way, my point is that there's no clear-cut evidence that Adam was

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Maybe I shouldn\'t have brought up that scene, but from what I can see, at the camera change right after Adam slices, Blake is suddenly close enough that she should have been cut in half in the previous slice. So either the sword passed through Blake, or she pulls an implausibly sudden position change in the split-second camera shift. But either way, my point is that there\'s no clear-cut evidence that Adam was \"off-balance\" or out of control. Blake, as far as I can tell, just pulled an incredibly fast counter.

Again, I don\'t think WarmupBoss even applies outside games, and even if it did, Adam was powerful enough to beat both Blake and Yang, and was fought here 5 seasons in, so I don\'t see how he is one. Adam was the leader of a prominent terrorist organization that was a major source of conflict; that doesn\'t strike me as mini-boss material. Corsac and Fennec look more like mini-boss material. Aside from Adam, the only people who strike me as even more \"boss\" material are Salem, Cinder, and Raven. One of those is the BigBad, another is TheDragon, and the other could defeat TheDragon, so that\'s a very stringent criteria for \"boss\" if Adam\'s only a MiniBoss. Ilia strikes me as more the mini-boss for Blake.

And I will contend he was defeated; he had a physical clash with Blake and Sun, and was driven off, ending his plan and his leadership of the present White Fang forces. He is effectively defeated. It was a short fight, but it was still a fight.

[004] Ninja857142

10th Apr '18 at 09:22:36 AM

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Even if some of his behavior was radical, that does not explicitly confirm his exact mental state. And that still doesn't dismiss the meat of my point. Even if his radical mindset damaged him, his poor performance still broke a lot of viewers' expectations. Because of his ''alleged'' mental state, he fell apart so badly in combat, and was beaten and driven off. We had no indication beforehand that his ''alleged'' mental state would cause him to fall apart so badly, so yes, this still breaks expectations.

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Even if some of his behavior was radical, that does not explicitly confirm his exact mental state. And that still doesn\'t dismiss the meat of my point. Even if his radical mindset damaged him, his poor performance still broke a lot of viewers\' expectations. Because of his \'\'alleged\'\' mental state, he lost so badly in combat, and was beaten and driven off. We had no indication beforehand that his \'\'alleged\'\' mental state would cause him to lose so badly, so yes, this still breaks expectations.

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Maybe I shouldn't have brought up that scene, but from what I can see, at the camera change right after Adam slices, Blake is suddenly close enough that she should have been cut in half in the previous slice. So either the sword passed through Blake, or she pulls an implausibly sudden position change in the split-second camera shift. But either way, my point is that there's no clear-cut evidence that Adam was

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Maybe I shouldn\'t have brought up that scene, but from what I can see, at the camera change right after Adam slices, Blake is suddenly close enough that she should have been cut in half in the previous slice. So either the sword passed through Blake, or she pulls an implausibly sudden position change in the split-second camera shift. But either way, my point is that there\'s no clear-cut evidence that Adam was \"off-balance\" or out of control. Blake, as far as I can tell, just pulled an incredibly fast counter.

Again, I don\'t think WarmupBoss even applies outside games, and even if it did, Adam was powerful enough to beat both Blake and Yang, and was fought here 5 seasons in, so I don\'t see how he is one. Adam was the leader of a prominent terrorist organization that was a major source of conflict; that doesn\'t strike me as mini-boss material. Corsac and Fennec look more like mini-boss material. Aside from Adam, the only people who strike me as even more \"boss\" material are Salem, Cinder, and Raven.

And I will contend he was defeated; he had a physical clash with Blake and Sun, and was driven off, ending his plan and his leadership of the present White Fang forces. He is effectively defeated. It was a short fight, but it was still a fight.

[003] Ninja857142

10th Apr '18 at 09:18:17 AM

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Even if some of his behavior was radical, that does not explicitly confirm his exact mental state. And that still doesn't dismiss the meat of my point. Even if his radical mindset damaged him, his poor performance still broke a lot of viewers' expectations. Because of his ''alleged'' mental state, he fell apart so badly in combat, and was beaten and driven off. We had no indication beforehand that his ''alleged'' mental state would cause him to fall apart so badly, so yes, this still breaks expectations.

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Even if some of his behavior was radical, that does not explicitly confirm his exact mental state. And that still doesn\'t dismiss the meat of my point. Even if his radical mindset damaged him, his poor performance still broke a lot of viewers\' expectations. Because of his \'\'alleged\'\' mental state, he fell apart so badly in combat, and was beaten and driven off. We had no indication beforehand that his \'\'alleged\'\' mental state would cause him to fall apart so badly, so yes, this still breaks expectations.

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Maybe I shouldn't have brought up that scene, but from what I can see, at the camera change right after Adam slices, Blake is suddenly close enough that she should have been cut in half in the previous slice. So either the sword passed through Blake, or she pulls an implausibly sudden position change in the split-second camera shift. But either way, my point is that there's no clear-cut evidence that Adam was

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Maybe I shouldn\'t have brought up that scene, but from what I can see, at the camera change right after Adam slices, Blake is suddenly close enough that she should have been cut in half in the previous slice. So either the sword passed through Blake, or she pulls an implausibly sudden position change in the split-second camera shift. But either way, my point is that there\'s no clear-cut evidence that Adam was \"off-balance\" or out of control. Blake, as far as I can tell, just pulled an incredibly fast counter.

Again, I don\'t think WarmupBoss even applies outside games, and even if it did, Adam was powerful enough to beat both Blake and Yang, and was fought here 5 seasons in, so I don\'t see how he is one. Adam was the leader of a prominent terrorist organization that was a major source of conflict; that doesn\'t strike me as mini-boss material. Corsac and Fennec look more like mini-boss material. Aside from Adam, the only people who strike me as even more \"boss\" material are Salem, Cinder, and Raven.

And I will contend he was defeated; he had a physical clash with Blake and Sun, and was driven off, ending his plan and his leadership of the present White Fang forces. He is effectively defeated. It was a short fight, but it was still a fight.

[002] Ninja857142

10th Apr '18 at 09:17:18 AM

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Even if some of his behavior was radical, that does not explicitly confirm his exact mental state. And that still doesn't dismiss the meat of my point. Even if his radical mindset damaged him, his poor performance still broke a lot of viewers' expectations. Because of his ''alleged'' mental state, he fell apart so badly in combat, and was beaten and driven off. We had no indication beforehand that his ''alleged'' mental state would cause him to fall apart so badly, so yes, this still breaks expectations.

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Even if some of his behavior was radical, that does not explicitly confirm his exact mental state. And that still doesn\'t dismiss the meat of my point. Even if his radical mindset damaged him, his poor performance still broke a lot of viewers\' expectations. Because of his \'\'alleged\'\' mental state, he fell apart so badly in combat, and was beaten and driven off. We had no indication beforehand that his \'\'alleged\'\' mental state would cause him to fall apart so badly, so yes, this still breaks expectations.

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Maybe I shouldn't have brought up that scene, but from what I can see, at the camera change right after Adam slices, Blake is suddenly close enough that she should have been cut in half in the previous slice. So either the sword passed through Blake, or she pulls an implausibly sudden position change in the split-second camera shift. But either way, my point is that there's no clear-cut evidence that Adam was

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Maybe I shouldn\'t have brought up that scene, but from what I can see, at the camera change right after Adam slices, Blake is suddenly close enough that she should have been cut in half in the previous slice. So either the sword passed through Blake, or she pulls an implausibly sudden position change in the split-second camera shift. But either way, my point is that there\'s no clear-cut evidence that Adam was \"off-balance\" or out of control. Blake, as far as I can tell, just pulled an incredibly fast counter.

Again, I don\'t think WarmupBoss even applies outside games, and even if it did, Adam was powerful enough to beat both Blake and Yang, and was fought here 5 seasons in, so I don\'t see how he is one. Adam was the leader of a prominent terrorist organization in the show that was a major source of conflict; that doesn\'t strike me as mini-boss material. Corsac and Fennec look more like mini-boss material. Aside from Adam, the only people who strike me as even more \"boss\" material are Salem, Cinder, and Raven.

And I will contend he was defeated; he had a physical clash with Blake and Sun, and was driven off, ending his plan and his leadership of the present White Fang forces. He is effectively defeated. It was a short fight, but it was still a fight.

[001] Ninja857142

10th Apr '18 at 09:13:46 AM

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Even if some of his behavior was radical, that does not explicitly confirm his exact mental state. And that still doesn't dismiss the meat of my point. Even if his radical mindset damaged him, his poor performance still broke a lot of viewers' expectations. Because of his ''alleged'' mental state, he fell apart so badly in combat, and was beaten and driven off. We had no indication beforehand that his ''alleged'' mental state would cause him to fall apart so badly, so yes, this still breaks expectations.

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Even if some of his behavior was radical, that does not explicitly confirm his exact mental state. And that still doesn\'t dismiss the meat of my point. Even if his radical mindset damaged him, his poor performance still broke a lot of viewers\' expectations. Because of his \'\'alleged\'\' mental state, he fell apart so badly in combat, and was beaten and driven off. We had no indication beforehand that his \'\'alleged\'\' mental state would cause him to fall apart so badly, so yes, this still breaks expectations.

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Maybe I shouldn't have brought up that scene, but from what I can see, at the camera change right after Adam slices, Blake is suddenly close enough that she should have been cut in half in the previous slice. So either the sword passed through Blake, or she pulls an implausibly sudden position change in the split-second camera shift. But either way, my point is that there's no clear-cut evidence that Adam was

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Maybe I shouldn\'t have brought up that scene, but from what I can see, at the camera change right after Adam slices, Blake is suddenly close enough that she should have been cut in half in the previous slice. So either the sword passed through Blake, or she pulls an implausibly sudden position change in the split-second camera shift. But either way, my point is that there\'s no clear-cut evidence that Adam was \"off-balance\" or out of control. Blake, as far as I can tell, just pulled an incredibly fast counter.

Again, I don\'t think warm-up boss even applies outside games, and even if it did, Adam was powerful enough to beat both Blake and Yang, and was fought here 5 seasons in, so I don\'t see how he is one. Adam was the leader of a prominent terrorist organization in the show that was a major source of conflict; that doesn\'t strike me as mini-boss material. Corsac and Fennec look more like mini-boss material. Aside from Adam, the only people who strike me as even more \"boss\" material are Salem, Cinder, and Raven.

And I will contend he was defeated; he had a physical clash with Blake and Sun, and was driven off, ending his plan and his leadership of the present White Fang forces. He is effectively defeated. It was a short fight, but it was still a fight.

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