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Apocrypha, I see where you are coming from and I see merit in your arguments, but still, I can't accept the execution (no pun intended) of that scene.
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Apocrypha, I see where you are coming from and I see merit in your arguments, but still, I can\'t accept the execution (no pun intended) of that scene.
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Sure, Luke can slip up, that's not the actual problem. He could lash out at Ben or give him a cold shoulder or banish him for some morally ambiguous action. Instead, Luke takes lightsaber, goes into a tent of his student at night, mentally probes him and for a brief moment decides to kill him. These ''circumstances'' are very much out of character and come from nowhere. They are indeed [[ShockingSwerve shocking.]][[note]]''A Shocking Swerve is a plot twist made just to have a plot twist. There's little-to-no rhyme or reason involved, no {{foreshadowing}}, and no way that the viewer/reader/player could have ever seen it coming. They just [[AssPull pulled it out of nowhere]] out of a misguided desire to
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Sure, Luke can slip up, that\'s not the actual problem. He could lash out at Ben or give him a cold shoulder or banish him for some morally ambiguous action. Instead, Luke takes lightsaber, goes into a tent of his student at night, mentally probes him, has some sort of vision and for a brief moment decides to kill him. These \'\'circumstances\'\' are very much out of character and come from nowhere. They are indeed [[ShockingSwerve shocking.]][[note]]\'\'A Shocking Swerve is a plot twist made just to have a plot twist. There\'s little-to-no rhyme or reason involved, no {{foreshadowing}}, and no way that the viewer/reader/player could have ever seen it coming. They just [[AssPull pulled it out of nowhere]] out of a misguided desire to \"shock\" the viewer/reader/player. TheLawOfConservationOfDetail may be violated, [[CharacterDerailment characters may be derailed]], [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot subplots may be ruined]], and generally everything that\'s occurred so far may be [[{{Retcon}} thrown out the window]], just to pull off this twist.\'\'[[/note]]
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Apocrypha, I see where you are coming from and I see merit in your arguments, but still, I can't accept the execution (no pun intended) of that scene.
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Apocrypha, I see where you are coming from and I see merit in your arguments, but still, I can\'t accept the execution (no pun intended) of that scene.
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Sure, Luke can slip up, that's not the actual problem. He could lash out at Ben or give him a cold shoulder or banish him for some morally ambiguous action. Instead, Luke takes lightsaber, goes into a tent of his student at night, mentally probes him and for a brief moment decides to kill him. These ''circumstances'' are very much out of character and come from nowhere. They are indeed [[ShockingSwerve shocking.]]
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Sure, Luke can slip up, that\'s not the actual problem. He could lash out at Ben or give him a cold shoulder or banish him for some morally ambiguous action. Instead, Luke takes lightsaber, goes into a tent of his student at night, mentally probes him and for a brief moment decides to kill him. These \'\'circumstances\'\' are very much out of character and come from nowhere. They are indeed [[ShockingSwerve shocking.]][[note]]\'\'A Shocking Swerve is a plot twist made just to have a plot twist. There\'s little-to-no rhyme or reason involved, no {{foreshadowing}}, and no way that the viewer/reader/player could have ever seen it coming. They just [[AssPull pulled it out of nowhere]] out of a misguided desire to \"shock\" the viewer/reader/player. TheLawOfConservationOfDetail may be violated, [[CharacterDerailment characters may be derailed]], [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot subplots may be ruined]], and generally everything that\'s occurred so far may be [[{{Retcon}} thrown out the window]], just to pull off this twist.\'\'[[/note]]
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SatoshiBakura, do you mean that two situations are the same or that the situation is a completely different matter?
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Satoshi Bakura, do you mean that two situations are the same or that the situation is a completely different matter?
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Apocrypha, I see where you are coming from and I see merit in your arguments, but still, I can't accept the execution (no pun intended) of that scene.
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Apocrypha, I see where you are coming from and I see merit in your arguments, but still, I can\'t accept the execution (no pun intended) of that scene.
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Sure, Luke can slip up, that's not the actual problem. He could lash out at Ben or give him a cold shoulder or banish him for some morally ambiguous action. Instead, Luke takes lightsaber, goes into a tent of his student at night, mentally probes him and for a brief moment decides to kill him. These ''circumstances'' are very much out of character and come from nowhere. They are indeed [[ShockingSwerve shocking.]]
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Sure, Luke can slip up, that\'s not the actual problem. He could lash out at Ben or give him a cold shoulder or banish him for some morally ambiguous action. Instead, Luke takes lightsaber, goes into a tent of his student at night, mentally probes him and for a brief moment decides to kill him. These \'\'circumstances\'\' are very much out of character and come from nowhere. They are indeed [[ShockingSwerve shocking.]]
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