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Should we start a Shout-Out page? Lord knows we\'ve got enough for Ghosts alone.
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Should we start a Shout-Out page? Lord knows we\\\'ve got enough for Ghosts alone, let alone all of the ones for CoS.
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As much as I hate the anime, tristan, NekoHybrid is arguing from ITS point of view. You deny that those examples happened, but in the anime, they did. While the anime is guilty of flanderizing many of the characters' worst traits (one of the reasons I hate it) and is even more guilty of fanfic-grade original episodes with terrible characterization (another reason to hate it), we can't flat out deny that it happened, especially when NekoHybrid's references to it are accurate. Consider it a separate canon if you must, but categorically rejecting examples drawn from it without explanation is bad form.
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As much as I hate the anime, tristan, NekoHybrid is arguing from ITS point of view. You deny that those examples happened, but in the anime, they did. While the anime is guilty of flanderizing many of the characters\' worst traits (one of the reasons I hate it) and is even more guilty of fanfic-grade original episodes with terrible characterization (another reason to hate it), we can\'t flat out deny that it happened, especially when NekoHybrid\'s references to it are accurate. Consider it a separate canon if you must, but categorically rejecting examples drawn from it without explanation is bad form.
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\"Hello? Ryoga was the one who started that fight when he finally ran into Ranma, who was on an errand for Dr. Tofu, after being a week late for his intended bout.\"
What are you even talking about? This is not a scene that ever happens.
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NH is referring to this:
http://www.mangareader.net/ranma-12/6/62
Hell, *I* was the one who put in the entry that \"Ryoga rarely ever ambushes Ranma out of the blue, it\'s usually Ranma who shows up out of nowhere to annoy him when Ryoga is minding his own business\", and I have to admit that Ryoga was in the wrong in the above scene. Even if he HAD sent a letter of challenge, that\'s not carte blanche to ambush his opponent outside of the formal duel, nor to destroy the object of the completely unrelated errand Ranma was running. Later, when Akane accuses Ranma of picking on Ryoga, she\'s only half-right: when Ranma catches Ryoga before he falls into the fountain, the latter thinks he\'s being humiliated and attacks. Ranma is understandably PO\'d at that and pretzels him. While we, the readers, are meant to take away that Ranma has grown considerably beyond Ryoga\'s reach, and Ranma himself doesn\'t even realize it until later, Akane DOES know, and sees his response as disproportionate and cruel (which is reasonable). So she\'s right that he was \"picking\" on someone weaker, but she immediately admits to Ryoga that Ranma himself isn\'t aware of his powerup, so she knows he wasn\'t doing it deliberately or out of malice.
(Also: the \"The Unfair Sex\" trope is about the *difference* between responses of male and female characters to personal offense. EVERYONE in Ranma inflicts slapstick violence to the source of their annoyance, yes, but the guys never hit the girls for any non-combat reason, while the girls are free to hit the guys for even the tiniest perceived slight. Whatever we think about it now, that was the norm in 70s and 80s comedy manga. Even Takahashi parodied this when Kasumi\'s version of a violent physical response is simply a gentle tap with her fingertip.)
What are you even talking about? This is not a scene that ever happens.
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NH is referring to this:
http://www.mangareader.net/ranma-12/6/62
Hell, *I* was the one who put in the entry that \"Ryoga rarely ever ambushes Ranma out of the blue, it\'s usually Ranma who shows up out of nowhere to annoy him when Ryoga is minding his own business\", and I have to admit that Ryoga was in the wrong in the above scene. Even if he HAD sent a letter of challenge, that\'s not carte blanche to ambush his opponent outside of the formal duel, nor to destroy the object of the completely unrelated errand Ranma was running. Later, when Akane accuses Ranma of picking on Ryoga, she\'s only half-right: when Ranma catches Ryoga before he falls into the fountain, the latter thinks he\'s being humiliated and attacks. Ranma is understandably PO\'d at that and pretzels him. While we, the readers, are meant to take away that Ranma has grown considerably beyond Ryoga\'s reach, and Ranma himself doesn\'t even realize it until later, Akane DOES know, and sees his response as disproportionate and cruel (which is reasonable). So she\'s right that he was \"picking\" on someone weaker, but she immediately admits to Ryoga that Ranma himself isn\'t aware of his powerup, so she knows he wasn\'t doing it deliberately or out of malice.
(Also: the \"The Unfair Sex\" trope is about the *difference* between responses of male and female characters to personal offense. EVERYONE in Ranma inflicts slapstick violence to the source of their annoyance, yes, but the guys never hit the girls for any non-combat reason, while the girls are free to hit the guys for even the tiniest perceived slight. Whatever we think about it now, that was the norm in 70s and 80s comedy manga. Even Takahashi parodied this when Kasumi\'s version of a violent physical response is simply a gentle tap with her fingertip.)
