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Regarding the \"Multiple Media\" folder, examples should go under the proper folder for the work in which the Xenafication actually takes place, meaning that those examples that are valid need to be recategorized. As written, though, a lot of these entries are bad. Let\'s go through them one-by-one:

* Maid Marian from the \'\'Myth/RobinHood\'\' legends is an odd case. She was an ActionGirl in some of her original appearances (fighting Robin to a standstill while disguised as a boy in one ballad). [[{{Bowdlerise}} Victorian writers]] [[{{Chickification}} turned her into]] TheChick. Modern writers tend to make her the ActionGirl again:
* Franchise/{{Superman}}\'s ComicBook/LoisLane. In the early comics, Lois is pretty capable of taking care of herself, thanks to the wits that came with her IntrepidReporter lifestyle. She didn\'t become a stock DamselInDistress until the Silver Age. Later adaptations have increasingly toughened her back up again:

^ If she was originally an ActionGirl, then making her an ActionGirl isn\'t Xenafication; it\'s the works in which she\'s \'\'not\'\' an ActionGirl that are engaging in {{Chickification}}. NotAnExample.

* Marian, the ladyfriend of the Lee brothers from the \'\'VideoGame/DoubleDragon\'\' video games who gets sucker-punched and carried off in the original arcade game, became a policewoman in the comic and animated adaptation of the series and a female gang leader (who just happens to be the daughter of a policeman) in the [[Film/DoubleDragon movie]]. The UsefulNotes/NeoGeo fighting game version influenced by the film followed suit and made her into one of the playable fighters in the game who can stand on her own against the likes of Abobo, Burnov and even the Lee Brothers themselves.

^ These all look like valid examples, but they should be written up separately and categorized under the ComicBook, WesternAnimation or Anime, and VideoGame folders respectively.

* The creator of the MagicalGirl genre in its initial form took inspiration from \'\'Series/{{Bewitched}},\'\' and the result was SliceOfLife with a dose of magic (and the need to [[TheMasquerade not let people know the magic hijinks are indeed magic]]). Pretty much the entire \'\'genre\'\' got Xenafied by \'\'Manga/SailorMoon\'\' and the MagicalGirlWarrior subgenre it inspired, which today is what most people think of when they hear the phrase \"Magical Girl\". Later series such as \'\'Anime/PrettyCure\'\' and \'\'Franchise/LyricalNanoha\'\' pumped up the action elements even further.

^ NotAnExample. \"Genres\" can\'t be Xenafied, only characters.

* In Myth/NorseMythology, Sif is Thor\'s quiet wife, known mainly for her beauty. In \'\'ComicBook/TheMightyThor\'\' and the [[Film/{{Thor}} two]] [[Film/ThorTheDarkWorld film adaptations]], she\'s a tough LadyOfWar and even said to be a War Goddess. She\'s even referred to by [[TheNicknamer the SHIELD agent who sees the companions walking into town]] as \"Xena\".
** The {{valkyrie}}s as a whole, while not incapable of fighting, were {{grim reaper}}s in the original mythology. Nowadays they\'re inevitably portrayed as an {{Amazon brigade}}.

^ The first bullet is valid enough, but separate entries need to be written for the ComicBook and Film adaptations of the character. The second bullet point is a clear case of ExamplesAreNotGeneral. What \'\'specific works\'\' portray the valkyries as an AmazonBrigade?

* When Creator/LewisCarroll\'s heroine from \'\'Literature/AlicesAdventuresInWonderland\'\' is portrayed as [[SheIsAllGrownUp a teenager or adult]] in a work of modern fiction, she is bound to be both this \'\'and\'\' HotterAndSexier.

^ Again, what \'\'specific works\'\' are we talking about here? There are already individual entries for Tim Burton\'s 2010 film, Once Upon a Time and American McGee\'s Alice. Are there others that should be listed? If so, list them.

* In recent years, more ActionGirl-style portrayals of SnowWhite have come to the fore. \'\'Sword and Sorceress XXVII\'\'\'s introduction contrasted Snow White\'s portrayal in the Grimm and Disney versions with that of modern versions like \'\'Film/SnowWhiteAndTheHuntsman\'\', \'\'Film/MirrorMirror\'\', and \'\'Series/OnceUponATime\'\'. Anthology editor Elizabeth Waters says:
--> I suspect that most modern viewers find it easier to identify with a Snow White who fights back. Spending years asleep in a glass coffin waiting to be awakend by \"TrueLovesKiss\" is hopefully not something that girls today aspire to. We can fight for what we want, and we have a good chance of getting it.

^ There are already individual entries for Snow White and the Huntsman, Mirror Mirror, and Once Upon a Time, so that much is redundant. I don\'t know what Sword and Sorceress XXVII is, but if it\'s a valid example, give it its own entry in the proper folder.
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Regarding the \"Multiple Media\" folder, examples should go under the proper folder for the work in which the Xenafication actually takes place, meaning that those examples that are valid need to be recategorized. As written, though, a lot of these entries are bad. Let\'s go through them one-by-one:

* Maid Marian from the \'\'Myth/RobinHood\'\' legends is an odd case. She was an ActionGirl in some of her original appearances (fighting Robin to a standstill while disguised as a boy in one ballad). [[{{Bowdlerise}} Victorian writers]] [[{{Chickification}} turned her into]] TheChick. Modern writers tend to make her the ActionGirl again:
* Franchise/{{Superman}}\'s ComicBook/LoisLane. In the early comics, Lois is pretty capable of taking care of herself, thanks to the wits that came with her IntrepidReporter lifestyle. She didn\'t become a stock DamselInDistress until the Silver Age. Later adaptations have increasingly toughened her back up again:

^ If she was originally an ActionGirl, then making her an ActionGirl isn\'t Xenafication; it\'s the works in which she\'s \'\'not\'\' an ActionGirl that are engaging in {{Chickification}}.

* Marian, the ladyfriend of the Lee brothers from the \'\'VideoGame/DoubleDragon\'\' video games who gets sucker-punched and carried off in the original arcade game, became a policewoman in the comic and animated adaptation of the series and a female gang leader (who just happens to be the daughter of a policeman) in the [[Film/DoubleDragon movie]]. The UsefulNotes/NeoGeo fighting game version influenced by the film followed suit and made her into one of the playable fighters in the game who can stand on her own against the likes of Abobo, Burnov and even the Lee Brothers themselves.

^ These all look like valid examples, but they should be written up separately and categorized under the ComicBook, WesternAnimation or Anime, and VideoGame folders respectively.

* The creator of the MagicalGirl genre in its initial form took inspiration from \'\'Series/{{Bewitched}},\'\' and the result was SliceOfLife with a dose of magic (and the need to [[TheMasquerade not let people know the magic hijinks are indeed magic]]). Pretty much the entire \'\'genre\'\' got Xenafied by \'\'Manga/SailorMoon\'\' and the MagicalGirlWarrior subgenre it inspired, which today is what most people think of when they hear the phrase \"Magical Girl\". Later series such as \'\'Anime/PrettyCure\'\' and \'\'Franchise/LyricalNanoha\'\' pumped up the action elements even further.

^ NotAnExample. \"Genres\" can\'t be Xenafied, only characters.

* In Myth/NorseMythology, Sif is Thor\'s quiet wife, known mainly for her beauty. In \'\'ComicBook/TheMightyThor\'\' and the [[Film/{{Thor}} two]] [[Film/ThorTheDarkWorld film adaptations]], she\'s a tough LadyOfWar and even said to be a War Goddess. She\'s even referred to by [[TheNicknamer the SHIELD agent who sees the companions walking into town]] as \"Xena\".
** The {{valkyrie}}s as a whole, while not incapable of fighting, were {{grim reaper}}s in the original mythology. Nowadays they\'re inevitably portrayed as an {{Amazon brigade}}.

^ The first bullet is valid enough, but separate entries need to be written for the ComicBook and Film adaptations of the character. The second bullet point is a clear case of ExamplesAreNotGeneral. What \'\'specific works\'\' portray the valkyries as an AmazonBrigade?

* When Creator/LewisCarroll\'s heroine from \'\'Literature/AlicesAdventuresInWonderland\'\' is portrayed as [[SheIsAllGrownUp a teenager or adult]] in a work of modern fiction, she is bound to be both this \'\'and\'\' HotterAndSexier.

^ Again, what \'\'specific works\'\' are we talking about here? There are already individual entries for Tim Burton\'s 2010 film, Once Upon a Time and American McGee\'s Alice. Are there others that should be listed? If so, list them.

* In recent years, more ActionGirl-style portrayals of SnowWhite have come to the fore. \'\'Sword and Sorceress XXVII\'\'\'s introduction contrasted Snow White\'s portrayal in the Grimm and Disney versions with that of modern versions like \'\'Film/SnowWhiteAndTheHuntsman\'\', \'\'Film/MirrorMirror\'\', and \'\'Series/OnceUponATime\'\'. Anthology editor Elizabeth Waters says:
--> I suspect that most modern viewers find it easier to identify with a Snow White who fights back. Spending years asleep in a glass coffin waiting to be awakend by \"TrueLovesKiss\" is hopefully not something that girls today aspire to. We can fight for what we want, and we have a good chance of getting it.

^ There are already individual entries for Snow White and the Huntsman, Mirror Mirror, and Once Upon a Time, so that much is redundant. I don\'t know what Sword and Sorceress XXVII is, but if it\'s a valid example, give it its own entry in the proper folder.
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