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[004] SteakAddictsAnonymous

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Also, if we are keeping familial or platonic examples, can someone clarify the main description with what this trope looks like for family/platonic? The example given with Alice and Bob only describes it for romantic. For me, it is completely unclear from the description what this trope is about when people throw in family-platonic stuff, my first instinct is 'hey, shouldn't that be under Dad issue trope #3, parental abandonment, etc etc.' Any clarification would be helpful here. Yeah, rereading description, we absolutely need to add a [In platonic or familial cases, bleh is what happens/same thing with Alice/bob but bleh happens] because it is not clear what with these examples.

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Also, if we are keeping familial or platonic examples, can someone clarify the main description with what this trope looks like for family/platonic? The example given with Alice and Bob only describes it for romantic. For me, it is completely unclear from the description what this trope is about when people throw in family-platonic stuff, my first instinct is \'hey, shouldn\'t that be under Dad issue trope #3, parental abandonment, etc etc.\' I know there is a little quick explanation about the familial/platonic thing, but it is not clear why it doesn\'t just fall under the cited welldonesonguy tropes ETC. If there could be a little more on that it would be helpful especially since all the nattering about fanfic distracts from it. (I missed it reading the first time around, the second time, I read it but it still did not clarify anything or why this even should be a separate trope for familial/platonic stuff. Nor does it clarify any kind of platonic love.) Also, it\'s far away from the alice/bob example, and I know I\'m repeating but by the time you read about the \'bleh happens in fanfic a lot\' you\'ve completely forgotten about alice/bob example and got confused as to \'why is this even a trope\' at the familial platonic side. it *really* feels like familial/platonic martyring should be a separate trope... is this trope just supposed to be unconditional love in an abusive one sided relationship? ...so confused.

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2. Why are we nattering on about bad fanfic in the main description? If the purpose is to critique bad fanfic, I feel like we should make a page for that and keep it out of main description of tropes...
(also, like, why aren't we nattering on about harlequin romance, shoujo, etc if we are going to bring genres and the bad dregs of genres in here). Y'all wanna add a full cross-genre analysis/examples here or just remove it?

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the format should be like

[This is the trope/this is alice/bob example & trope description]
[These are genre of works in which the trope often shows up and how they use it]
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not

[this is the trope]
[this is a genre of works in which the trope often shows up]
[this is the trope too]

I\'ve reread the description several times and nope. I still do *not* understand what this trope is about anymore. Any clarification would be helpful.

2. Why are we nattering on about bad fanfic in the main description around the \'definition of the trope\' part and adding on the rest of the definition as some kind of aside? If the purpose is to critique bad fanfic, I feel like we should make a page for that and keep it out of main description of tropes...
(also, like, why aren\'t we nattering on about harlequin romance, shoujo, etc if we are going to bring genres and the bad dregs of genres in here). Y\'all wanna add a full cross-genre analysis/examples here or just remove it?

[003] SteakAddictsAnonymous

6th Jul '17 at 12:19:42 AM

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1. Do familial examples make sense? There seem to be a lot of parental issue/familial issue tropes that seem to fit the examples better based on the main description. Adding to the confusion, a few years back this trope /only/ described romantic examples.
Also, if we are keeping familial or platonic examples, can someone clarify the main description with what this trope looks like for family/platonic? The example given with Alice and Bob only describes it for romantic. For me, it is completely unclear from the description what this trope is about when people throw in family-platonic stuff, my first instinct is 'hey, shouldn't that be under Dad issue trope #3, parental abandonment, etc etc.' Any clarification would be helpful here. Yeah, rereading description, we absolutely need to add a [In platonic or familial cases, bleh is what happens/same thing with Alice/bob but bleh happens] because it is not clear what with these examples.

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1. Do familial/platonic examples make sense? There seem to be a lot of parental issue/familial issue tropes that seem to fit the examples better based on the main description. Adding to the confusion, a few years back this trope /only/ described romantic examples.
Also, if we are keeping familial or platonic examples, can someone clarify the main description with what this trope looks like for family/platonic? The example given with Alice and Bob only describes it for romantic. For me, it is completely unclear from the description what this trope is about when people throw in family-platonic stuff, my first instinct is \'hey, shouldn\'t that be under Dad issue trope #3, parental abandonment, etc etc.\' Any clarification would be helpful here. Yeah, rereading description, we absolutely need to add a [In platonic or familial cases, bleh is what happens/same thing with Alice/bob but bleh happens] because it is not clear what with these examples.

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(also, like, why aren't we nattering on about harlequin romance, shoujo, etc if we are going to bring genres and the bad dregs of genres in here). Y'all wanna add a full cross-genre analysis/examples here or just remove it?

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(also, like, why aren\'t we nattering on about harlequin romance, shoujo, etc if we are going to bring genres and the bad dregs of genres in here). Y\'all wanna add a full cross-genre analysis/examples here or just remove it?

[002] SteakAddictsAnonymous

6th Jul '17 at 12:19:13 AM

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Also, if we are keeping familial or platonic examples, can someone clarify the main description with what this trope looks like for family/platonic? The example given with Alice and Bob only describes it for romantic. For me, it is completely unclear from the description what this trope is about when people throw in family-platonic stuff, my first instinct is 'hey, shouldn't that be under Dad issue trope #3, parental abandonment, etc etc.' Any clarification would be helpful here. Yeah, rereading description, we absolutely need to add a [In platonic or familial cases, bleh is what happens/same thing with Alice/bob but bleh happens] because it is confusing.

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Also, if we are keeping familial or platonic examples, can someone clarify the main description with what this trope looks like for family/platonic? The example given with Alice and Bob only describes it for romantic. For me, it is completely unclear from the description what this trope is about when people throw in family-platonic stuff, my first instinct is \'hey, shouldn\'t that be under Dad issue trope #3, parental abandonment, etc etc.\' Any clarification would be helpful here. Yeah, rereading description, we absolutely need to add a [In platonic or familial cases, bleh is what happens/same thing with Alice/bob but bleh happens] because it is not clear what with these examples.

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(also, like, why aren't we nattering on about harlequin romance, shoujo, etc if we are going to bring genres and the bad dregs of genres in here). Y'all wanna add a full cross-genre analysis/examples here or just remove it?

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(also, like, why aren\'t we nattering on about harlequin romance, shoujo, etc if we are going to bring genres and the bad dregs of genres in here). Y\'all wanna add a full cross-genre analysis/examples here or just remove it?

[001] SteakAddictsAnonymous

6th Jul '17 at 12:18:53 AM

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Also, if we are keeping familial or platonic examples, can someone clarify the main description with what this trope looks like for family/platonic? The example given with Alice and Bob only describes it for romantic. For me, it is completely unclear from the description what this trope is about when people throw in family-platonic stuff, my first instinct is 'hey, shouldn't that be under Dad issue trope #3, parental abandonment, etc etc.' Any clarification would be helpful here.

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Also, if we are keeping familial or platonic examples, can someone clarify the main description with what this trope looks like for family/platonic? The example given with Alice and Bob only describes it for romantic. For me, it is completely unclear from the description what this trope is about when people throw in family-platonic stuff, my first instinct is \'hey, shouldn\'t that be under Dad issue trope #3, parental abandonment, etc etc.\' Any clarification would be helpful here. Yeah, rereading description, we absolutely need to add a [In platonic or familial cases, bleh is what happens/same thing with Alice/bob but bleh happens] because it is confusing.

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(also, like, why aren't we nattering on about harlequin romance, shoujo, etc if we are going to bring genres and the bad dregs of genres in here). Y'all wanna add a full cross-genre analysis/examples here or just remove it?

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(also, like, why aren\'t we nattering on about harlequin romance, shoujo, etc if we are going to bring genres and the bad dregs of genres in here). Y\'all wanna add a full cross-genre analysis/examples here or just remove it?

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