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Oh, and I finally found a good summation of why the Fire Nation is inherently guilty - all of them - especially in Vathara's Embers-verse; it's from Film/MadMaxFuryRoad.
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Oh, and I finally found a good summation of why the Fire Nation is inherently guilty - all of them - especially in Vathara\'s Embers-verse; it\'s from Film/MadMaxFuryRoad.
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As MovieBob's review( moviebob.blogspot.com/2015/05/review-mad-max-fury-road-2015.html ) says;
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As MovieBob\'s review( moviebob.blogspot.com/2015/05/review-mad-max-fury-road-2015.html ) says; \"...it’s stern father-figure patriarchs like Immorten Joe that got the world into this mess while Furiosa’s Amazon naturalists represent hope and progress.\"
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->Nux: He is the one who grabbed the sun!
->Toast: Look how slick he’s fooled you, War Boy.
->Capable: He’s a lying old man.
->Nux: By his hand, we’ll be lifted up!
->Splendid: That’s why we have his logo seared on our backs! “Breeding stock!” “Battle fodder!”
->Nux: No, I am awaited!
->Capable: You’re an old man’s battle fodder! Killing everyone and everything!
->Nux: We’re not to blame!
->Splendid: Then who killed the world?
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Nux was raised in Immortan Joe\'s warrior cult, and would have been an infant at most and probably not born yet when the world came to an end, so you might say it comes across as a rather inane and senseless accusation. You\'d be wrong. Nux may not have been one of the mindless cannon fodder that burned the world, and Immortan Joe may not have been one of the generals who ordered the world burned, but how is he and Joe any different from those who did?

Throughout Embers, people repeatedly accused Zuko-Sue of the evil the Fire Nation does, and he repeatedly states, \"I didn\'t do this.\" \"I\'m not to blame.\"

They know Zuko-Sue didn\'t do it. They\'re asking if he approves, if he\'d do it if he had been the one in power.

And I never see any evidence that Zuko-Sue wouldn\'t do it.

After getting seven colors of shit kicked out of him - and recognizing that Ozai is going to get lots and lots of Fire Nationals killed - Zuko-Sue finally admits that Ozai is a brutal son-of-a-bitch who he shouldn\'t be taking orders from. But he never says it out loud to anyone he\'s hurt, and his solution is to become a \"Great Name\" himself, with battle fodder of his very own.

Zuko-Sue condemns Ozai - but not the system that Ozai champions; of rulers and ruled, conquerors and conquered, predators and prey. Zuko-Sue says that Ozai is a bad tyrant, but he NEVER says that tyranny is bad. Zuko-Sue condemns Yon Rha as an incompetent killer, but he refuses to condemn institutionalized killing. He says that Ozai does bad things. He never says he won\'t do bad things himself - in fact, he\'s actually saying that Ozai does good things in a bad way.

So, who killed the world, Zuko-Sue?
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Oh, and I finally found a good summation of why the Fire Nation is inherently guilty - all of them - especially in Vathara's Embers-verse; it's from Film/MadMaxFuryRoad.
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Oh, and I finally found a good summation of why the Fire Nation is inherently guilty - all of them - especially in Vathara\'s Embers-verse; it\'s from Film/MadMaxFuryRoad.
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As MovieBob's review( moviebob.blogspot.com/2015/05/review-mad-max-fury-road-2015.html ) says;
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As MovieBob\'s review( moviebob.blogspot.com/2015/05/review-mad-max-fury-road-2015.html ) says; \"...it’s stern father-figure patriarchs like Immorten Joe that got the world into this mess while Furiosa’s Amazon naturalists represent hope and progress.\"
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->Nux: He is the one who grabbed the sun!
->Toast: Look how slick he’s fooled you, War Boy.
->Capable: He’s a lying old man.
->Nux: By his hand, we’ll be lifted up!
->Splendid: That’s why we have his logo seared on our backs! “Breeding stock!” “Battle fodder!”
->Nux: No, I am awaited!
->Capable: You’re an old man’s battle fodder! Killing everyone and everything!
->Nux: We’re not to blame!
->Splendid: Then who killed the world?
----
Nux was raised in Immortan Joe\'s warrior cult, and would have been an infant at most and probably not born yet when the world came to an end, so you might say it comes across as a rather inane and senseless accusation. You\'d be wrong. Nux may not have been one of the mindless cannon fodder that burned the world, and Immortan Joe may not have been one of the generals who ordered the world burned, but how is he and Joe any different from those who did?

Throughout Embers, people repeatedly accused Zuko-Sue of the evil the Fire Nation does, and he repeatedly states, \"I didn\'t do this.\" \"I\'m not to blame.\"

They know Zuko-Sue didn\'t do it. They\'re asking if he approves, if he\'d do it if he had been the one in power.

And I never see any evidence that Zuko-Sue wouldn\'t do it.

After getting seven colors of shit kicked out of him - and recognizing that Ozai is going to get lots and lots of Fire Nationals killed - Zuko-Sue finally admits that Ozai is a brutal son-of-a-bitch who he shouldn\'t be taking orders from. But he never says it out loud to anyone he\'s hurt, and his solution is to become a \"Great Name\" himself, with battle fodder of his very own.

Zuko-Sue condemns Ozai - but not the system that Ozai champions; of rulers and ruled, conquerors and conquered, predators and prey. Zuko-Sue says that Ozai is a bad tyrant, but he NEVER says that tyranny is bad. Zuko-sue condemns Yon Rha as an incompetent killer, but he refuses to condemn institutionalized killing. He says that Ozai does bad things. He never says he won\'t do bad things himself - in fact, he\'s actually saying that Ozai does good things in a bad way.

So, who killed the world, Zuko-Sue?
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Oh, and I finally found a good summation of why the Fire Nation is inherently guilty - all of them - especially in Vathara's Embers-verse; it's from Film/MadMaxFuryRoad.
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Oh, and I finally found a good summation of why the Fire Nation is inherently guilty - all of them - especially in Vathara\'s Embers-verse; it\'s from Film/MadMaxFuryRoad.
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As MovieBob's review( moviebob.blogspot.com/2015/05/review-mad-max-fury-road-2015.html ) says;
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As MovieBob\'s review( moviebob.blogspot.com/2015/05/review-mad-max-fury-road-2015.html ) says; \"...it’s stern father-figure patriarchs like Immorten Joe that got the world into this mess while Furiosa’s Amazon naturalists represent hope and progress.\"
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->Nux: He is the one who grabbed the sun!\\\\
Toast: Look how slick he’s fooled you, War Boy.\\\\
Capable: He’s a lying old man.\\\\
Nux: By his hand, we’ll be lifted up!\\\\
Splendid: That’s why we have his logo seared on our backs! “Breeding stock!” “Battle fodder!”\\\\
Nux: No, I am awaited!\\\\
Capable: You’re an old man’s battle fodder! Killing everyone and everything!\\\\
Nux: We’re not to blame!\\\\
Splendid: Then who killed the world?
----
Nux was raised in Immortan Joe\'s warrior cult, and would have been an infant at most and probably not born yet when the world came to an end, so you might say it comes across as a rather inane and senseless accusation. You\'d be wrong. Nux may not have been one of the mindless cannon fodder that burned the world, and Immortan Joe may not have been one of the generals who ordered the world burned, but how is he and Joe any different from those who did?

Throughout Embers, people repeatedly accused Zuko-Sue of the evil the Fire Nation does, and he repeatedly states, \"I didn\'t do this.\" \"I\'m not to blame.\"

They know Zuko-Sue didn\'t do it. They\'re asking if he approves, if he\'d do it if he had been the one in power.

And I never see any evidence that Zuko-Sue wouldn\'t do it.

After getting seven colors of shit kicked out of him - and recognizing that Ozai is going to get lots and lots of Fire Nationals killed - Zuko-Sue finally admits that Ozai is a brutal son-of-a-bitch who he shouldn\'t be taking orders from. But he never says it out loud to anyone he\'s hurt, and his solution is to become a \"Great Name\" himself, with battle fodder of his very own.

Zuko-Sue condemns Ozai - but not the system that Ozai champions; of rulers and ruled, conquerors and conquered, predators and prey. Zuko-Sue says that Ozai is a bad tyrant, but he NEVER says that tyranny is bad. Zuko-sue condemns Yon Rha as an incompetent killer, but he refuses to condemn institutionalized killing. He says that Ozai does bad things. He never says he won\'t do bad things himself - in fact, he\'s actually saying that Ozai does good things in a bad way.

So, who killed the world, Zuko-Sue?
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Oh, and I finally found a good summation of why the Fire Nation is inherently guilty - all of them - especially in Vathara's Embers-verse; it's from Film/MadMaxFuryRoad.
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Oh, and I finally found a good summation of why the Fire Nation is inherently guilty - all of them - especially in Vathara\'s Embers-verse; it\'s from Film/MadMaxFuryRoad.
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As MovieBob's review( moviebob.blogspot.com/2015/05/review-mad-max-fury-road-2015.html ) says;
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As MovieBob\'s review( moviebob.blogspot.com/2015/05/review-mad-max-fury-road-2015.html ) says; \"...it’s stern father-figure patriarchs like Immorten Joe that got the world into this mess while Furiosa’s Amazon naturalists represent hope and progress.\"
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->Nux: He is the one who grabbed the sun!\\\\
Toast: Look how slick he’s fooled you, War Boy.\\\\
Capable: He’s a lying old man.\\\\
Nux: By his hand, we’ll be lifted up!\\\\
Splendid: That’s why we have his logo seared on our backs! “Breeding stock!” “Battle fodder!”\\\\
Nux: No, I am awaited!\\\\
Capable: You’re an old man’s battle fodder! Killing everyone and everything!\\\\
Nux: We’re not to blame!\\\\
Splendid: Then who killed the world?
----
Nux was raised in Immortan Joe\'s warrior cult, and would have been an infant at most and probably not born yet when the world came to an end, so you might say it comes across as a rather inane and senseless accusation. You\'d be wrong. Nux may not have been one of the mindless cannon fodder that burned the world, and Immortan Joe may not have been one of the generals who ordered the world burned, but how is he and Joe any different from those who did?

Throughout Embers, people repeatedly accused Zuko-Sue of the evil the Fire Nation does, and he repeatedly states, \"I didn\'t do this.\" \"I\'m not to blame.\"

They know Zuko-Sue didn\'t do it. They\'re asking if he approves, if he\'d do it if he had been the one in power.

And I never see any evidence that Zuko-Sue wouldn\'t do it.

After getting seven colors of shit kicked out of him - and recognizing that Ozai is going to get lots and lots of Fire Nationals killed - Zuko-Sue finally admits that Ozai is a brutal son-of-a-bitch who he shouldn\'t be taking orders from. But he never says it out loud to anyone he\'s hurt, and his solution is to become a \"Great Name\" himself, with battle fodder of his very own.

Zuko-Sue condemns Ozai - but not the system that Ozai champions; of rulers and ruled, conquerors and conquered, predators and prey. Zuko-Sue says that Ozai is a bad tyrant, but he NEVER says that tyranny is bad. Zuko-sue condemns Yon Rha as an incompetent killer, but he refuses to condemn institutionalized killing. He says that Ozai does bad things. He never says he won\'t do bad things himself - in fact, he\'s actually saying that Ozai does good things in a bad way.

So, who killed the world, Zuko-Sue?
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Oh, and I finally found a good summation of why the Fire Nation is inherently guilty - all of them - especially in Vathara's Embers-verse; it's from Film/MadMaxFuryRoad.
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Oh, and I finally found a good summation of why the Fire Nation is inherently guilty - all of them - especially in Vathara\'s Embers-verse; it\'s from Film/MadMaxFuryRoad.
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As MovieBob's [[moviebob.blogspot.com/2015/05/review-mad-max-fury-road-2015.html review]] says;
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As MovieBob\'s review( moviebob.blogspot.com/2015/05/review-mad-max-fury-road-2015.html ) says; \"...it’s stern father-figure patriarchs like Immorten Joe that got the world into this mess while Furiosa’s Amazon naturalists represent hope and progress.\"
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Nux: He is the one who grabbed the sun!
Toast: Look how slick he’s fooled you, War Boy.
Capable: He’s a lying old man.
Nux: By his hand, we’ll be lifted up!
Splendid: That’s why we have his logo seared on our backs! “Breeding stock!” “Battle fodder!”
Nux: No, I am awaited!
Capable: You’re an old man’s battle fodder! Killing everyone and everything!
Nux: We’re not to blame!
Splendid: Then who killed the world?
----
Nux was raised in Immortan Joe\'s warrior cult, and would have been an infant at most and probably not born yet when the world came to an end, so you might say it comes across as a rather inane and senseless accusation. You\'d be wrong. Nux may not have been one of the mindless cannon fodder that burned the world, and Immortan Joe may not have been one of the generals who ordered the world burned, but how is he and Joe any different from those who did?

Throughout Embers, people repeatedly accused Zuko-Sue of the evil the Fire Nation does, and he repeatedly states, \"I didn\'t do this.\" \"I\'m not to blame.\"

They know Zuko-Sue didn\'t do it. They\'re asking if he approves, if he\'d do it if he had been the one in power.

And I never see any evidence that Zuko-Sue wouldn\'t do it.

After getting seven colors of shit kicked out of him - and recognizing that Ozai is going to get lots and lots of Fire Nationals killed - Zuko-Sue finally admits that Ozai is a brutal son-of-a-bitch who he shouldn\'t be taking orders from. But he never says it out loud to anyone he\'s hurt, and his solution is to become a \"Great Name\" himself, with battle fodder of his very own.

Zuko-Sue condemns Ozai - but not the system that Ozai champions; of rulers and ruled, conquerors and conquered, predators and prey. Zuko-Sue says that Ozai is a bad tyrant, but he NEVER says that tyranny is bad. Zuko-sue condemns Yon Rha as an incompetent killer, but he refuses to condemn institutionalized killing. He says that Ozai does bad things. He never says he won\'t do bad things himself - in fact, he\'s actually saying that Ozai does good things in a bad way.

So, who killed the world, Zuko-Sue?
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Oh, and I finally found a good summation of why the Fire Nation is inherently guilty - all of them - especially in Vathara's Embers-verse; it's from Film/MadMaxFuryRoad.
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Oh, and I finally found a good summation of why the Fire Nation is inherently guilty - all of them - especially in Vathara\'s Embers-verse; it\'s from Film/MadMaxFuryRoad.
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As MovieBob's [[http:moviebob.blogspot.com/2015/05/review-mad-max-fury-road-2015.html review]] says;
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As MovieBob\'s [[moviebob.blogspot.com/2015/05/review-mad-max-fury-road-2015.html review]] says; \"...it’s stern father-figure patriarchs like Immorten Joe that got the world into this mess while Furiosa’s Amazon naturalists represent hope and progress.\"
----
Nux: He is the one who grabbed the sun!
Toast: Look how slick he’s fooled you, War Boy.
Capable: He’s a lying old man.
Nux: By his hand, we’ll be lifted up!
Splendid: That’s why we have his logo seared on our backs! “Breeding stock!” “Battle fodder!”
Nux: No, I am awaited!
Capable: You’re an old man’s battle fodder! Killing everyone and everything!
Nux: We’re not to blame!
Splendid: Then who killed the world?
----
Nux was raised in Immortan Joe\'s warrior cult, and would have been an infant at most and probably not born yet when the world came to an end, so you might say it comes across as a rather inane and senseless accusation. You\'d be wrong. Nux may not have been one of the mindless cannon fodder that burned the world, and Immortan Joe may not have been one of the generals who ordered the world burned, but how is he and Joe any different from those who did?

Throughout Embers, people repeatedly accused Zuko-Sue of the evil the Fire Nation does, and he repeatedly states, \"I didn\'t do this.\" \"I\'m not to blame.\"

They know Zuko-Sue didn\'t do it. They\'re asking if he approves, if he\'d do it if he had been the one in power.

And I never see any evidence that Zuko-Sue wouldn\'t do it.

After getting seven colors of shit kicked out of him - and recognizing that Ozai is going to get lots and lots of Fire Nationals killed - Zuko-Sue finally admits that Ozai is a brutal son-of-a-bitch who he shouldn\'t be taking orders from. But he never says it out loud to anyone he\'s hurt, and his solution is to become a \"Great Name\" himself, with battle fodder of his very own.

Zuko-Sue condemns Ozai - but not the system that Ozai champions; of rulers and ruled, conquerors and conquered, predators and prey. Zuko-Sue says that Ozai is a bad tyrant, but he NEVER says that tyranny is bad. Zuko-sue condemns Yon Rha as an incompetent killer, but he refuses to condemn institutionalized killing. He says that Ozai does bad things. He never says he won\'t do bad things himself - in fact, he\'s actually saying that Ozai does good things in a bad way.

So, who killed the world, Zuko-Sue?
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Oh, and I finally found a good summation of why the Fire Nation is inherently guilty - all of them - especially in Vathara's Embers-verse; it's from Film/MadMaxFuryRoad.
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Oh, and I finally found a good summation of why the Fire Nation is inherently guilty - all of them - especially in Vathara\'s Embers-verse; it\'s from Film/MadMaxFuryRoad.
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As MovieBob's [[moviebob.blogspot.com/2015/05/review-mad-max-fury-road-2015.html review]] says;
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As MovieBob\'s [[http:moviebob.blogspot.com/2015/05/review-mad-max-fury-road-2015.html review]] says; \"...it’s stern father-figure patriarchs like Immorten Joe that got the world into this mess while Furiosa’s Amazon naturalists represent hope and progress.\"
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Nux: He is the one who grabbed the sun!
Toast: Look how slick he’s fooled you, War Boy.
Capable: He’s a lying old man.
Nux: By his hand, we’ll be lifted up!
Splendid: That’s why we have his logo seared on our backs! “Breeding stock!” “Battle fodder!”
Nux: No, I am awaited!
Capable: You’re an old man’s battle fodder! Killing everyone and everything!
Nux: We’re not to blame!
Splendid: Then who killed the world?
----
Nux was raised in Immortan Joe\'s warrior cult, and would have been an infant at most and probably not born yet when the world came to an end, so you might say it comes across as a rather inane and senseless accusation. You\'d be wrong. Nux may not have been one of the mindless cannon fodder that burned the world, and Immortan Joe may not have been one of the generals who ordered the world burned, but how is he and Joe any different from those who did?

Throughout Embers, people repeatedly accused Zuko-Sue of the evil the Fire Nation does, and he repeatedly states, \"I didn\'t do this.\" \"I\'m not to blame.\"

They know Zuko-Sue didn\'t do it. They\'re asking if he approves, if he\'d do it if he had been the one in power.

And I never see any evidence that Zuko-Sue wouldn\'t do it.

After getting seven colors of shit kicked out of him - and recognizing that Ozai is going to get lots and lots of Fire Nationals killed - Zuko-Sue finally admits that Ozai is a brutal son-of-a-bitch who he shouldn\'t be taking orders from. But he never says it out loud to anyone he\'s hurt, and his solution is to become a \"Great Name\" himself, with battle fodder of his very own.

Zuko-Sue condemns Ozai - but not the system that Ozai champions; of rulers and ruled, conquerors and conquered, predators and prey. Zuko-Sue says that Ozai is a bad tyrant, but he NEVER says that tyranny is bad. Zuko-sue condemns Yon Rha as an incompetent killer, but he refuses to condemn institutionalized killing. He says that Ozai does bad things. He never says he won\'t do bad things himself - in fact, he\'s actually saying that Ozai does good things in a bad way.

So, who killed the world, Zuko-Sue?
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