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* HumansAreSpecial: [[spoiler:When spirits want to wipe out humanity, do they pick a fight with us? No, they try to trick us into destroying ''ourselves,'' slowly destroying our capability to fight them and turning the strengths of the various nations into weaknesses.]] The fact that humanity can and ''should'' stop relying on the Avatar to solve all its problems and regain its own strength and agency is a theme in the fic, culminating in a [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming CMOH]] when Sokka tells Aang that he doesn't believe in the Avatar's ability to save the world, but that of Aang himself: the person, not the powerful spirit.

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* HumansAreSpecial: [[spoiler:When spirits want to wipe out humanity, do they pick a fight with us? No, they try to trick us into destroying ''ourselves,'' slowly destroying our capability to fight them and turning the strengths of the various nations into weaknesses.]] The fact that humanity can and ''should'' stop relying on the Avatar to solve all its problems and regain its own strength and agency is a theme in the fic, culminating in a [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming CMOH]] when Sokka tells Aang that he doesn't believe in the Avatar's ability to save the world, but that of Aang himself: the person, not the powerful spirit.



** WordOfGod too is that Aang ''should'' get to ''stay'' true to his pacifistic ideals, and solve things without violence. [[spoiler:He does and it is a CrowningMomentOfAwesome.]] It's not exactly an IdiotBall when [[TheWoobie Aang]] is surrounded by people who think he means 'stop' as in 'kill' the Fire Lord, and is learning that [[spoiler: the Air Nomads were not exactly what he was raised to think they were]].

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** WordOfGod too is that Aang ''should'' get to ''stay'' true to his pacifistic ideals, and solve things without violence. [[spoiler:He does and it is a CrowningMomentOfAwesome.does.]] It's not exactly an IdiotBall when [[TheWoobie Aang]] is surrounded by people who think he means 'stop' as in 'kill' the Fire Lord, and is learning that [[spoiler: the Air Nomads were not exactly what he was raised to think they were]].



* ShockAndAwe: Iroh [[spoiler:comes out of retirement by [[PapaWolf smiting]] a certain Earth Kingdom general]], an event that was both [[IncrediblyLamePun shocking]] and [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome awesome]] to those who weren't familiar with his history. [[PsychoElectro Azula]] is the modern fiction version of a lightning wielder, but in earlier works it was a [[VideoGame/ChronoTrigger heroic or divine element]]. Given some of the foreshadowing (the mind and airbenders), it will likely come up again, especially since the fic makes liberal use of ChekhovsArmory.

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* ShockAndAwe: Iroh [[spoiler:comes out of retirement by [[PapaWolf smiting]] a certain Earth Kingdom general]], an event that was both [[IncrediblyLamePun shocking]] and [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome awesome]] to those who weren't familiar with his history. [[PsychoElectro Azula]] is the modern fiction version of a lightning wielder, but in earlier works it was a [[VideoGame/ChronoTrigger heroic or divine element]]. Given some of the foreshadowing (the mind and airbenders), it will likely come up again, especially since the fic makes liberal use of ChekhovsArmory.


* DeadManSwitch: The real reason Clan Byakko hasn't been wiped out. In the same way Kuei's family protects Ba Sing Se from spirits just by existing, Mt. Shirotora, aka the White Tiger, [[spoiler:is the Avatar universe's equivalent of Mt. Krakatoa. While the mountain spirit is implied to be fond of Clan Byakko, who treat it with respect, it would take more than forty fire sages to forcibly subdue it... until they slipped, and they didn't just have a supervolcano eruption on their hands, but an ''angry'' supervolcano.]]

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* DeadManSwitch: DeadMansSwitch: The real reason Clan Byakko hasn't been wiped out. In the same way Kuei's family protects Ba Sing Se from spirits just by existing, Mt. Shirotora, aka the White Tiger, [[spoiler:is the Avatar universe's equivalent of Mt. Krakatoa. While the mountain spirit is implied to be fond of Clan Byakko, who treat it with respect, it would take more than forty fire sages to forcibly subdue it... until they slipped, and they didn't just have a supervolcano eruption on their hands, but an ''angry'' supervolcano.]]


''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5398503/1/Embers Embers]]'' is a popular ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' FanFic by Creator/{{Vathara}} that attempts to deconstruct the standard story of a [[FiveManBand group]] of [[IdiotHero kids]] [[BlackAndWhiteMorality saving]] the world from TheEmpire, with copious amounts of FridgeLogic and FridgeHorror. Moving the WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender universe on the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism (characters had best not try to invoke HeroInsurance, for example), causes the good guys to [[HanlonsRazor seem]] less good and the bad guys to range from AntiHero to pure evil. It also explores things that the TV show had to gloss over for kids, like [[ChildByRape the horrors of war]], [[EldritchAbomination dangerous]] spirits and [[MindRape Azula]].

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''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5398503/1/Embers Embers]]'' is a popular ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' FanFic by Creator/{{Vathara}} that attempts to deconstruct the standard story of a [[FiveManBand group]] of [[IdiotHero kids]] [[BlackAndWhiteMorality saving]] the world from TheEmpire, with copious amounts of FridgeLogic and FridgeHorror. Moving the WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender ''Avatar'' universe on the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism (characters had best not try to invoke HeroInsurance, for example), causes the good guys to [[HanlonsRazor seem]] less good and the bad guys to range from AntiHero to pure evil. It also explores things that the TV show had to gloss over for kids, like [[ChildByRape the horrors of war]], [[EldritchAbomination dangerous]] spirits and [[MindRape Azula]].


* BerserkButton: Lying, for Zuko [[spoiler:and dragons/dragon-descended firebenders in general. Given that dragons communicate with emotions and pictures, (canon examples include Fang touching Aang with a whisker to give him visions, as well as Ran and Shao's rainbow fire), not words, most likely only psychopathic 'dark' dragons would be able to manage it, and]] Azula lies as easily as she breathes, without feeling any emotions about it as far as Toph can tell. If the ability to lie meant someone was evil in some species, it'd start ringing instinctive alarm bells very, very quickly.

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* BerserkButton: Lying, BerserkButton:
**Lying,
for Zuko [[spoiler:and [[spoiler: and dragons/dragon-descended firebenders in general. Given that dragons communicate with emotions and pictures, (canon examples include Fang touching Aang with a whisker to give him visions, as well as Ran and Shao's rainbow fire), not words, most likely only psychopathic 'dark' dragons would be able to manage it, and]] Azula lies as easily as she breathes, without feeling any emotions about it as far as Toph can tell. If the ability to lie meant someone was evil in some species, it'd start ringing instinctive alarm bells very, very quickly.quickly.
**Being told to give up his katana is one for Langxue. It belonged to his dead mother and in Kyoshi island, it is considered a woman's weapon, anyone that told him to give it up ended on the receiving end of a teenage waterbender's ire. Aang also tells Langxue to give up his sword because as an airbender he can't use weapons. It ticks of Langxue, who up to that point had been trying to convince Zuko to give Aang another chance. After that little discussion Langxue fully agrees with Zuko that Aang is an idiot and a brat and angrily tells Iroh that he will not be teaching Aang anything. This might be compounded by the fact that Langxue was once a water-fire yaoren as Hyourin and to a child of fire it would be unthinkable not to take up a weapon.


** ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': "I am Temul of Shu Jing. I am the blood of dragons."

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** ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': "I am Temul of Shu Jing. I am the blood of dragons."" "Byakko remembers."


Please refrain from {{Justifying Edit}}s or TakeThat edits and post on [[FanFic/{{Embers}} the discussion board]] or [[Headscratchers/{{Embers}} the Headscratchers page]]. And, there is a [[Characters/{{Embers}} character tab]], to put place all those [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment characterization and character-specific tropes]].

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Please refrain from {{Justifying Administrivia/{{Justifying Edit}}s or TakeThat edits and post on [[FanFic/{{Embers}} the discussion board]] or [[Headscratchers/{{Embers}} the Headscratchers page]]. And, there is a [[Characters/{{Embers}} character tab]], to put place all those [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment characterization and character-specific tropes]].


* WhiteMansBurden: The plot element that puts Zuko in high gear -- and Vathara is ''in favor of'' -- is that after a century of war and colonization, the Fire Nation has pretty deeply assimilated a great deal of the Earth Kingdom's territory and population by hook or by crook. And that forcing the conquerors to make compensation for what they did would do more harm than good, hence the War must continue and ultimately be won for the sake of civilization. The Fire Prince is ''pissed'' that the Fire Nation could lose what he considers to Fire Nation "property" simply because their grandparents stole land and brides. He frames it as the Avatar "taking away [[FeudalOverlord our]] people", and ''never'' considers that anyone ''wouldn't'' want to be part of the Fire Nation. Even Iroh sees it as "The Fire Nation has taken so much from the world. The balance may require that we give it back. Even if it breaks our hearts." '''Anyone and everyone''' who doesn't believe in the Fire Nation's right to what they see as cosmopolitanism(complete with Firebenders at the top of the social ladder) is painted as outrageously racist(Katara, many Water Tribe warriors and people in Ba Sing Se) if not an out-and-out ''terrorist''(Jet and many Earth Kingdom generals).

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* WhiteMansBurden: The plot element that puts Zuko in high gear -- and Vathara is ''in favor of'' -- is that after a century of war and colonization, the Fire Nation has pretty deeply assimilated a great deal of the Earth Kingdom's territory and population by hook or by crook. And that forcing the conquerors to make compensation for what they did would do more harm than good, hence the War must continue and ultimately be won for the sake of civilization. The Fire Prince is ''pissed'' that the Fire Nation could lose what he considers to Fire Nation "property" simply because their grandparents stole land and brides. He frames it as the Avatar "taking away [[FeudalOverlord our]] people", and ''never'' considers that anyone ''wouldn't'' want to be part of the Fire Nation. Even Iroh sees it as "The Fire Nation has taken so much from the world. The balance may require that we give it back. Even if it breaks our hearts." '''Anyone and everyone''' who doesn't believe in the Fire Nation's right to what they see as cosmopolitanism(complete with Firebenders at the top of the social ladder) is painted portrayed as outrageously racist(Katara, many Water Tribe warriors and people in Ba Sing Se) if not an out-and-out ''terrorist''(Jet ''war criminal''(Jet and many Earth Kingdom generals).

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* WhiteMansBurden: The plot element that puts Zuko in high gear -- and Vathara is ''in favor of'' -- is that after a century of war and colonization, the Fire Nation has pretty deeply assimilated a great deal of the Earth Kingdom's territory and population by hook or by crook. And that forcing the conquerors to make compensation for what they did would do more harm than good, hence the War must continue and ultimately be won for the sake of civilization. The Fire Prince is ''pissed'' that the Fire Nation could lose what he considers to Fire Nation "property" simply because their grandparents stole land and brides. He frames it as the Avatar "taking away [[FeudalOverlord our]] people", and ''never'' considers that anyone ''wouldn't'' want to be part of the Fire Nation. Even Iroh sees it as "The Fire Nation has taken so much from the world. The balance may require that we give it back. Even if it breaks our hearts." '''Anyone and everyone''' who doesn't believe in the Fire Nation's right to what they see as cosmopolitanism(complete with Firebenders at the top of the social ladder) is painted as outrageously racist(Katara, many Water Tribe warriors and people in Ba Sing Se) if not an out-and-out ''terrorist''(Jet and many Earth Kingdom generals).

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*** This one is later explained, as [[spoiler: Kesuk was killed by Asagitatsu- a sacred volcano which explicitly has the power to kill a rampaging Avatar '''without''' destroying the Avatar Cycle.]]


** ASongOfIceAndFire: "I am Temul of Shu Jing. I am the blood of dragons."

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** ASongOfIceAndFire: ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire'': "I am Temul of Shu Jing. I am the blood of dragons."


''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5398503/1/Embers Embers]]'' is a popular ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' FanFic by Creator/{{Vathara}} that attempts to [[Deconstruction deconstruct]] the standard story of a [[FiveManBand group]] of [[IdiotHero kids]] [[BlackAndWhiteMorality saving]] the world from TheEmpire, with copious amounts of FridgeLogic and FridgeHorror. Moving the WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender universe on the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism (characters had best not try to invoke HeroInsurance, for example), causes the good guys to [[HanlonsRazor seem]] less good and the bad guys to range from AntiHero to pure evil. It also explores things that the TV show had to gloss over for kids, like [[ChildByRape the horrors of war]], [[EldritchAbomination dangerous]] spirits and [[MindRape Azula]].

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''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5398503/1/Embers Embers]]'' is a popular ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' FanFic by Creator/{{Vathara}} that attempts to [[Deconstruction deconstruct]] deconstruct the standard story of a [[FiveManBand group]] of [[IdiotHero kids]] [[BlackAndWhiteMorality saving]] the world from TheEmpire, with copious amounts of FridgeLogic and FridgeHorror. Moving the WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender universe on the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism (characters had best not try to invoke HeroInsurance, for example), causes the good guys to [[HanlonsRazor seem]] less good and the bad guys to range from AntiHero to pure evil. It also explores things that the TV show had to gloss over for kids, like [[ChildByRape the horrors of war]], [[EldritchAbomination dangerous]] spirits and [[MindRape Azula]].


''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5398503/1/Embers Embers]]'' is a popular ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' FanFic by Creator/{{Vathara}} that [[HateFic attempts to deconstruct]] the standard story of a [[FiveManBand group]] of [[IdiotHero kids]] [[BlackAndWhiteMorality saving]] the world from TheEmpire, with copious amounts of FridgeLogic and FridgeHorror. Moving the WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender universe on the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism (characters had best not try to invoke HeroInsurance, for example), causes the good guys to [[HanlonsRazor seem]] less good and the bad guys to range from AntiHero to pure evil. It also explores things that the TV show had to gloss over for kids, like [[ChildByRape the horrors of war]], [[EldritchAbomination dangerous]] spirits and [[MindRape Azula]].

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''[[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5398503/1/Embers Embers]]'' is a popular ''WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender'' FanFic by Creator/{{Vathara}} that [[HateFic attempts to [[Deconstruction deconstruct]] the standard story of a [[FiveManBand group]] of [[IdiotHero kids]] [[BlackAndWhiteMorality saving]] the world from TheEmpire, with copious amounts of FridgeLogic and FridgeHorror. Moving the WesternAnimation/AvatarTheLastAirbender universe on the SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism (characters had best not try to invoke HeroInsurance, for example), causes the good guys to [[HanlonsRazor seem]] less good and the bad guys to range from AntiHero to pure evil. It also explores things that the TV show had to gloss over for kids, like [[ChildByRape the horrors of war]], [[EldritchAbomination dangerous]] spirits and [[MindRape Azula]].


Please refrain from {{Justifying Edit}}s or TakeThat edits and post on [[FanFic/{{Embers}} the discussion board]] or [[JustBugsMe/{{Embers}} the It Just Bugs Me page]]. And, there is a [[Characters/{{Embers}} character tab]], to put place all those [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment characterization and character-specific tropes]].

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Please refrain from {{Justifying Edit}}s or TakeThat edits and post on [[FanFic/{{Embers}} the discussion board]] or [[JustBugsMe/{{Embers}} [[Headscratchers/{{Embers}} the It Just Bugs Me Headscratchers page]]. And, there is a [[Characters/{{Embers}} character tab]], to put place all those [[DepartmentOfRedundancyDepartment characterization and character-specific tropes]].


* ButForMeItWasTuesday: Some readers feel the fic isn't spending enough time on the villainous acts of the Fire Nation: characters aren't appropriately horrified by them, or they should be ignoring the Avatar's own actions due to what the Fire Nation did first [[spoiler:or second, or after having been run through the gears of a GambitPileup twice]]. This trope itself appears to be at fault for this the Fire Nation has committed so many invasions, genocides, war crimes and other actions that people might occasionally be shocked by something really audacious (like killing the Moon) but there's not a lot of real surprise: characters are GenreSavvy enough, and everybody knows what happened to the Air Nomads, so when they do something else it's Just Another Tuesday for Sozin's Fire Nation. On the other hand, when a good guy, much less a pacifist, does something as unexpected as [[spoiler:metaphorically bringing a very dirty warhead to a bending fight when he's the Avatar, and thus by definition powerful enough to have no real need to resort to such a thing,]] WhatTheHellHero ensues.

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* ButForMeItWasTuesday: Some readers feel the fic isn't spending enough time on the villainous acts of the Fire Nation: characters aren't appropriately horrified by them, or they should be ignoring the Avatar's own actions due to what the Fire Nation did first [[spoiler:or second, or after having been run through the gears of a GambitPileup twice]]. This trope itself appears to be at fault for this the Fire Nation has committed so many invasions, genocides, war crimes and other actions that people might occasionally be shocked by something really audacious (like killing the Moon) but there's not a lot of real surprise: characters are GenreSavvy enough, and everybody knows what happened to the Air Nomads, so when they do something else it's Just Another Tuesday for Sozin's Fire Nation. On the other hand, when a good guy, much less a pacifist, does something as unexpected as [[spoiler:metaphorically bringing a very dirty warhead to a bending fight when he's the Avatar, and thus by definition powerful enough to have no real need to resort to such a thing,]] WhatTheHellHero ensues.


* LesCollaborateurs: [[spoiler:Ty Lee & the Elders of the non-Byakko Airbenders living in the Fire Nation, aka Azulon's ninja, who killed Kuzon when he rescued some of the air nomad children they'd brainwashed.]]



* LesCollaborateurs: [[spoiler:Ty Lee & the Elders of the non-Byakko Airbenders living in the Fire Nation, aka Azulon's ninja, who killed Kuzon when he rescued some of the air nomad children they'd brainwashed.]]

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