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Nice to see you've gotten off your high horse and are willing to be reasonable (that attempt to rally tropers against me was behavior approaching that of the worst type of SJW, don't do it again). Thank you for elaborating on your reasons for disliking my text. To address your points;
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Nice to see you\'ve gotten off your high horse and are willing to be reasonable (that attempt to rally tropers against me was behavior approaching that of the worst type of SJW, don\'t do it again). Thank you for elaborating on your reasons for disliking my text. To address your points;
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I understand what you\'re saying about \"Vuvalini\" not being Anvilicious and disagree. You agreed with me that it\'s a silly and unsubtle name, which is the reason I listed it as Anivilicious in the first place. I agree with you that it fits under Narm, and you failed to notice that I DID put it under Narm in one of my edits. By the way, my \"vuvla\" quip on the page was just a [[TakeThat tongue-in-cheek poke at the name]], hardly \"juvenile\" if that\'s what you think of it.
My entry in Broken Base was to point out that some people have this view of the film; whether you or anyone else likes it or not this view exists and I was acknowledging that. I did not say that the film\'s misandrist; while I don\'t agree completely with everyone who says it, I reached a similar conclusion (that some elements appear misandrist) for mostly different reasons.
The trope DracoInLeatherPants refers to, and I quote from the trope\'s page on this very wiki, \"...when a fandom takes a controversial or downright villainous character and downplays his/her flaws, often turning him/her into an object of desire and/or a victim in the process...\" The key word I want to point out is \'\'\'controversial\'\'\'. The trope page makes a distinction between controversial and villainous characters, yet says both can qualify as a DracoInLeatherPants, so it sounds like an Anti-Heroic character can qualify. There are fans who have made excuses for the Vuvalini\'s anti-man stance (I can provide the links if you wish).
How does my edit clutter the \"Narm\" entry? It is in a neat, little NOTE package, so it only clutters, to use your word, when one opens the note. As for my statement in brackets, that doesn\'t add much length and hardly clutters the article in my opinion.
I didn\'t write or edit all of the What Do You Mean It\'s Not Political entry, so you would be wrong to blame me for it\'s shortcomings or praise me for it\'s strengths.
The film may star men, but as I said how men are used in the film can lead to it being construed as anti-man. To elaborate on my complaint, not just all the main bad guys are men, EVERY SINGLE BAD GUY IN THE MOVIE AND ALL OF THEIR HENCHMEN are male; every one of Joe\'s, the People Eater\'s or the Bullet Farmer\'s minions that pursues Mad Max, Furiosa, the wives and Nux is a man. The tribesmen that Furiosa has an arrangement with that turn on her are all men. All of them are portrayed in a negative, if \'\'sometimes\'\' sympathetic, light, being seen as [[RedShirt red shirts]] to blow away or [[LoveToHate monsters that the audience]] enjoys seeing [[AssholeVictim die]]. That can come across as the trope MenAreTheExpendableGender.
You are right that I can\'t have both, and I do view the Vuvalini\'s anti-man stance as mean. The problem is I have yet to hear or see anyone besides myself, in the movie or real-life, [[WhatTheHellHero call the Vuvalini out on it]]. The violently misandrist Vuvalini are portrayed in a positive light while every misogynist is (rightly) portrayed in a negative light. That is quite the DoubleStandard. If there were women among the villains to balance things out I wouldn\'t have taken issue, but there are not.
My entry in Broken Base was to point out that some people have this view of the film; whether you or anyone else likes it or not this view exists and I was acknowledging that. I did not say that the film\'s misandrist; while I don\'t agree completely with everyone who says it, I reached a similar conclusion (that some elements appear misandrist) for mostly different reasons.
The trope DracoInLeatherPants refers to, and I quote from the trope\'s page on this very wiki, \"...when a fandom takes a controversial or downright villainous character and downplays his/her flaws, often turning him/her into an object of desire and/or a victim in the process...\" The key word I want to point out is \'\'\'controversial\'\'\'. The trope page makes a distinction between controversial and villainous characters, yet says both can qualify as a DracoInLeatherPants, so it sounds like an Anti-Heroic character can qualify. There are fans who have made excuses for the Vuvalini\'s anti-man stance (I can provide the links if you wish).
How does my edit clutter the \"Narm\" entry? It is in a neat, little NOTE package, so it only clutters, to use your word, when one opens the note. As for my statement in brackets, that doesn\'t add much length and hardly clutters the article in my opinion.
I didn\'t write or edit all of the What Do You Mean It\'s Not Political entry, so you would be wrong to blame me for it\'s shortcomings or praise me for it\'s strengths.
The film may star men, but as I said how men are used in the film can lead to it being construed as anti-man. To elaborate on my complaint, not just all the main bad guys are men, EVERY SINGLE BAD GUY IN THE MOVIE AND ALL OF THEIR HENCHMEN are male; every one of Joe\'s, the People Eater\'s or the Bullet Farmer\'s minions that pursues Mad Max, Furiosa, the wives and Nux is a man. The tribesmen that Furiosa has an arrangement with that turn on her are all men. All of them are portrayed in a negative, if \'\'sometimes\'\' sympathetic, light, being seen as [[RedShirt red shirts]] to blow away or [[LoveToHate monsters that the audience]] enjoys seeing [[AssholeVictim die]]. That can come across as the trope MenAreTheExpendableGender.
You are right that I can\'t have both, and I do view the Vuvalini\'s anti-man stance as mean. The problem is I have yet to hear or see anyone besides myself, in the movie or real-life, [[WhatTheHellHero call the Vuvalini out on it]]. The violently misandrist Vuvalini are portrayed in a positive light while every misogynist is (rightly) portrayed in a negative light. That is quite the DoubleStandard. If there were women among the villains to balance things out I wouldn\'t have taken issue, but there are not.
