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RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#98301: Apr 28th 2024 at 12:10:42 PM

How does Neo Valla work population wise anyway? Didn’t Anankos kill all of the Valla population except for Mikoto and Arete? Who is there to be Corrin’s subjects?

If it’s not Valla people who somehow survived, then are they Nohrians and Hoshidans from the territories Xander and Ryoma donated? Isn’t that going to make racial tensions worse since you are forcing populations from two nations who just fought a war against each other to be in close proximity together?

Gah, why even give Corrin a kingdom to rule over besides avatar power fantasy?

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dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#98302: Apr 28th 2024 at 12:32:01 PM

[up]Immigration is a thing, and I don’t recall it being said that Anankos killed every single Vallite. I’ll have to double-check.

I suspect some Vallites probably escaped when Anankos went mad, so they might end up heading back.

powerpuffbats Goddess of Nature Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#98303: Apr 28th 2024 at 12:37:57 PM

Last night, I got Path of Radiance in the mail.

Played only a couple chapters but I’m enjoying it so far.

You know, I have to wonder why Pit is obsessed with this site. It’s gonna ruin his life!
RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#98304: Apr 28th 2024 at 12:38:08 PM

[up][up]Well I don’t think the game explained where the population comes from. Since the game goes from “Yay, Anankos is dead” to “Here you go Corrin, have your own nation.”

Also lemme pretend that Selena stays with Corrin at the end of Revelation.[lol]

Edited by RedHunter543 on Apr 29th 2024 at 3:38:24 AM

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dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#98305: Apr 28th 2024 at 12:58:44 PM

Honestly, it’s a case of “the logistics aren’t that important,” since the intended takeaway is that Valla is healing after Anankos was finally put to rest, with hopes that it’ll one day be fully restored.

It wouldn’t be the first time the series didn’t dwell on the little details to avoid bloat, nor would it be the last. And that’s perfectly fine.

Edited by dragonfire5000 on Apr 28th 2024 at 1:08:11 AM

Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
#98306: Apr 28th 2024 at 1:14:37 PM

That brings up a question does Valla's curse remain in effect after Corrin's father dies?

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dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#98307: Apr 28th 2024 at 1:17:45 PM

Probably not, considering Anankos isn't around anymore to fuel said curse.

RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#98308: Apr 28th 2024 at 1:22:07 PM

[up][up][up] Well yeah, me thinking about where the population of Neo Valla comes from is just some idle musing.

[up][up] Corrin has like four dads, Anankos, Sumeragi, Gunter, and Garon. Gonna have to be more specific.tongue

But seriously, considering people can now say Valla in the ending, I think the curse is lifted.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Apr 28th 2024 at 4:22:37 PM

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dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#98309: Apr 28th 2024 at 1:26:41 PM

[up]It's not a bad question to ask, but it does feel like one of those things where the game purposefully doesn't go into little details because said little details aren't actually that important.

I do think the intended takeaway is just showing that Valla is healing after Anankos was finally put to rest. You know those stories where a haunted area starts getting better after the vengeful ghost finally moves on? That's the feeling I get with Valla.

PhoenixAct Since: Feb, 2011
#98310: Apr 28th 2024 at 1:31:59 PM

But I guess Hinoka becomes queen. Only because all her brothers are dead in conquest.

Then there's the Birthright ending.

Turns out Nohr practices absolute primogeniture, meaning that Camilla is actually next in line to the throne after Xander; but the ending has her stand aside in favour of Leo, because she's apparently under the idea that he'll make a better ruler than her.

Which is ironic, because then Heroes gives us a version of Camilla who did become Queen, and she was apparently one of the best monarchs Nohr ever had.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#98311: Apr 28th 2024 at 1:32:08 PM

I think Archanaea and Fodlan are the only ones that have the "Protag takes over the entire continent" thing. Roy can take over all Lycia in Binding Blade in some endings, but that's not all of Elibe. Seliph can run all of Jugdral but only if you go out of your way to kill or not recruit all the actual heirs for some reason.

I still wonder who took over Grado. They got hosed.

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#98312: Apr 28th 2024 at 1:36:09 PM

Amelia obviously. She's good in General, so naturally she'd be a great ruler.

Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf Since: Jan, 2019
I actually wanted to be Resileaf
#98313: Apr 28th 2024 at 2:13:44 PM

Which is ironic, because then Heroes gives us a version of Camilla who did become Queen, and she was apparently one of the best monarchs Nohr ever had.

Y'know, I can see it. Despite his appearance at maturity, Leo is easily flustered and introverted, making him difficult to approach. He's not a very people person compared to Camilla.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#98314: Apr 28th 2024 at 2:16:56 PM

He is incapable of putting his clothes on right to the point even his ingame model has clothes on backwards at certain points.

The complete debacle that would follow in the court on one of those days would be hilarious,

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Anomalocaris20 from Sagittarius A* Since: Sep, 2010 Relationship Status: Love blinded me (with science!)
#98315: Apr 28th 2024 at 2:27:39 PM

Turns out Nohr practices absolute primogeniture, meaning that Camilla is actually next in line to the throne after Xander; but the ending has her stand aside in favour of Leo, because she's apparently under the idea that he'll make a better ruler than her.

Invention of the localization, if I'm not mistaken. The original text suggests Camilla never had claim to the throne before Leo.

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MadSkillz Destroyer of Worlds Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: I only want you gone
Destroyer of Worlds
#98316: Apr 28th 2024 at 3:12:15 PM

Which is ironic, because then Heroes gives us a version of Camilla who did become Queen, and she was apparently one of the best monarchs Nohr ever had.

I wonder why they did that for her specifically. I don’t remember much of this where they do an AU of something not achievable in their games

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dragonfire5000 from Where gods fear to tread Since: Jan, 2001
#98317: Apr 28th 2024 at 3:16:06 PM

Which is ironic, because then Heroes gives us a version of Camilla who did become Queen, and she was apparently one of the best monarchs Nohr ever had.

The original Japanese script does seem to indicate that it might have been a lack of self-confidence on Camilla's part, probably not helped by the whole Hoshido vs. Nohr conflict, which was why she asked Leo to ascend the throne even thuogh she was next in line as the oldest surviving child.

I don't play Heroes, but I'm guessing the idea is that while Camilla might have had doubts about her capabilities, actually being on the throne had her really step up and show that she does have what it takes.

Edited by dragonfire5000 on Apr 28th 2024 at 3:16:27 AM

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#98318: Apr 28th 2024 at 3:28:41 PM

The complete debacle that would follow in the court on one of those days would be hilarious,
"The king/queen's doing it, so it's fashionable now" has been the traditional approach to such things

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Kinkajou I'm Only Sleeping Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: Hiding
I'm Only Sleeping
#98319: Apr 28th 2024 at 4:02:41 PM

Talk about FE's silly "Unification good" and "Women strong but not too strong" rhetoric. [lol]
This is definitely one thing the post-Kaga games did better than the Kaga era IMO. (Though FE15's biggest flaw to me was that it doubled down on the problematic portrayal of women that was perfunctory in Gaiden rather than trying to fix it.
"The king/queen's doing it, so it's fashionable now" has been the traditional approach to such things
It may sound silly, but Louis XIV was the influencer of his era. Ever wonder why European men wore big, poofy wigs for a century? It was because ol' Lou started wearing them to cover up his receding hairline. And the man wore stockings and high heels, which due to cultural drift are now items we associate with women.

INT is knowing a tomato is a fruit. WIS is knowing it doesn't belong in a fruit salad. CHA is convincing people that it does.
HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#98320: Apr 28th 2024 at 4:06:20 PM

The entire practice of keeping rats (until then almost exclusively regarded as disgusting) as pets began when Queen Victoria's palace rat catcher started capturing the most interesting-looking ones alive and showing them to her. She was intrigued, and then so was everyone else!

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#98321: Apr 28th 2024 at 4:10:22 PM

Victoria is also responsible for wedding dresses being white. She wore a white dress at her wedding and then suddenly everyone else was doing it too.

Song of the Sirens
KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
Streamer
#98322: Apr 28th 2024 at 7:01:10 PM

Speaking of Genealogy, I'm starting a story run tonight! Obligatory "Engage sure looks different tonight". tongue

FE: Genealogy Story Run 7PM PT Sun, Mon, Fri; Expert Unicorn Overlord 7PM PT Wed, Thurs: http://www.twitch.tv/kuroitsubasatenshi
Druplesnubb Editor of Posts Since: Dec, 2013
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#98323: Apr 29th 2024 at 3:31:43 PM

Corrin has like four dads, Anankos, Sumeragi, Gunter, and Garon. Gonna have to be more specific
And somehow every single one of them does the "turned evil against their will by magic" trope at one point or another.

Edited by Druplesnubb on Apr 29th 2024 at 12:31:53 PM

KuroiTsubasaTenshi Streamer from Twitch Since: May, 2011
Streamer
#98324: Apr 29th 2024 at 7:03:40 PM

Genealogy C2: where Sigurd's thirst is so great that it could empty an entire tavern!

FE: Genealogy Story Run 7PM PT Sun, Mon, Fri; Expert Unicorn Overlord 7PM PT Wed, Thurs: http://www.twitch.tv/kuroitsubasatenshi
darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#98325: Apr 30th 2024 at 8:45:04 PM

Having a major wall in ch5 of Path of Radiance. On hard mode, it's very difficult to keep my squishier units alive, while Ike continues to be next to useless. Best strat I can think of is to have Titania and Gatrie plug up the bottom entrance, leave some of the soldiers alive, and force a bottleneck so the reinforcements are stuck, but it tends to collapse after turn 3 and half my squad's dead.


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