Young Justice

I am curious how one might use Raven without just doing Trigon again.

Weisman implied recently that they have no further plans for Secret.

Kid Devil and Kid Crusader would be dope. I don't think Blue Devil or Kid Devil have been adapted in any form anywhere yet.

Edit: I stand corrected, partially. According to wikipedia, Blue Devil has made cameo/background appearances in things, including this show. No actual plot significance or even secondary roles, though.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Sep 26th 2021 at 9:02:54 AM

x4 Everyone needs to do their take on Trigon eventually

Anyone know what the viewership numbers for season 3 were?

https://twitter.com/Greg_Weisman/status/1446021825394216961?t=TrpD91V8fpWnlUcenqeh9w&s=19

We have 20 completed episodes and 6 in post production.

https://collider.com/young-justice-season-4-poster-showrunners-interview-hbo-max/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

Here's an interview with Brandon Vietti & Greg Weisman, as well as season 4 concept art.

An official poster, nice. Looks like we'll focus more on the OG squad and Halo, but I think one or two more members will take up a main role, like in seasons 2 and 3. At least one of them being a Lo SH member.

Edited by GamerSlyRatchet on Oct 8th 2021 at 4:42:32 AM

That poster is great, but there's little doubt there's a huge Wally West shaped hole in that lineup.

He’s still not back holy fuck man.

I like she still has the unnatural white skin but still goes with the red hair. Like it more than the bald look.

People really don't Wally to be fucking dead do they?

Yeah. Looks like they're sticking to that Wally is dead narrative right to the end....though this hasn't stopped him from returning in some way.

Yep. I’m content with it personally, but people are also used to people being revived all the time so that probably doesn’t help.

It probably doesn’t help that Wally’s been getting the short end of the stick a lot.

I mean the guy was basically written out of the Flash show and had to be transplanted onto Legends of Tomorrow for a time because they weren’t doing anything with him.

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 8th 2021 at 4:59:00 AM

It's not just that.

Wally is the Flash who always comes back. His whole thing was oh no! I've been absorbed into the Speed Force! No wait! Fuck that! Linda's calling! I'm back!

It took Barry years to come back to life once. Wally's done that shit multiple times. So that combined with heroes often not staying dead meant we were all sure he'd be back...only for Weissman to say that not only does the Speed Force not exist, but no, Wally is for real dead and he's going to say that way.

It was simultaneously a bold move, an utter shock considering his history, and perhaps an unintentional slap in the face since Wally was getting hardcore shafted in the comics at the time.

I do applaud them for sticking to their guns.

My only regret with Wally is that I wish season 2 gave him just a bit more focus beyond the Flash family episode that introduced Bart. Otherwise, I'm fine with his fate.

Bart didn’t do much during season 3 right?

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 8th 2021 at 5:06:30 AM

He got to go on a date, which good for him since he’s from a Bad Future.

He was with the Outsiders for a bit. He and Jaime did less than in season 2, but still fared better than, say, Traci, Spoiler, Cass, and Cissie.

This could indicate just a general disinterest in using the Flash mythology.

Its not like we've had any Flash villains besides that one cameo appearance of Captain Cold showing up at the bachelorette party. Grodd's not even a member of the light.

The confirmation of now Speed Force is a pretty major bit since that is the source of all the Flash's powers.

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 8th 2021 at 5:19:31 AM

We've had Abra Kadabra and Captain Boomerang too. The Shade is more associated with Starman and the JSA these days, but he started out as a Flash villain too. If we're counting the comic tie-in, Gorilla Grodd has a sizable role and even a distinct origin, too.

I mean, we even had a Flash Family episode with four generations of speedsters. I don't see how that's disinterest.

I think Weisman doesn't like the Speed Force in general and prefers the speedsters to be metahumans. I honestly agree with him.

Edited by GamerSlyRatchet on Oct 8th 2021 at 8:33:50 AM

Even if Wally does come back, he wouldn't be doing so offscreen in between seasons, and thus he would never have been on the official poster for the season.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Oct 8th 2021 at 8:37:04 AM

Well it’s not like Justice League ever made much mention of the Speed Force either aside from Wally almost getting sucked in after defeating Brainthor.

And I don’t think Batman: Brave and the Bold ever made mention of it either though that would be a justified case since that show is about all elements Silver Age and the Speed Force came about afterwards in the modern age.

Seems like it’s a habit of ensemble shows not to mention it. Maybe due to not wanting to place too much focus on a particular meta origin.

Edited by slimcoder on Oct 8th 2021 at 8:49:10 AM

Plus the Speed Force can be super abused.