Fallout: New Vegas

It is kinda funny how ultimately, no one really has a problem with the dangerous tribals with far too many guns. Probably because the Boomers don't really have a political stance and will ally with anyone who does some jobs for them.

Well, they never leave Nellis, they're not raiding. The Brotherhood has guns just as big and they go around taking whatever they want. So there are probably a lot of settlements that can sympathize with anyone who just wants to be left the hell alone. Most of the rest of them just don't have the guns for it. The Boomers are vault-level eccentrics living outside a vault, but I think people out in the wasteland have gotten used to that, up to a point.

Do any of the factions have a problem with it if you just go in and wipe them out? I don't think I've ever done that, but that would say something as well.

Edited by Unsung on Mar 30th 2020 at 1:30:22 AM

Caesar is satisfied as it being a perfectly acceptable way of dealing with them. Ambassador Crocker I don't think reacts specifically to them being killed. House is pretty neutral: "I don't promote political assassination as a first option, but it has a long and storied history. I'll consider the Boomers neutralized."

Lastly, Yes Man is perfectly happy with it, but is also perfectly enthuasiastic with anything you do, only being snide if you just decide to outright ignore them. (Although he gets a good one in about "Now they'll only blow up the right sorts of people!" if you ally with them.)

Everyone but Caesar will just sort of shrug if you end up with negative reputation with the Boomers but don't wipe them out, I think letting you move onto the next quest in the line. Would've been nice to have them, but ah well, essentially. I believe Caesar, however, will demand their destruction or their cooperation.

Edited by Lavaeolus on Mar 30th 2020 at 8:16:37 PM

I swear Yes Man is actually being controlled by an unseen party who want to give the impression they're being completely compliant,wouldn't surprise me if House's robots were actually cyborgs

The only ending that ends with the Boomers getting killed off (outside of the Courier themselves doing it) is finishing the game for Caesar and not finishing the Boomer questline. Otherwise he’s more than happy to leave them be, probably because he knows full well they’d be able to bomb the shit out of Fortification Hill with no repercussions whatsoever if he tried to pull something.

Which is probably what everyone else in the Mojave is thinking, probably. Best to leave the gun-hoarding, trigger happy tribals to their own devices. Especially if they have an Old World bomber that they have the training to use.

Edited by ITNW1989 on Mar 30th 2020 at 12:44:03 PM

I refuse to believe that they can get a bomber working that was fished out from the bottom of a lake after 100+ years but the NCR can't figure out the much smaller fighter craft that hunted those bombers.

What's probably most ironic with The Boomers is that they're actually one of the easiest factions to ally with.

Though, it helps that their leaders essentially view their xenophobia shtick as old and tired and want at least one ally.

I can't remember the word on NCR aircraft, but they canonically have access to vehicles. The game just can't support them. The in-universe excuse is that the NCR in the Mojave is over-extended and under-equipped.

They at least have one Vertibird in game, and I think they have more in the lore. They probably don't use them against the Legion because of infrastructure issues.

Can't wait until Bethesda gets bought by a better games company who forces them to use an engine that isn't made of bamboo and duct tape -_- I nearly fell out of my chair when they announced they'd STILL be using Gamebryo/Creation for ES 6.

Although tbh Creation isn't terrible for fantasy. it's just that in a setting that canonically has various types of vehicles and other things that are more fun with simulated physics, the engine is just so lacking.

I agree, although at least it being post-apocalypse helps justify the rarity of vehicles. It's really hard to get a car working two centuries after the fall of civilization.

Of course, Fallout 4 kind of breaks that since your character can apparently make nuclear reactors out of a box of scraps... But whatever.

And you'd still have the issue of terrain. With roads in massive disrepair, you'd be limited to off-roaders, and even those would be unable to traverse more extreme areas.

Edited by FGHIK on Jun 23rd 2020 at 11:34:25 AM

Well if Tony Stark can do it, why can’t we?

especially since we never actually manufacture the power armor frames, only the metal bits that fit over it.

The actual hard engineering has already been done.

I don't think a car (or power armor frame) would be much harder to build out of two hundred year old scraps than a fusion reactor. They'd all be effectively impossible without Tony Stark level intelligence.

Given that the fusion reactor is identical to the various stray ones you find in abandoned buildings, I choose to believe I am looting them right out of the buildings, and the "scrap" system is effectively just a currency so the game can organize it better. That, or we're harvesting the reactors out of the cars we find.

So, what's this "damage reduction" and "damage threshold" system?

Damage reduction takes off a percentage of incoming damage. All incoming damage.

Damage threshold outright says "any amount of damage less than my DT stat does no damage, or does scratch damage".

Automatic weapons are next to useless against armored enemies in NV.

So, what weapons do the best against either?

Edit: Also, what types of bullets?

Edited by fredhot16 on Apr 1st 2020 at 12:21:24 PM

Damage reduction is very very rare on armor, most things have damage threshold

DT mostly replaced DR for New Vegas, but you can still get it from drugs (Med-X, Slasher, and a couple things from Honest Hearts, I think?) as well as a few pieces of equipment that probably started out as modified F3 items and they just forgot to change them.

Armor Piercing ammo reduces DT by a flat amount (and reduces damage slightly, but it's pretty negligible), Hollow Point increases damage but treats the target's DT as 3x higher, standard doesn't do either. I never really used all the various kinds of custom ammo myself, though, so I'm not really clear how all that works.

It's all kinda clunky. If you're using automatic weapons you honestly have a better chance of breaking their armor before you kill them dead. Automatic weapons are astonishingly useless in Fallout games.

The cure is explosives. Explosives is the "lava" in rock paper scissors.

Just bring Boone with you. He'll kill damn near anything in no time, armor be damned.

Not really though. He almost always dies in a legion ambush.

Surprisingly, Arcade always does quite well. Turns out metal armor doesn't hold up well to hot plasma

Never really had the issues you're talking about. You've got to upgrade your guns occasionally, Boone's too, and sometimes you need to switch to something with more punch for heavily armoured targets, but there was never any shortage of guns or ammo. And the Legion never really got close enough to Boone to even hit him, let alone take him down, so I don't know.

Maybe it's the Hardcore Mode making medicine basically useless in combat.

But the legion assassins come in groups of six or seven and several of them bring their own snipers. Usually after i recruit Boone I'm already in their shitlist so he's still in like his paper shirt and cloth hat when we first encounter them.

Carrying plasma lances and sub machine guns, and wearing massive armor.