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TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#38376: Nov 30th 2017 at 3:15:33 AM

Boston's fine. I run it with my Raider gang. I have the Institute as my bitch, the Railroad are all dead at my hands, and I skull-humped the Brotherhood of Steel all the way out of the Boston Wasteland.

None of which I would have written if the writing for Fallout 4 hadn't been so egregiously horrible BTW, but that's a different game.

Chicago would be nice, but I would love another West Coast game, dealing with the consequences of a New Vegas that got rid of both Edward Sallow and Lee Oliver.

Would the NCR have the guts to send their troops back in another Drang nach Osten, or could the remnants of the Legion decide to build their own wee slave-supported city states in the Mojave?

Or would the Courier, being the enemy this time, decide "Fuck it, I'm going to wash my Securitron Mk II's tyres in the Pacific Ocean"?

As for Obsidian getting another go in the sandbox? They did well the last time. Well enough I bought the game twice, let's not forget. Give them enough time, and money, and bonus money that they earned you cheapskate bastards that you are, Zeni Max Media Inc. and they could do an even better job this time.

edited 30th Nov '17 3:17:48 AM by TamH70

JerekLaz Since: Jun, 2014
#38377: Nov 30th 2017 at 3:32:10 AM

[up] let them actually learn how to use the Engine PROPERLY. Share artists and designers to help with that. Not remote server access and a shitty manual!

Yeah F4 plot is schizophrenic at best at times. After I finish the game, I may try again with one of those alt start mods to get rid of the whole main plot, or mitigate it. I mean, I appreciate the Raider option, but it is so inconsistent with the rest of the game... unless the SS has a proper psychotic break by the end and just goes gibbering off into the wasteland.

Chicago would be good, so we could follow up on what the Enclave has become... again! wink

TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#38378: Nov 30th 2017 at 3:50:50 AM

[up] I played my Soley doing the Raider Overboss thing as a way of finally getting to tell Preston Garvey where to stick his constant busywork quests, but it went a bit too far and she ended up enjoying it. And butchered lots of her former comrades in the Minutemen. Because me and she are proficient, expert and absolutely pitiless killers.

Which Garvey must have known by then and he still sent guys and gals after us to die under our guns.

Oh yeah, and I agree - Obsidian must be given time to work on the engine and all its foibles, but if it turns out it's still Gamebryo? Well, I'm doing my Pontius Pilate thing and washing my hands of the whole deal. There are other, better, more stable open-world engines out there. And I've played a few of them this year.

JerekLaz Since: Jun, 2014
#38379: Nov 30th 2017 at 4:10:40 AM

Yeah - just shift to Unity, or Lumberyard or hell use the Witcher engine OR SOMETHING.

And I like how invested you got! I'm just clearly too nice in my playthroughs. New Vegas I'm usually a fairly pleasant Dragon to whichever faction, but the latest run I shifted to a more "You know what, you guys are pissing me off" - KAI SAR got his. The Courier swiped some grenades off the table, then switchbladed EVERYONE in that tent to death. Then cleared the camp GOOD.

The NCR are something he tolerates but he's instigated an independant Sheriff in Primm, helped the NCR around Cottonwood and Camp Searchlight and basically done everything he can to keep things fairly independent and peaceful. But House got his for being a bit too assumptive and condescending. And the NCR will get theirs.

He's basically grumpy at everyone trying to use him. And he's basically a cowboy with a rebreather and no time for anyone except Cass and Rex. (The other companions he's fine with, but not "bro tastic")

I may have to do a Sole S with a similar "Screw all y'all" attitude. though I will likely go for a full institute run... after maybe blowing it up as the minutemen.

TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#38380: Nov 30th 2017 at 4:54:20 AM

I think the engine the Max Max game used would work. It's certainly capable of making a VAST open world, with a wide variety of terrains, weather conditions, spawn points and so on. And it looks gorgeous in its bleakness.

And it's got full support for vehicles. Unlike Gamebr... I mean Creation Eng... I mean Gamebryo, damnit.

JerekLaz Since: Jun, 2014
#38381: Nov 30th 2017 at 5:15:15 AM

[up] The Mad Max game was cracking... but I ended up bored of it, sadly, with the massive map of the second area it had the typical of Ubisoft "LOOK AT ALL THE THINGS!"

Have a Fallout game there, with more interactable NP Cs and quests beyond "Drive here get scrap" - that'd be cool.

TamH70 Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#38382: Nov 30th 2017 at 9:42:50 AM

[up]Well, it was Warner Brothers, not Ubisoft as such, but your point is well made. Thing is, I like games with enormous amounts of things to do. And I think I did most of them in Mad Max. I, if you'll pardon the pun, maxed out all of my skill points from Grifa, souped up the Magnum Opus to its tip-topmost degree of vehicular carnage, and got the Tom Hardy!Max Max look from the beginning of Fury Road, and I enjoyed the process of getting there.

I got my money worth and more from Mad Max, let's put it that way. I wouldn't say the same for a lot of other games I have bought.

InkDagger Since: Jul, 2014
#38383: Nov 30th 2017 at 12:08:20 PM

This is probably one of the first times I've ever said this about a game, but I enjoyed the gameplay more than I did the plot. The Plot of Mad Max was... kind of bad. Pretty bad. Disappointing really. But the gameplay and levels were amazing and plugging in a podcast while doing the side content helped.

SpaghettiCatVI Since: Nov, 2017
#38384: Nov 30th 2017 at 3:05:34 PM

Thats it guys, I am falling for my worst tendencies, I'm gonna do a no-deaths run (actually my fourth now today).

Why do I hate myself like this, and why does it feel so good.

Montjoie! Saint Denis!
Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#38385: Nov 30th 2017 at 7:01:26 PM

Do you mean like no Courier deaths, or like full-on Pacifist Run?

SpaghettiCatVI Since: Nov, 2017
#38386: Nov 30th 2017 at 7:49:59 PM

No courier deaths. This is a nightmare of my own making, but now I feel like I am cheating if I play any other way.

Montjoie! Saint Denis!
Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#38387: Nov 30th 2017 at 7:53:03 PM

Eh, doesn't actually sound too hard, especially once you get Boone. Just make sure you don't use explosive weapons and if you do, never, ever combine the bigger explosion perk with the big kids mini-nuke.

ITNW1989 a from Big Meat, USA Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#38388: Nov 30th 2017 at 8:08:05 PM

[up] But what if they like to live dangerously?

Hitokiri in the streets, daishouri in the sheets.
Balmung Since: Oct, 2011
#38389: Nov 30th 2017 at 9:12:40 PM

I mean, I suppose, but there is no range at which the big kids mini-nuke can be safely employed if you take the perk that boost explosion size, or at least no range less than "fire it up at 45 degrees and retreat as fast as you can". In addition to the larger and more powerful blast, the big kids mini-nuke has reduced range that makes it a much greater danger to its user than its smaller brethren.

Of course, the Fat Man is a highly niche weapon, so this issue isn't likely to come up.

JerekLaz Since: Jun, 2014
#38390: Dec 1st 2017 at 5:51:21 AM

A no death run? Punchy.... is any form of reloading allowed?

And are you doing it in Survival mode as well for added WHYYYYYY?

Poppymuffinseed Poppy from Washington Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Poppy
#38391: Dec 1st 2017 at 10:31:37 PM

I recently started a LOUIS ARMSTRONG build. I did my best to make my character look like Louis Armstrong, and will be a Powder Ganger as my lead faction! I kill people by punching them to death, and by using heaps of explosives!

Golly.
blkwhtrbbt The Dragon of the Eastern Sea from Doesn't take orders from Vladimir Putin Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Dragon of the Eastern Sea
#38392: Dec 1st 2017 at 11:16:49 PM

Why did my mind immediately jump to John Henry

Say to the others who did not follow through You're still our brothers, and we will fight for you
Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#38393: Dec 2nd 2017 at 6:24:28 AM

Because a powder ganger is a forced labor prisoner who works with explosives and we don't see anything else.

It FEELS like a newbie idea but the logistics behind it make an actual successful run a challenge. Are you going for a Wild Card ending? I can imagine that or Caesar being the only two you'd accept.

Poppymuffinseed Poppy from Washington Since: Oct, 2015 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Poppy
#38394: Dec 2nd 2017 at 3:12:40 PM

Honestly not sure which ending I’m going for! I mainly just planned Powder Ganger explosive/fist character! Probably will end up doing that, to at least have SOME ending. After all, the Powder Gangers are a minor faction compared to factions like Caesar... I’ll probably save the Caesar build for later!

Golly.
CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#38395: Dec 2nd 2017 at 4:12:20 PM

House is also viable.

Money!

For blowing up NCR troops!

Author of The Rules of Supervillainy, Cthulhu Armageddon, and United States of Monsters.
SpaghettiCatVI Since: Nov, 2017
#38396: Dec 2nd 2017 at 6:31:24 PM

Here we go lads, this is my for real Di D run, no dying, no mercy. I'm gonna be a medic build, medicine, speech, and guns. And I am gonna avoid the FUCK out of confrontation. And I am gonna be self serving 100% to avoid any chance of death. Except at Goodsprings. I owe that town.

Montjoie! Saint Denis!
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#38397: Dec 4th 2017 at 3:12:48 PM

Okay, having a bit of an issue here.

So after I retrieved the Platinum Chip, Vulpes gave me the Mark of Caesar...and I blasted him with a shotgun the moment he had his back turned. I then proceeded to kill several more Legionnaires as I completed a few sidequests before I went to the Fort, only to find that since I was Villified, everyone was hostile to me. I tried putting on faction armor as a disguise, but I think certain characters (including Caesar) can see through faction armor. I also tried using the console commands to change my reputation, but even when I brought it up to Idolized, nothing changed.

To be clear, I have no intention of working for Caesar, but I'd like to speak with him first, before returning to kill him later.

So...any advice?

Oh God! Natural light!
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#38398: Dec 4th 2017 at 3:17:15 PM

I *think* Caesar (and Cursor Lucullus, the guy on the boat) have special dialogue if you have the Mark and faction armour, but I'm not positive. I think I might have tried something similar, but it's been a while.

ITNW1989 a from Big Meat, USA Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#38399: Dec 4th 2017 at 3:19:00 PM

Unless you have a save from right before you killed Vulpes, you're boned. Vulpes, and the popup you receive upon receipt of the Mark, explicitly tells you that the Mark of Caesar only forgives your actions up until that point, and that any further transgressions against the Legion will result in them forever marking you as an enemy to the Legion. You just killed one of the most high-ranked members of the Legion (worse, you killed a named NPC); you really can't have expected to have done that and still be able to waltz into the Fort.

Hitokiri in the streets, daishouri in the sheets.
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#38400: Dec 4th 2017 at 3:24:50 PM

Well, I think Caesar does still have some special dialogue if you bust into his tent after having killed everyone in the camp, at any rate. Add Boone to your active party and go hunting, I guess.


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