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HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#106651: Mar 24th 2024 at 8:22:17 AM

I feel like there's been a number of characters who feel they owe Joyboy an apology for mysterious reasons, haven't there?

Edited by HamburgerTime on Mar 24th 2024 at 10:29:00 AM

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#106652: Mar 24th 2024 at 8:23:36 AM

Kizaru on the other hand seems to have completely lost any resolve now and is just acting like he cant go on fighting anymore. It really starts to feel like this is building to him switching sides in a later arc.

I admit, I hope even if he does try, he fails. Kizaru is the reason Vegapunk is dying. He waited way too long to defect, so I think he should have the door slammed right in his face.

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#106653: Mar 24th 2024 at 8:28:34 AM

[up][up]Given it's been a pattern for some previous arcs, I imagine the WG's ancestors did something to turn Joyboy's allies against him, then rewrote history.

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diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#106654: Mar 24th 2024 at 8:43:50 AM

I really don't have a lot to say about this chapter, other then I'm kind of annoyed this arc has seemingly turned into another "We have to escape, its the only thing we can do!" scenario. But its not over yet, I will let it all play out.

Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#106655: Mar 24th 2024 at 8:55:12 AM

Well, that's confirmation that the other elders share the same seeming invincibility as Saturn. Which rules out the idea of it being some ancillary power of Saturn's fruit.

I still kinda feel like there's some kind of trick to it, though. Like their real bodies are somewhere else.

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#106656: Mar 24th 2024 at 10:06:27 AM

I definitely think there will be a method to bypass the immortality, but I dont see that happening this arc. Seems to me like this fight is to establish that power so that it will have propper weight when someone finally manages to get past it in the final arc.

HamburgerTime Since: Apr, 2010
#106657: Mar 24th 2024 at 10:09:23 AM

Apart from the regeneration, the Elders honestly don't seem too impressive compared to some of the other people the Straw Hats have fought at this point. Lucci and Kizaru have caused more damage to the main characters this arc.

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#106658: Mar 24th 2024 at 1:17:36 PM

I just noticed that Luffy is pasting his scars back on his body after they were blown off by Warcury's roar. My prediction for next chapter is that Bonney remembers Luffy's advice and uses Distorted Future to beat up the Vice-Admirals (though Franky gets to take out one). Then Nusjuro shows up to attack them and then Sanji shows up to intercept him. After that, I have no clue.

fillerdude Since: Jul, 2010
#106659: Mar 24th 2024 at 6:33:33 PM

[up] Damn I do love how goofy Gear 5 is.

diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#106660: Mar 24th 2024 at 7:01:52 PM

Gum-Gum Baseball was my highlight of the chapter. Also, I agree with Pushover that Bonney should have a payoff to Luffy giving her an example of how to punch like him.

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#106661: Mar 25th 2024 at 3:20:57 AM

Toei will need to tread extremely carefully here. These infodumps present in Egghead are drop dead important. Should Toei contradict something important here and that it cannot be fixed, they would be making the more than 20 year anime worthless.

Not helping matters is Oda taking a much deserved and necessary 3 week break.

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#106663: Mar 25th 2024 at 3:54:28 AM

I didnt mean that one, that one I had forgotten actually. But even that could be contradicted if Toei isnt careful and/or Toei dont keep communication between them and Oda.

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#106664: Mar 25th 2024 at 3:59:10 AM

Speaking of info dumps, I keep finding myself kinda losing interest in the Void Century subplot. Sure, the World Government probably did something to fuck over whoever was around at the time, but as far as it's purpose goes, what does it mean for the story? That they're an illegitimate government? Even if they were legitimate they'd still be total monsters, so what's the point exactly? Sure Robin and Ohara need their closure over it, but if that's what drops the WG and not their casual assholery then that's a weird overall takeaway.

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diddyknux (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#106665: Mar 25th 2024 at 4:00:04 AM

[up][up] Things like Hordy's "backstory" don't really happen anymore. Not to that degree, anyway. At worst you'll get an Adaption Induced Plot Hole that's easily ignored. I don't think we have to worry about something like the anime deciding to depict Bonney eating a Devil Fruit, even though we know she didn't eat one at all.

And the anime stays pretty well behind from the manga, I think. Besides, they'll probably do more filler recap episodes in there too to pad time even more. Like, I can absolutely imagine one that's just dedicated to all the Straw Hats' encounters with Giants.

Edited by diddyknux on Mar 25th 2024 at 6:03:07 AM

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#106666: Mar 25th 2024 at 4:21:14 AM

[up][up] IΒ΄m pretty sure the Void century wonΒ΄t be just a "normal" powerstruggle between nations, without much impact in the present day. The Void century is also heavily tied to the mystery of what exactly the One Piece is, what with the Road Poneglyph leading the way there. And the One Piece itself apparently has some sort of timer, since the Roger pirates were to early, so i find it unlikely that the Vopid century wonΒ΄t have ramifications for the present day. Currently my money is on the WG terraforming the planet during that time and the One Piece might be a way to reverse that (connecting the 4 blues again and giving the people more freedom to travel the world).

Pokesamus Since: Aug, 2016
#106667: Mar 25th 2024 at 6:19:37 AM

Should Toei contradict something important here and that it cannot be fixed, they would be making the more than 20 year anime worthless.
No they won’t don’t be so over dramatic about this. Like even if there is a contradiction for whatever reason it can either be pushed to the side or have an aside statement pointing out how that part was incorrect.

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#106668: Mar 25th 2024 at 6:23:04 AM

Toei already added a line where Hawkins said that Drake was the 1% survivor man, and then when adapting the scene where Hawkins reveals it was actually himself, they just ignored that they did that.

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#106669: Mar 25th 2024 at 6:33:44 AM

Ok you are right guys, Sorry for being such a scaredy cat lol.

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#106670: Mar 25th 2024 at 6:34:21 AM

Textbook example of a minor case, in my opinion.

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#106671: Mar 25th 2024 at 6:08:56 PM

I have soething to ask to Critic, is this tumblr user onto something with "On Ni Kiru"

https://kaizokuou-ni-naru.tumblr.com/post/190833157831/a-japanese-word-that-shows-up-quite-a-lot-in-one

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#106672: Mar 25th 2024 at 7:13:26 PM

Maybe? Probably? I don't know Japanese. I've just re-read the manga a bunch.

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#106673: Mar 25th 2024 at 10:47:11 PM

Sorry if that's not the answer you wanted, but I'm not good at that kind of stuff. If you want an automatic Japanese-to-English translator that's better than Google Translate, I recommend DeepL.

Anyway, here's my tier list for the Egghead arc, barring any last-minute changes (though I'm sure the Iron Giant will be one):

     Egghead Tier List 

Characters in the same tier are not ordered by strength, just by when they were last relevant. First are the Straw Hats bolded, then other characters. Past characters are italicized.

  • S+: Roger, Prime Whitebeard, Prime Garp
  • S: Gear 5 Luffy, Sakazuki, Garp, Blackbeard, Shanks, Mihawk, Prime Rayleigh
  • S-: Gear 4 Luffy, Kizaru, Kuzan, Sabo, Awakened Law, Awakened Kid, Ryokugyu, Gaban, Fujitora, Rayleigh
  • A+: Gear 2+3 Luffy, King of Hell Zoro, Germa+Diable Jambe Sanji, Jimbei underwater, Jaygarcia Saturn, Shepard Ju Peter, Ethanbaron V. Nusjuro, Topman Warcury, Marcus Mars, Awakened Lucci, Shiryu, Burgess, Weevil, Marco
  • A: Gear 2/3 Luffy, Enma Zoro, Germa Sanji, Jimbei on land, Kuma, Ivankov, Lucci, Awakened Kaku, Law, Kid, Hancock
  • A-: Luffy, Zoro, Diable Jambe Sanji, Dorry, Broggy, Distorted Future Bonney, Sentomaru, Lindbergh, Karasu, Morley, Belo Betty, Stussy, Kaku, S-Bear, S-Hawk, S-Shark, S-Snake, Killer
  • B+: Nami with Zeus, Sanji, Gigante Fleur Robin, Don Sai, Bonney, Mark 3 Pacifista, Koby, Giant Sulong Bepo
  • B: Robin, Franky, Brook, Atlas, Pre-TS Distorted Future Bonney, Pomsky, Prince Grus, Kujaku, Pacifista
  • B-: Usopp, Chopper, Hajrudin, Tosa, Helmeppo, Hibari, Tashigi, Hack, Inazuma, Bepo, Jean Bart, Pre-TS Bonney, Saul, Sandersonia, Marigold
  • C+: Leo, Sea Beast Weapons, Koala, Penguin, Shachi, Heat, Wire, Viola
  • C: Morgans, Caribou, Rebecca, Riku Doldo III, Tank Lepanto, Fukaboshi, Ryuboshi, Mamboshi, Pre-TS Koby, Oimo, Kashi, Wapol
  • C-: Alpha, Mansherry, Neptune, Marguerite, Pell, Chaka, Dalton
  • D+: Vivi, Pudding, Shirahoshi
  • D: Karoo, York, Igaram, Kureha
  • D-: Vegapunk, Mjosgard
  • E+: Lilith, Iceberg, Chimney
  • E: Shaka, Pythagoras, Charlos
  • E-: Edison, Cobra

Predictions:

  • S+: Xebec, Joy Boy
  • S: Dragon
  • S-: Imu, Garling
  • A+: Benn Beckman, Lucky Roux
  • A: Yasopp
  • A-: Crocodile
  • B+: Mr 1, Bogard
  • B:
  • B-: Jiron, Ahiru, Ushiano, Gambo
  • C+: Gerd, Goldberg, Prime Clover
  • C: Buggy, Nico Olvia

I could see moving the Elders up a tier from A+ to S-, I'm just kinda iffy on it. Various characters have stated they have insane Haki and their immortality is hard to deal with, but I don't know if the rest of their stats stack up to characters like the Admirals.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Mar 25th 2024 at 10:47:27 AM

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#106674: Mar 25th 2024 at 11:17:17 PM

Where do Kaido and Big Mom rank on that list?

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#106675: Mar 26th 2024 at 2:12:44 AM

  • S+: Flame Dragon Torch Kaido
  • S: Drunken Dragon Bagua Kaido, Bigger Mom
  • S-: Kaido, Big Mom


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