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SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#254376: Apr 13th 2021 at 5:17:39 PM

Man, it’s already been five years since Homestuck ended and two years since the epilogues.

Deadpoolrocks Since: Sep, 2010
#254377: Apr 13th 2021 at 5:59:27 PM

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/14293468/homestuck-adventure-game/posts/3159243

if anyone backed hiveswap here is the teams rebuttal to the article cited in the video from last page.

RhymeBeat Bird mom from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#254379: Apr 13th 2021 at 9:15:06 PM

Damn, Hussie and What Pumpkin got fucked over hard.

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#254380: Apr 14th 2021 at 3:16:01 PM

Well, I've watched the vid and read the kickstarter post.

That was a lot of history.

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Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
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#254381: Apr 14th 2021 at 3:26:28 PM

Seems like Hussie has had a rough time of things since the end of HS, or even a while before.

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#254383: Apr 14th 2021 at 10:11:28 PM

I made the mistake of looking into some of the details in that link, and eesh. Deathwishing is never fun to see.

I pine for the day when I just didn't like the writing or concepts the new Snapchat or Epilogues or HS2 writers were bringing to the table and didn't know that some of them act awful online. At least the one doing the deathwishing isn't on-board anymore, I don't think.

The fact that I kinda reserved my judgement on The Odd Gentlemen and What Pumpkin over the Hiveswap situation due to not trusting random gossip seems to have paid some long-term dividends.

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SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#254384: Apr 14th 2021 at 10:44:56 PM

But it doesn’t make sense. Why would anyone at What Pumpkin do this? More importantly, why now? There is something very off here, like a WP employee is going rogue or something.

RhymeBeat Bird mom from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#254385: Apr 14th 2021 at 11:26:52 PM

I saw that entire video and she hedged all statements regarding the Hiveswap situation with "this is an unconfirmed rumor". It definitely wasn't a "hit piece" as even if she says she doesn't like Homestuck 2 there were 0 personal attacks on any of the new team created for it.

TBH I was completely willing to believe the narrative they gave their Kickstarter backers, if only because lying about this would probably get them in legal trouble. However trying to sue Sarah Z for this is just... Kinda inexcusable?

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Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#254386: Apr 15th 2021 at 7:48:48 AM

So. That's a thing that I caution against forming a strong opinion on. Because Sarah Z didn't say who threatened legal action against her or why, or what kind of legal action. I'm certainly inclined to take her side. But we don't actually know what the other side here looks like.

In particular, I want to call attention to the way WP's statement refers to the company they worked with vaguely as 'GC', even though it's not like that detail of the story has ever been a secret.

Edited by Gilphon on Apr 15th 2021 at 10:50:03 AM

SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#254387: Apr 15th 2021 at 8:03:09 AM

Rereading what she wrote, yeah she never mentions What Pumpkin at all except indirectly when bringing up the backer update (and in facts seems to have a positive tone). The Reddit itself seems to be claiming that What Pumpkin has been harassing her since the release of the video, but I can’t find anything. Is anyone here able to find proof of harassment from What Pumpkin?

Edit: So the only thing I can find is these tweets here from Aysha, but they don’t seem to scream “harassment” so much as “confusion”. But this seems to be what the Reddit is citing as evidence that WP is responsible, so...

Edited by SatoshiBakura on Apr 15th 2021 at 12:09:04 PM

Adannor Since: May, 2010
#254388: Apr 15th 2021 at 10:07:44 AM

People may be conflating the call for harassment over to Sarah from Gio. Who did get a targeted attempt at inciting a mob at them.

Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#254389: Apr 15th 2021 at 10:40:02 AM

Yeah. I mean those tweets aren't exactly happy ones. But the tone is less 'I'm going to sue her' and more 'I wish she'd contacted us about this'.

SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#254390: Apr 15th 2021 at 2:25:28 PM

Yeah, I’m going to wait to see what develops. I have little trust in the Reddit considering the shit they pulled last year, but Aysha’s conflict with Gio looks like a curious one, since she seems to claim that they’ve been stalking and harassing her first.

On a lighter note, apparently Psycolonials is actually really good, or at least there is a very positive response.

fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#254391: Apr 15th 2021 at 2:35:58 PM

Pardon me but what did the Reddit do?

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SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#254392: Apr 15th 2021 at 2:46:00 PM

They had a terrible problem with gatekeeping led by their head mod that boiled over when said mod created his own site to host other people’s fanwork without their permission. When Kate and Aysha called him out (albeit rather harshly), the Reddit responded poorly, and Hussie had to step in and force the mod to step down. To this day, the reddit still acts like the mod is the victim.

RaichuKFM Nine thousand nine hundred eighty-two reasons. from Where she's at Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
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#254393: Apr 15th 2021 at 8:24:08 PM

It's very weird to find out about a Homestuck 2 writer(?)'s existence, more or less, from a screenshot of them coordinating online harassment.

Like, I should probably already know who that is? But don't. So, fun first impression, of them abusing whatever influence they have on the community, or at least trying to abuse it, by all appearances.

It's just so weird.

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#254395: Apr 21st 2021 at 7:18:34 AM

Probably for the best. Kind of a shame that what is, for better or worse, kinda his life's work, had to end on such a sour note.

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RhymeBeat Bird mom from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#254396: Apr 21st 2021 at 8:54:54 AM

I am rather curious about the use of the "They" pronouns.

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fredhot16 Don't want to leave but cannot pretend from Baton Rogue, Louisiana. Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
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#254397: Apr 21st 2021 at 9:36:27 AM

At least he's trying to work on new projects.

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SatoshiBakura (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#254398: Apr 21st 2021 at 9:41:32 AM

[up][up] Apparently, Hussie recently came out as an enby (or their personal version: clown) and accepts any pronouns.

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#254399: Apr 21st 2021 at 10:49:00 AM

Didn't he always intend to move on to something else after Homestuck was done? Though it looks like Homestuck will never be "done" now, which is all I wanted really.

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Shinziril Since: Feb, 2011
#254400: Apr 21st 2021 at 10:55:09 AM

I definitely remember plans of moving on to another project being mentioned well before the final update, much less the Epilogues, so it makes sense.


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