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StephanReiken Since: May, 2010
#3001: Aug 16th 2014 at 6:20:31 PM

The Ai does some stupid city placements. Arabia would have gotten angry with you if u out had settled there before them. Usually they don't go too far out of their way to settle in your empire unless everything around them is taken or that spot had some valuable strategic or luxury resource

edited 16th Aug '14 6:20:51 PM by StephanReiken

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#3002: Aug 16th 2014 at 8:20:58 PM

Civ 5 must hate giving me resources. In my last game I played on an Earth map and was given South America. The location had great money sources but practically no production spots. Even worse was the strategic resources. Iron and horses are a special case. I didn't officially get a regular source of iron or horse until probably the modern era. If fact, my starting warrior unit didn't get upgraded until I was in the industrial era and that was because I traded for my iron.

I thankfully had aluminum and oil to use but I didn't have any access to uranium or coal. I had to snipe Madagascar right off of the Ottomans just to get coal. Must have pissed him off because Rome, Austria, England, and I think the Aztecs all said that the Ottomans were preparing for war. They didn't, thankfully.

Also, I need to up my difficulty to 5. Two times now a civ had way more science than me but I still won the science race.

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Blackcoldren I fought the Lore, and the Lore won. from The Lumberdesk Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#3003: Aug 16th 2014 at 9:43:44 PM

Dido: Oh look! The vermin are breeding!

Me: Stop boasting about your sex-life.

So I finished the Iroquois game and continued the Venice game. I've been going for a culture victory...well I think I am, no idea how to actually achieve one... Very early on the Maya wiped out my religion, it only managed to show up again later on because a great prophet was born to it in York. I quickly set about recollecting it. I became very protective of it. Well now my game is refusing to let me complain about others converting my cities.

So Sweden; who has been my ally since turn 6, is trying to convert my cities to his religion of Confucianism that or he's just trying to provoke me.

See trying is the key word here. I was minding my own business in a war against the Iroquois when all of a sudden I'm told my city was converted. I look over to see a Swedish great prophet disembarking away. The thing is, the prophet converted my city to Buddhism, not Confucianism.

Edit: This whole post was written so fragmented I'd surprised if anyone could follow along. Hopefully y'all get the jist though.

edited 16th Aug '14 11:22:43 PM by Blackcoldren

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#3004: Aug 16th 2014 at 11:17:51 PM

[up][up] I remember the one time I played an Earth map in Civ IV, South America was terrible there too (in Civ IV I always play Incans, while in V I try to vary up my games). It was thin and full of mountains, and of course jungles were less than useless in IV because they caused disease too, and the Incan spawn point was on this tiny strip of land between an impassible mountain ridge and the coast. It was pretty nasty.

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Blackcoldren I fought the Lore, and the Lore won. from The Lumberdesk Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#3005: Aug 17th 2014 at 10:35:42 PM

Been playing as the modded Sámi civilization. And by god their faith building powers are hilariously strong. I founded my religion on turn 59, completed it on turn 97. Every city on my continent accepts my religion with the single exception being the Lithuanian capital holy city.

edited 17th Aug '14 10:44:02 PM by Blackcoldren

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StephanReiken Since: May, 2010
#3006: Aug 18th 2014 at 12:41:37 AM

You'll need a prophet to take care of that one

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#3007: Aug 18th 2014 at 1:15:01 AM

Thinking I might play my next game with BNW mods. Like a full game of custom civs or something.

What are some of the better ones? Should I go with real or fictional stuff? In particular, any good or interesting lost/mythological civilizations? I'm leaning toward playing the USSR since it has Stalin for leader and the IS-2 tank has the unique unit.

I will denounce anyone who suggests ponies...unless I end up going completely goof-ball with the thing and end up with ponies vs. youkai vs. Metal Gears or something.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#3008: Aug 18th 2014 at 1:23:15 AM

My current list of custom Civ downloads is: The Sioux, Champa, Ancient Mediterranean Civilizations, AMC Greek Epics, The Timurids, Philippines (the mod comes with the tagline "Colonialist Legacies"), India Civilization Pack, Ayyubid, Sumer, Nazca, The Goths, Harappa, Kievan Rus, Celtic Civilizations, and Mali.

Several of those are packs that replace an in-game Civ with a group of related Civs. I generally try not to download custom nations that seem broken or OP in any way, so if that sort of thing bothers you then you shouldn't have a problem with any of these. On the other hand, I've barely played most of them, and I'm going by the information the modders gave of the race's abilities and uniques.

edited 18th Aug '14 1:23:42 AM by KnownUnknown

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StephanReiken Since: May, 2010
#3009: Aug 18th 2014 at 6:17:06 AM

Took at glance at your troper page, pick up the Dwarf Fortress Civ, led by Urist.

There are a variety of mods out there. Here are ones I like.

Heroes of Might and Wisdom - Some bugs that you can exploit and in longer games you have huge advantages over the computer so you should play shorter games with this.

Civ 4 Traits - interesting so far, but it won't mesh with all custom civs.

Touhou Civs - Some are a bit strong but overall not bad.

One Piece Civs - Some interesting Civs in there.

JFD's civs - These are real civs, lots of highly custom perks using Scripting and not just XML stuff (so they are more unique perks)

Madoka Civs - Some seem OP others lackluster, just interesting to have around

Adventure Time Civs - What time is it?

Various other Civs - Lots of game tributes to have fun with in varying levels of Civ power.

Only Mod Civs - If you are using a lot of overpowered Civs, pop this in and it'll be more fair by making the AI use modded Civs only too.

Single Unit Graphics - To reduce graphical load. Needed for Huge Maps with a lot of mods that add graphical elements, like Heroes of Might and Wisdom combined with multiple other mods.

Bloublous's Utilities - Various mods, most make you a bit stronger, or a ton stronger depending on what it does. Infinate barb xp is too strong. Letting all Civs build all civ-specific tile improvements (giving the civs they were from different perks) could be interesting but generally favors the player. Fun stuff to mess with though. Buildings Upgrade System is interesting, I like how I can use it but I'm not sure how effectively the AI uses it.

Bloublou's Religion - No AI free pottery makes higher difficulties a bit easier since they can't pick up Pottery for free so it gives you a better chance at religion or picking up the Great Library or Stonehenge. Improved Customizion works pretty good and with the Beliefs expansion pack You get alsmot too many choices to make when deciding on your religion.

Small Continents Deluxe - A map where there is room for everyone with low water settings. I've been playing a lot on this map with 41 city states and I still have tons of room for my civilization.

Strategic Buildings Pack - Its nice to have Modern uses for strategic resources you can't spend on anything anymore (Iron, Horses, etc)

Pastafarianism - All hail his noodly Lord. Lots of Religion packs which are purely ascetic choices.

Civ 4 Diplomatic Features - Some nice stuff to have if you don't turn on another mod that edits the DLL.

City-State Diplomacy Mod - Diplomatic Victory no longer a Financial Victory of sorts but now relies on Production.

Blackcoldren I fought the Lore, and the Lore won. from The Lumberdesk Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#3010: Aug 18th 2014 at 8:23:51 AM

JFD and Janboruta have co-created many nice Civ mods. I'd recommend looking there first. Janboruta does art for many mods that are quite nice.

Also: The TES Civs mod renames a lot of things, cotton->tundra cotton, elephants->mammoths, etc.

I also tried the Turian Civ but the ingame information was scarce so I couldn't figure out what they actually did.

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#3011: Aug 18th 2014 at 9:12:13 AM

I can recommend some Mass Effect mods. Check here for each civ's stats and stuff, and here to get them all in one convenient package.

I also recommend this Elder Scrolls mod. This one is nice in that it also comes with a standard and huge Tamriel map and have scenarios that put each civilization in their true starting location - Imperials start in Cyrodiil, Altmer in Summerset Isles, Nords in Skyrim, etc. This is one of my favorite mods, but you'll quickly find out that as cool as fighting on Nirn is Tamriel is not a balanced map. And despite what Dagon's description says the Khajiit are the real cheating motherflippers.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#3012: Aug 18th 2014 at 9:58:54 AM

You might want to pick up a mod that expands the religion options as well. Beliefs Expansion or Race for Religion.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
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#3013: Aug 18th 2014 at 10:04:38 AM

Man, the first thing I think of when I see a Dwarf Fortress civ, is how the thing can suddenly blow up and die over nothing. Lose a worker to a barbarian? One of your wonders explodes. Gain a random point of unhappiness and your capital bombards a few of your units.

I'm also surprised that nobody seems to have made a Camelot civ, save for Fate/stay night—not that I'll complain about having Saber.

I'll dig through some of these while I continue with Venice.

edited 18th Aug '14 10:29:10 AM by Rotpar

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Blackcoldren I fought the Lore, and the Lore won. from The Lumberdesk Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#3014: Aug 18th 2014 at 4:40:06 PM

Just won my Sámi game via cultural victory, shame no 'chieves. I had a secondary goal throughout the game that all civs would A. make it to the end, and B. own a city.

France lost their every city and I only beat my challenge by gifting them a smaller city for free the turn before I won.

Was up against: Songhai, Assyria, The Timurids, The Grand Duchy of Lithuania, The Kingdom of Hungary, France (Louis XIV), Korea, and Kievan Rus'.

Edit: Tried to start a local VS game against my nephew. And my god the goddamned barbarians.... At any given time there were 7 camps on the smallest possible map. And because it was on quick they rushed like hell. We both teamed up to try and wipe them out, but they advanced quicker then we did..... We gave up when the army of horsemen and composite archers showed up.

Tried to start a second single player game after that, thinking it was a fluke. And it's just as bad, how did I not notice this? Barbarians from freakin' everywhere and they're spawning faster than a single warrior, scout and two city-states can kill.

edited 18th Aug '14 8:15:18 PM by Blackcoldren

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#3015: Aug 19th 2014 at 5:58:53 PM

I am going to nuke my country! In my current game, I've been in perpetual hatred from my own citizens. Also, I am going to wreck Pacal. He's been sniping all of the world wonders. To give a perspective of how bad it is, here's the exact order of wonders I got:

  • Stonehenge
  • Great Lighthouse
  • Colossus
  • Notre Dame,
  • Hubble Space Telescope

That's right, my last wonder before HST was back in the medieval age.

Edit: Also, I never knew this could happen; a city state willing gave up sovereignty and joined Austria.

edited 19th Aug '14 6:13:30 PM by OrionAurora

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#3016: Aug 19th 2014 at 6:28:14 PM

[up]Austria's ability let's them buy them out if they've been allies for 5 turns.

edited 19th Aug '14 6:28:24 PM by Ringsea

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#3017: Aug 19th 2014 at 7:08:12 PM

Huh, never knew that.

Also, apparently my citizens are warmongers. After steam rolling Pacal, I went from 3 happiness to 89. And I still have 3 cities under revolt.

Edit: Okay.... So that 89 happiness I just said, yeah no. The game, 3 turns after capturing Pacal's capital the game realized, "Hey I didn't ask you what you wanted to do with the 5 cities you just captured." So now I am down to 8.

edited 19th Aug '14 7:20:36 PM by OrionAurora

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Blackcoldren I fought the Lore, and the Lore won. from The Lumberdesk Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Married to the job
I fought the Lore, and the Lore won.
#3018: Aug 19th 2014 at 11:15:24 PM

Gonna try the Falcon AI mod.

In my last game as the Celts I was certainly a warmonger but the thing is I told my allies I was going to attack England, even offering them a place in the attack, which they declined. None of them had trade agreements or friendships with England either.

And yet when I conquered England, the French; who up til this point had been the single most hated people in the world after winning a defensive war against Russia and having the audacity to take a city in retort; denounced me.

And then everything went to hell, everyone including my allies denounced me, then each other. It was just an absurd mess. I simply rage quit at A. 17 of 22 civs spawning on a single continent on a multi-continent map and B. No politics are going to happen past all those denouncements.

edited 19th Aug '14 11:15:40 PM by Blackcoldren

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StephanReiken Since: May, 2010
#3019: Aug 20th 2014 at 12:29:28 AM

There is a Touhou mod civ which has a UA that reverses the penalty of fallout to bonuses.

[up] get used to it if you conquer anything. You can lessen the fallout by...

a) taking cities only when they have more than you. The more the better.

b) Taking City States from other Ci a that conquered them to liberate the city state. Major warmonger reduction .

c) Taking cities from a defensive pact war.

d) Don't take cities. Let the computer offer one for peace. Just kill their armies

e) Conquer early game. No penalty if you never knew them during the war.

edited 20th Aug '14 12:35:36 AM by StephanReiken

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#3020: Aug 20th 2014 at 6:56:35 AM

f) Start a war with someone that every other civ has denounced. You will still get warmonger penalties but they will be off-set by an increase in your relationship with every other civ. I won a game as Assyria by conquering the world yet remained pretty popular with the other nations simply by always declaring war on the most hated nation. And don't forget to denounce your enemies!

edited 20th Aug '14 6:57:01 AM by mrshine

Blackcoldren I fought the Lore, and the Lore won. from The Lumberdesk Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#3021: Aug 20th 2014 at 11:18:11 AM

Uninstalling and reinstalling Civ V. Because even though I've played 82 hours over the span of a week without a single technical problem it decided that this morning it's going to tell me to fuck off, and crash every time right before it gets to the main menu.

Didn't work. I'm now enraged and I want blood.

edited 20th Aug '14 12:31:55 PM by Blackcoldren

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StephanReiken Since: May, 2010
#3022: Aug 20th 2014 at 2:58:40 PM

Sounds like something broke and it wasn't Civ 5 :P

Blackcoldren I fought the Lore, and the Lore won. from The Lumberdesk Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Married to the job
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#3023: Aug 20th 2014 at 4:31:40 PM

Yeah, sorry, short temper.

I did eventually fix it, after two installs. On the last one I deleted each and every file on my computer with 'civilization' in it's name. That fixed it. Only ever had to that once before, I think for Oblivion.

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StephanReiken Since: May, 2010
#3024: Aug 20th 2014 at 6:10:52 PM

Hmm, for something like that something along the lines of your Cache corrupting or perhaps one of the user files would be the problem.

Blackcoldren I fought the Lore, and the Lore won. from The Lumberdesk Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Married to the job
I fought the Lore, and the Lore won.
#3025: Aug 21st 2014 at 9:11:27 AM

Anyone here know if a modded civilization that shares it's name with another can also share a game? That is, I have England under Queen Victoria as one of my modded civs, could she share a game with Elizabeth I?

I know a few can share games: The UK shared one with Elizabeth I in my last game, and before that Rome and the Papal State shared a game; even though both their capitals are 'Rome'.

Edit: And tried to start my game up, and it's doing it again.....Ugh.

edited 21st Aug '14 9:20:30 AM by Blackcoldren

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