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thatother1dude Ready to see true darkness from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#1: Sep 27th 2010 at 4:40:51 PM

The trope is about someone forgetting they have a power that would be useful in their current situation, but then remembering or being remind of it. However, the name has people repatedly thinking it's just forgetting they had it.

For that reason I nominate we simply change the title to "Remembered I Could Fly".

edited 27th Sep '10 4:41:53 PM by thatother1dude

Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In season
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#2: Sep 27th 2010 at 6:47:48 PM

Is it being misused?

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shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#3: Sep 27th 2010 at 6:53:26 PM

From what I've read of the trope and history page, yes. A lot of people seem to be missing crucial required bit of the character actually remembering that they could fly at some point. They're adding things like Daffy Duck in there.

For example:

  • In Lone Wolf, you have powers that can be useful in certain situation, but sometimes, the author forgets that the possibility you have that power may exist, and doesn't give you a choice to use the power.
    • More commonly, the series has three levels of powers: Kai, Magnakai, and Grand Master. Most of the powers of one tier have lower powered equivalents amongst the lower tier. Similarly, someone of a higher tier always has all the powers of the lower tier, but only a select few of their given tier. This results in your character often being asked if he has a certain power appropriate for his tier (and bad stuff happening if you do not), but the author forgetting that there is no reason the lower tier equivalent - which everyone should have - could not be every bit as effective.

edited 27th Sep '10 7:01:09 PM by shimaspawn

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
Fnor Does not work that way from Haha, no. Since: Jun, 2010
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#4: Sep 27th 2010 at 9:17:51 PM

Does look like there is some confusion, but I think cleaning up the examples would fix the problem. There seem to be enough that fit, and the description itself seems fine.

thatother1dude Ready to see true darkness from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Ready to see true darkness
#5: Sep 27th 2010 at 9:31:29 PM

^I've tried before. Multiple times. Inevitably people just keep adding non-examples, often the same ones.

This is one of those cases where, no matter how hard you try, the name will keep people from getting the real definition of the trope.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#6: Sep 27th 2010 at 9:50:27 PM

No, I don't think it's the name. None of them are related to the name in the way that they go wrong. I think it's the definition that needs to be tightened up.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
thatother1dude Ready to see true darkness from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Ready to see true darkness
#7: Sep 27th 2010 at 10:15:00 PM

^If you're suggesting we take out the "but then remembers it" part, we already have at least two other tropes for that.

shimaspawn from Here and Now Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: In your bunk
#8: Sep 27th 2010 at 10:51:47 PM

Oops. Posted that on the wrong thread. Sorry. No, this one needs a rename. People keep thinking it's idiot ball.

Reality is that, which when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away. -Philip K. Dick
thatother1dude Ready to see true darkness from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Ready to see true darkness
#9: Oct 21st 2010 at 3:54:26 PM

So, does anyone object to a rename, or to the name Remembered I Could Fly?

thatother1dude Ready to see true darkness from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Ready to see true darkness
#10: Oct 22nd 2010 at 11:49:54 AM

Alright, I did it, though I haven't changed any inbound links yet.

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