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Aug 1st 2011 at 9:21:25 PM

All the fics so far are awesome :)

I had no issues with Bella's response, particularly because it was fairly close to how she reacted in Canon (if admittedly when her kid was newborn, not twenty).

[up][up] Good start, check your tenses? They switched once or twice and it threw me off. It's cute how much Emmett worships Rose though.

[up]Marcus and Didyme's daughters. Bella's mom and stepfather. Any vampire that misbehaved and was punished by the Golden Coven. Rachel or Becky. Alice's niece. Out for now, might edit later.

RedWren the Ephemeral from False Dawn
the Ephemeral
Aug 1st 2011 at 10:31:02 PM

[up][up]Huh, that's funny, I got the same thing today.

Edward's perspective just before to during Elspeth's, Mama is alive.

edited 1st Aug '11 10:31:13 PM by RedWren

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Bluelantern2814 Mage of Life-Breath-Doom
Mage of Life-Breath-Doom
Aug 2nd 2011 at 9:38:23 AM

Good start, check your tenses? They switched once or twice and it threw me off. It's cute how much Emmett worships Rose though.

Thanks, gonna check that. I don't really have much more to add though the only other ideas are snippets about:

  • When Emmett left a fortune for his family
  • Emmett finding his singers
  • After-GC Emmett searchs for his family members
  • Emmett and the "Vampire Olympics"
  • Emmett and Rosalie's daughter Hope Mc Carty-Hale Cullen. Created from locks of Rosalie's hair with still cointained human DNA that was restored and used to create a egg. I felt it was too sweet.

"Here to welcome our new golden-eyed overlords," said Addy promptly.
Aug 2nd 2011 at 11:31:35 AM

[up] Now that you mention it, I wonder... As you mentioned, it's possible to replace the DNA of an egg. What if someone got a regular human egg and replaced its DNA with a vampire female piece of DNA, and then tried fertilising it with either human or vampire? Maybe a new species of hybrid, and a new kind of vampire? Food for thought...

Zolnier The Odd Lad from A suspiciously dull shop
The Odd Lad
Aug 2nd 2011 at 11:39:23 AM

You know in real life hybrids can be different depending on which parent is which species.

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Alicorn Lady Luminosity from The Belltower Relationship Status: Mu
Lady Luminosity
Aug 2nd 2011 at 11:44:51 AM

Bluelantern, for reference, one of Emmett's singers is described in Midnight Sun.

Sometimes I write things.
Zolnier The Odd Lad from A suspiciously dull shop
The Odd Lad
Aug 2nd 2011 at 11:52:01 AM

How come imprints can be turned? I mean the bond causes the wolf gene to go dormant, why does it allow venom to work. Both make them unsuitble for having puppies. Turning even more so, you can't quit being a vampire.

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RedWren the Ephemeral from False Dawn
the Ephemeral
Aug 2nd 2011 at 11:53:44 AM

The only reason wolves can't turn is because the venom is poison to them, so they die before they get the chance to turn. If the gene is dormant for any reason, the venom is no longer poison.

...Okay, it puts you through three days of burning and some characters argue that it does something metaphysical, but you know what I mean.

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Zolnier The Odd Lad from A suspiciously dull shop
The Odd Lad
Aug 2nd 2011 at 11:55:44 AM

If someone managed to make a vampire ovum ripen, or whatever, how might Female Vampire/Male human hybrids differ from the usaul.

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RedWren the Ephemeral from False Dawn
the Ephemeral
Aug 2nd 2011 at 2:01:08 PM

Maybe only females would have the venom, rather than only males? </wild mass guess>

edited 2nd Aug '11 2:01:32 PM by RedWren

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Aug 2nd 2011 at 2:13:54 PM

[up][up] Exactly.

[up] I don't think females would have venom either way, since (at least theoretically) there should be no difference between the X chromosomes of male vampires and female vampires, and the only explanation for the difference in the presence of venom between hybrid genders would be that the gene for producing venom is in the Y chromosome.

Although, come to think of it, if that were true then female vampires wouldn't have venom at all... so maybe there /is/ some difference between the X chromosomes there.

Although I'm pretty sure Meyer didn't think of all that and just made the female hybrids venomless so that Jacob could imprint on Renesmee, but that's beyond the point :P

edited 2nd Aug '11 4:08:40 PM by JamesOrland

Bluelantern2814 Mage of Life-Breath-Doom
Mage of Life-Breath-Doom
Aug 2nd 2011 at 4:33:20 PM

I don't think that a hybrid born from a "vampire" egg cell would be any different, but I think that if you fertilize a vampire egg with vampire spell the result won't become... viable... If i had to choose I would say it would become a nearly tumorous mass of vampire-like cells that grow quickly but them die from starvation and cristalize.

Bluelantern, for reference, one of Emmett's singers is described in Midnight Sun.

I am not sure if I will reference it, because I prefer not to deal with his past so I won't get conflicts with his canon characterization.

EDIT:

In my story there will be a game of "Wolf Polo" or as Thea Singer calls it "Wolf-Jockey-Ball"... I suppose I should describe the game proper? I was thinking in skipping it because I don't think I could do it right.

edited 3rd Aug '11 6:54:00 PM by Bluelantern2814

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RedWren the Ephemeral from False Dawn
the Ephemeral
Aug 2nd 2011 at 5:49:38 PM

[up][up]Hm. None of the partial vamps would have it, then, since they'd have to get the vampire venom from the Y, and they have a human Y.

Also, vampires have one more chromosome than half-vamps, IIRC, so maybe venom-production is wholly dominant (as opposed to codominant) and the extra chromosome and the vampire Y both have something that tells the body to create venom.

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Bluelantern2814 Mage of Life-Breath-Doom
Mage of Life-Breath-Doom
Aug 3rd 2011 at 8:12:28 PM

GAH!!! I hate multiple contracditory plot bunnies. What would be more interesting a "regular" story of a wolf and a shy imprint and how the family reacts? Or a imprint with a family that try to gains monetary advantage or something? or maybe a mix of both???

Also, someone classified Pera as a "Extreme Doormat" in the luminosity page, why is that?

"Here to welcome our new golden-eyed overlords," said Addy promptly.
RedWren the Ephemeral from False Dawn
the Ephemeral
Aug 3rd 2011 at 8:38:32 PM

[up]You could combine them, I think, or split the stories. Just because the girl is incredibly shy doesn't mean her family can't be greedy. It might make it interesting, given that she wouldn't want to irk them or ask for money, the little internal struggle. Oooor have both imprints in the same story, acting as Foils!

To the latter, probably because Pera is so terribly afraid of...everything.

Unrelated note! I'm reading through the light/color section of my physics textbook, and specifically just read the section on why the sky is blue. *

The textbook said that the reason that the sky doesn't look violet to us is that our eyes aren't particularly sensitive to light at the very purple edge of the visible light spectrum, so we see blue easier. Since vampires can see ultraviolet...do they see the sky as violet? Either way, would they see the sky tinted ultraviolet where there are holes in the ozone layer?

...And now I have a plot bunny. Or a drabble bunny. Since it's not actually much of a plot.

edited 3rd Aug '11 9:01:48 PM by RedWren

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Bluelantern2814 Mage of Life-Breath-Doom
Mage of Life-Breath-Doom
Aug 3rd 2011 at 9:20:45 PM

You could combine them, I think, or split the stories. Just because the girl is incredibly shy doesn't mean her family can't be greedy. It might make it interesting, given that she wouldn't want to irk them or ask for money, the little internal struggle. Oooor have both imprints in the same story, acting as Foils!

The idea of the "Shy" imprint would actually be "normal people reacting to imprinting", including parents not being all that thrilled with the concept of a werewolf in love with their 17 y.o. daugther.

The "greed parents" variation... well, actually the single mother, wouldn't be all that greed, in the sense, that mostly tries to push her daugther to be with the wolf, because the mother wants to live for free in La Push and the two don't have their own house (the mother is sort of a maid).

I also already have another imprint in my story, but she is the (and I am quoting myself, while also quoting Elspeth) "The imprint that doesn't want to be a imprint". I think three imprints would be... a little too much.

So... I really don't know xP

EDIT:

Also, how did they solved the whole "Quil, Claire and her parents" problem? All I could guess, is that Quil wasn't arrested, but it isn't specified if he got to visit her, or got her full custody, or what??

edited 3rd Aug '11 9:22:11 PM by Bluelantern2814

"Here to welcome our new golden-eyed overlords," said Addy promptly.
Aug 4th 2011 at 8:09:46 AM

[up][up] Interesting theory. They might see the sky violet, which would be cool... but I don't think they do in canon, because Canon!Bella would definitely have said something about that.

[up] Well, there's a Flash that shows Quil quitting his wolf so he can be with Claire until both of them die, so I assume everything turned out fine eventually.

RedWren the Ephemeral from False Dawn
the Ephemeral
Aug 4th 2011 at 8:38:15 AM

[up]Though Bella does get a general, "My goodness, I can see," and I could see that as being partially about color switch. The sky probably wouldn't be the only thing, though it would be rather dramatic.

I'd guess Claire's parents were brought in on The Masquerade and were fairly understanding given Quil saved their daughter's...not life, mind?

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Bluelantern2814 Mage of Life-Breath-Doom
Mage of Life-Breath-Doom
Aug 4th 2011 at 9:31:56 AM

[up]It turn out alright (minus the fact that they become human therefore die much sooner than many of the other characters)

What I want to know is what happened "in between".

My two alternatives:

  • Claire stays with Quil, possibly out of her own choice, but being visited by her parents.
  • Claire initially stays with her parents, the GC convincing them to allow Quil to visit (also Claire is much more attached to Quil than she is to her parents, cutting him out won't make parenting any easy), eventually Claire decides to live with Quil, the situation might be even take basis on Divorce and child custody laws, despite Quill not being a parent.

EDIT: At the end of Radiance, Claire's parents "caused enough fuss that [Elspeth] send them over Santiago". Also, technically Quil is the only reason why their daughter needed to be saved in the first place. Elspeth might *really help* there, making them understand that Quil *only* wants the best for Claire.

edited 4th Aug '11 9:33:49 AM by Bluelantern2814

"Here to welcome our new golden-eyed overlords," said Addy promptly.
Alicorn Lady Luminosity from The Belltower Relationship Status: Mu
Lady Luminosity
Aug 4th 2011 at 10:31:52 AM

New fic: Sparks, by Wren.

I just noticed that the Flashes PDF is four stories out of date; can I get a final version of that?

Sometimes I write things.
Bluelantern2814 Mage of Life-Breath-Doom
Mage of Life-Breath-Doom
Aug 4th 2011 at 3:52:57 PM

[up]Sparks was awesome. xD

Also: I fill that the fan˛fics should have a their own term, it could be flashes or fan-flashes though, but it could be difference.

Any suggestions?

Also: I love vampires being clueless about mating xD

"Here to welcome our new golden-eyed overlords," said Addy promptly.
RedWren the Ephemeral from False Dawn
the Ephemeral
Aug 4th 2011 at 5:12:42 PM

[up]Red Wren does a little happy dance.

I personally am really enjoying fan˛fics as a term, but that may be partially because I am both a language geek and a math geek. In the RSS feed, Alicorn calls them metafanfiction.

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Aug 4th 2011 at 5:54:27 PM

[up]Metafanfiction ftw \o/

And btw, Wren, great work indeed! I really enjoyed reading it :)

Bluelantern2814 Mage of Life-Breath-Doom
Mage of Life-Breath-Doom
Aug 4th 2011 at 6:01:20 PM

[up][up]I din't quite understood Xenia, also why the bit called "Bastion" has that name?

EDIT: my favorites are Zenith, Quixotic, Nightflower, Pristine and Blood & Gold IV: Fall of Volterra

Also, in my "main" fanfic... I just realized it might end with more words than Luminosity and Radiance combined o.O

(there are 57 thousand now, and it doesn't feel like the it amounts 1/4 of the total thing)

edited 4th Aug '11 6:15:47 PM by Bluelantern2814

"Here to welcome our new golden-eyed overlords," said Addy promptly.
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Witch of the Wilds
Aug 4th 2011 at 7:01:00 PM

@Alicorn: yeah sorry about that. My excuse is that my laptop which contained the stories document is broken. But I can and will make up a new one when I get home. Probably be tomorrow. :)

Should the fanfic be put in a(singular) PDF too?

And would you like me to do Elcenia as well? I can make it much more professional like if you want. :)

edited 4th Aug '11 7:42:24 PM by AnyaReine

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