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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#59376: Aug 27th 2019 at 5:58:08 AM

I never did watch the second movie, since the US run was so damn short.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#59377: Aug 27th 2019 at 7:59:29 AM

Did it release on Blu-Ray already?

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#59378: Aug 27th 2019 at 8:01:38 AM

Yup, which is exactly why these HQ clips are popping up.

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Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#59379: Aug 28th 2019 at 12:39:23 PM

So I started playing Fate Extella. It's fun so far, except I have to admit I sometimes get confused due to how many enemies there are on screen. Like, so many enemies.

Nero is just adorable.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#59380: Aug 28th 2019 at 12:42:04 PM

Oh shit now I can watch Part 2 online now.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#59381: Aug 28th 2019 at 1:37:57 PM

Extella on Vita lowers the enemy count due to hardware limitation for what I remember. But enemy count shouldn’t be a problem if you use one of the more higher tier Servants with large sweeping and quick moves and not on Hard for the beginning when you’re under leveled

Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#59382: Aug 28th 2019 at 1:40:24 PM

Oh, it's not hard, no. I can win easily by simply spamming the attack and charge. It's just confusing and easy to lost track off important enemies, even with the arrow indicator.

vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#59383: Aug 28th 2019 at 1:43:47 PM

Oh yeah, I think the default setting is highlighting the sub boss types with health bars.

Lock on is only Servant but maybe Link changed it?

Some Servants are worse than others, Jeanne has terrible moves while Li has such limited range but good damage

Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#59384: Aug 28th 2019 at 1:46:06 PM

The one I want to unlock quickly is obviously Artoria, but the requirements are a bit confusing.

Nouct insert commentary here from an east coast Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
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Tsuzurao Since: Dec, 2009
#59386: Aug 29th 2019 at 10:33:41 AM

Regarding the supposed "retcon" about Artoria's classes...

Remember that Artoria wasn't actually a Heroic Spirit during F/SN. As I understand, due to her abnormal circumstances, she's limited to what she had available to her right at the time she made the contract with the world (the world lets Artoria pursue the Grail, and if she claims it, she becomes a Counter Guardian).

In FGO, she's actually a Heroic Spirit, so her legend can be spun off into Servants of other classes.

Honestly, more often than not, I find that the claims of "retcon" or "Nasu breaks his own rules" basically stems from...

1: People misinterpreting statements given.

2: Oversimplifying a statement until vital context is lost.

3: Mistranslations (especially, but not exclusively from Mirror-Moon's FSN translation).

4: Removing a statement entirely from its intended context.

5: People repeating old fanon assumptions that were never right in the first place.

Edited by Tsuzurao on Aug 29th 2019 at 10:39:09 AM

EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#59387: Aug 29th 2019 at 11:05:39 AM

Pretty sure that the rule's never been "broken". Every time Artoria has had a class other than Saber it's been due to a special case where she wasn't summoned normally and/or correctly.

Like.

When she's an Archer it's because her spirit origin (when she was a Saber) had been altered, kind of bypassing the summoning system/requirements.

When she's a Lancer/Ruler, it's because she's from an alternate reality somewhat influenced by the existence of the Lion King and the potential of having used Rhon instead of Exaclibur.

When she's an Assassin/Berserker/Alter Ego it's because she's from an alternate universe and the summoning system put her as an Assassin (despite clearly being a Saber) due to the nature of her existence. Or a Berserker because it's an alternate version/clone of the one hunting Sabers. Or an Alter Ego because she got a job.

When she's a Rider it's because she's Santa Claus.

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
Prany Since: Apr, 2013
JRads47 Me Listening to You RN from Emperor Palpatine Surgical Reconstruction Center Since: Dec, 2014
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#59389: Aug 29th 2019 at 11:23:22 AM

When she's a Rider it's because she's Santa Claus.

Also when she's a gunslinging biker maid.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#59390: Aug 29th 2019 at 11:34:08 AM

Anyone got the link for the FGO Mats entries for the Wada designed characters? I wanted to check if her comments are as thirsty as people make it out to be.

Note: Never, found it. Not dissapointed.

BTW, what:

(5) Shingon Buddhism reference. Kiara's sex cult is a branch of Shingon so Tamamo is the principal deity of her cult.

Has this been brought up before? Feels like it should.

Edited by HailMuffins on Aug 29th 2019 at 3:47:38 PM

Comun Since: Jun, 2012
#59391: Aug 29th 2019 at 12:26:31 PM

In canon? No, it was never directly addressed, although Tamamo does make some very subtle passive-aggressive comments about it in Kiara's final boss battle.

TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded toβ€” WANK!
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#59392: Aug 29th 2019 at 8:21:25 PM

Type-Moon sets up a new studio called called "studio BB". The studio head is Niinou Kazuya, who did the Fate/Extra games. They will be collaborating with third-party studios to develop mid/large-scale 3D games and internally develop small-scale games.

I'm happy about studio BB but... why (did they call it) BB...
- Nasu about the studio.

Edited by TPPR10 on Aug 29th 2019 at 6:21:58 PM

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
Nouct insert commentary here from an east coast Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
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#59393: Aug 29th 2019 at 8:29:01 PM

I guess this'll probably be developing the Extella games in conjunction with Marvelous from now on?

Though it doesn't seem like they're starting anything soon since they're still hiring for a lot of roles

EDIT: Huh this seems like it was planned for a while since Niinou hinted at it last week

I have been at Square Enix for about seven years now (my longest yet!). I felt a little burned out with Dragon Quest Builders 2 and wanted to try out a development cycle different from Square Enix, so I set out for a new development environment.

His comments on Studio BB

Edited by Nouct on Aug 29th 2019 at 8:45:00 AM

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#59394: Aug 30th 2019 at 4:39:31 AM

We probably won't see anything from them until next year at the earliest.

Either way, here's a cool idea: a game where the player is the Heroic Spirit, an artificial Heroic Spirit made up of random Phantoms smashed together, and you must cooperate with a unexperienced Master to survive a large scale Grail War.

It justifies the usual Character Customization thingy and adds a screw to the gameplay, as your actions in battle reflect on your relationship with the Master and you must carefully juggle all the numbers so that you don't f*ck everything up because the two don't get along well.

TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded toβ€” WANK!
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#59395: Aug 30th 2019 at 4:49:52 AM

wild mass guessThe entire thing is an elaborare ARG to Extella 2: BB Strikes Backwild mass guess

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
Comun Since: Jun, 2012
Prany Since: Apr, 2013
#59397: Aug 30th 2019 at 7:17:44 AM

BBack is of course made up of two words - BB, which is BB's name, and ack. Type Mars confirmed to appear.

Edited by Prany on Aug 30th 2019 at 7:18:15 AM

Tsuzurao Since: Dec, 2009
#59398: Aug 30th 2019 at 11:50:28 AM

@Epic Bleye, to my knowledge, standard Lancer Artoria is basically just a mildly-divergent timeline possibility (a timeline where Artoria used Rhon more often than Excalibur, but still falls at Camlann so she's still human at heart). Lancer Alter is an Artoria based on 'what if, before Artoria could become Goddess Rhongomyniad in the timeline where Bedivere never returned Excalibur, Artoria corrupted herself to hold onto her humanity?'. And then Ruler Artoria is Lancer Artoria with a modded Saint Graph/Spirit Origin getting into casino ownership (though given she doesn't have a wish for the Grail any longer, she might qualify for it legitimately these days, and is just accessing the class via abnormal methods this time, like Lancer Raikou or Saber Medb).

@Hail Muffins, I think the associations with Amaterasu and the Tachikawa-ryu come up once or twice in CCC if you're playing with Tamamo as your Servant. I seem to recall hearing of a point where Tamamo chews Kiara out as a bad worshipper for fighting against (a bunrei of) the very deity she reveres, and Kiara seems to enjoy being insulted by (the bunrei of) her goddess.

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#59399: Aug 30th 2019 at 2:59:13 PM

Kiara should've told her that suncretism is dumb.

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#59400: Aug 30th 2019 at 3:35:58 PM

But Kiara is incredibly dumb. I can already hear Amaterasu laughing at her.

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