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raziel365 Anka Aquila from The Far West Since: Nov, 2011 Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
Anka Aquila
#57851: Jan 17th 2019 at 8:15:20 AM

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I think that was middly retconned in the UBW anime as the armour no longer existing thanks to the mud shower Gil got at the end of Fate/Zero.

Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, maybe we should try to find the absolutes that tie us.
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#57852: Jan 17th 2019 at 8:26:33 AM

Geez, he has a gigantic armory on hand and he can't be bothered to pull another armor?

Wake me up at your own risk.
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#57853: Jan 17th 2019 at 9:03:10 AM

Hail: He has a counter to one of Gil's abilities, assuming Gil doesn't try that hard and assuming he doesn't use Ea. Gil would murder him because he takes him more seriously than he does Shirou.

EpicBleye drunk bunny from her bed being very eepy Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
drunk bunny
#57854: Jan 17th 2019 at 9:34:38 AM

Jokes on Gil, though, Archer is Shiro

"There's not a girl alive who wouldn't be happy being called cute." ~Tamamo-no-Mae
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#57855: Jan 17th 2019 at 9:48:09 AM

It's not like he doesn't know that. Dude takes one look at each of them and discerns their ideologies. Looks at Shirou and tells him exactly what kind of magic he's working on and how many swords he's making at the same time. I don't see how Emiya's true identity could have possibly escaped him.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#57856: Jan 17th 2019 at 10:47:18 AM

Clairvoyance EX bitch. Granted, figuring out the connection between Emiya and Shirou isn't hard if you're observant.

But yea, given that I don't think he'd anymore seriously. They're both fakers in his eyes, even if he knows Emiya is stronger.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#57857: Jan 17th 2019 at 1:38:36 PM

I take his defeat at Shirou's hands a Never Live It Down moment.

No matter what, nothing changes the fact he got his ass-kicked by a human who barely got any major powers in until just recently.

I don't care the excuses, I don't care the justifications, the moment Gilgamesh lost an arm to Shirou of all people & never to Lancelot, Iskandar, Artoria, Cu, Hercules, etc. cemented him as a laughingstock.

His loss at Shirou is a permanent disgrace, one that can never be fixed or payed back.

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 17th 2019 at 1:43:11 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
JRads47 Me Listening to You RN from Emperor Palpatine Surgical Reconstruction Center Since: Dec, 2014
Me Listening to You RN
#57858: Jan 17th 2019 at 1:41:36 PM

Then he gets sniped by the Faker.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#57860: Jan 17th 2019 at 2:01:25 PM

Slim: That makes Iskandar and the others even more trash though.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#57861: Jan 17th 2019 at 2:09:50 PM

Indeed everyone is garbage.

When a mere human is able to beat what is supposably the strongest being in existence, all respect is lost.

The greatest warriors in all history tried to defeat Gil & they all failed handily. Using his own weapons against him, fighter jets, massive armies, Excalibur, Gay Bulge, Hercules, etc all failed absolutely & yet Shirou prevailed.

This whole thing is a farce. tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Comun Since: Jun, 2012
#57862: Jan 17th 2019 at 2:24:54 PM

I just now realized Gilgamesh was able to maneuver his giant Indian airship in a complex dogfight without having the Riding Skill.

Chariot King of Anime Since: Jul, 2014
King of Anime
#57863: Jan 17th 2019 at 3:26:17 PM

Given that the Holy Grail can't summon gods and Gilgamesh is a god in his myth, we can assume he's been nerfed significantly. Couple that with Servants being clones and not the originals and Shirou beating Gilgamesh isn't a stain on his character.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#57864: Jan 17th 2019 at 3:29:28 PM

He's only 2/3rds God.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#57865: Jan 17th 2019 at 3:35:33 PM

I think he has the highest Divinity of a demi god but gets ranked down because lol fuck you god

Powerlevel is one thing but the real take away from the Shirou vs Gilgamesh fight is supposed to be look at this nerd achieving his ideal, isn’t that just touching

Because it is.

Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#57866: Jan 17th 2019 at 3:57:13 PM

Gilgamesh has this uncanny ability to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#57867: Jan 17th 2019 at 4:02:06 PM

He also gets the best feat against Kiara considering how she's the strongest against him, followed by the girls, and Archer being the one most resistant because he's just that dumb.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#57868: Jan 17th 2019 at 4:03:01 PM

Makes D-Meme even stupider

God I dislike Emiya Alter

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#57869: Jan 17th 2019 at 4:15:46 PM

I like him, I just hate his design.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#57870: Jan 17th 2019 at 10:00:18 PM

Divinity seems to be a sliding scale and isn't totally based on rank in the skill either. Like Karna recognizes that Tamamo is way closer to a divine spirit than he is. But anyway, neither Gil nor Karna are considered Divine Spirits.

TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Shocking Gun!
#57871: Jan 17th 2019 at 10:40:51 PM

Divinity is such a silly skill. I am pretty sure it has more disadvantages than advantages.

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#57872: Jan 17th 2019 at 11:45:02 PM

The divinity skill in and of itself isn't said to do anything except in Karna's case where it gives him defense against fire and some authority over other sun based demigods. The point is that Servants with divinity happen to have stronger abilities thanks to divine blood.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#57873: Jan 18th 2019 at 3:57:49 AM

I think all the drawbacks against Divinity is to give powerful Servants a weak spot or two.

Servants with Divinity generally tend to be the strongest in the franchise, after all: Karna, Gilgamesh, Herakles, Rama, Sanzang, Iskandar, and so on and so forth.

Comun Since: Jun, 2012
#57874: Jan 18th 2019 at 5:11:14 AM

Sanzang isn't really that strong aside from her power to go Buddha, and that's a suicide move.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#57875: Jan 18th 2019 at 5:35:13 AM

She can keep up with the likes of Lancelot in a physycal fight, that's plenty strong.

Remember, Casters are generally weaker than the Knight classes. So Sanzang measuring up to one of Saber's finest still puts her well above what you'd normally expect out of the Caster class, if not necessarely out of Servants in general.


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