Sinfest

http://www.sinfest.net/view.php?date=2019-06-09

Ugh...damn it...I kinda get and agree with his point a bit this time. This last bit of Pride Week I saw a whole lot of threatening and physical violence to TER Fs in the news, clips, and Twitter feeds.

They say their crap to rile up the crowd (they probably count on it a bit) but it ends up making them look like a martyr. You can say the dumbest, most incorrect, rudest crap ever imaginable, but the moment you act in violence you have lost. No matter what side you are on.

So... horseshoe theory?

That's interesting. Where exactly does Tats figure he stands on the horseshoe? And what do the Handmaid-ish girls stand for in the "left" panel?

He probably feels he is "above the horseshoe". And they are sex workers. The right is child-bearing wives.

Edited by Gibson35 on Jun 8th 2019 at 11:09:09 AM

Hmmm...

If I had to choose I'll go patriarchy right.

They sell gender classic. Much better than that new gender they came out with a while ago.

And I do love bibles and guns so that's a big selling point.

And honestly it just looks cleaner and brighter than patriarchy left.

And I would much rather have a few armed guards around then bondage preacher and insane ax guy.

Pretty easy choice actually.

Note: I really hope everyone can tell I'm joking about coke and new coke and not actually talking about gender.

Pretty certain they're the submissive women that Tats assumes all right wing men want women to be.

You know, there was always something that bugged me about that book. All the men in power have all the women who can reproduce, and they maintain control via mercenary armies, AKA armies with no real loyalty beyond their paycheck.

So why don't the mercs ever just kill the dudes, and divvy up the women and loot among themselves? I'd imagine the whole thing would become mini empires run by merc leaders within a week of starting rather than end up the way it did.

Edited by Metalix on Jun 8th 2019 at 11:09:41 AM

So what the heck is tats target market anymore?

He is taking some really broad shots at both political sides with this one so... what's left?

Super fringe groups? Only extreme feminists who have no other political views besides extreme feminism?

Edited by bigking on Jun 8th 2019 at 11:14:00 AM

To quote the joker "If I had to choose, I'd rather it be multiple choice"

Usually with fervent believers they will feel themselves above a classification, as if their method of thought is beyond that of the competition. Calling them fringe, in their opinion, is a badge of honor because it further separates them from the status quo.

But in reality they share a hodgepodge of views you can find within the extremes of right and left.

Also, he probably has a bunch of strategies for pushing radical feminism forward. Of course he would prefer it if you agree with him, but he probably is of the mind that even bad press is good press. As long as people are talking about his strip, he has some measure of victory.

I'm not saying "Let's stop talking about it" to spite him. I enjoy talking about this hot mess. I'm just saying that even as we bash him he still feels like he's winning because we are talking about him and his comic (and by extension: rad-fem).

The longer something is discussed, the more likely something is to be more thoroughly examined. Or in other words, the longer an investigator hangs around, the more likely they are to convert. Take his forum for example: it IS growing. Slowly, but surely it is growing. And his donors are drifting away, but those who are left behind are giving him more and more money.

It helps to just think of him as Cartman in terms of how he uses his mental gymnastics to convince himself of how awesome he is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZlXdw8gML8

Edited by Gibson35 on Jun 8th 2019 at 11:49:01 AM

I'd Sooner Throw myself off a Cliff than Side with Tats. I'd Rather have a Drill Put Through my Skull Than Side With Tats. I'd Rather Read My Immortal, Twilight, Racial Holy War and FATAL in their Entirety, Back To Back, With No Break In Between, Than Side With Tats.

And that is why you are a-okay, Yami Blade. XD

Also, you are a very brave soul indeed if you have read "My Immortal".

It's ALMOST as bad as Dworkin.

Good ol' Tats probably thinks that he's in a whole other class altogether, soaring high through the sky while we grunt, drool, and groan while banging sticks together.

Edited by Gibson35 on Jun 8th 2019 at 11:44:38 AM

I think he believes he's above classification.

He's the one good male radical feminist. There's got to be impressive mental gymnastics involved in that belief.

To me today's comic is utterly meaningless. It's just imagery. Tats is pointing out things he doesn't like as always.

Tats is like some people I know... they criticize everything under the sun, but heaven help anyone who criticizes stuff they like OR make! Because, of course, unlike us poor unenlightened fools, they KNOW. A couple of examples are a friend of mine who literally goes ballistic if I say ANYTHING that is not scathing criticism towards the left in general and communism in particular (nevermind that my family has always been left-oriented for over fifty years), and an otherwise kind, gentle old lady from the center for the elderly I help at that a while ago joined a "my way or the highway" kind of branch of the catholic church - and since then saying ANYTHING that contradicts their point of view, or even puts it in doubt, sets her off. And no, we can't change topic, she literally DRAGS IT BACK with absurd mental backflips. yay.

A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.

— Winston Churchill

Tats is so deranged he's listing normal feminists as part of his fantasies of enemies everywhere. Note the "Wokeness Centre" sign in the first panel

Apart from that, it's just a boring rehash of http://www.sinfest.net/view.php?date=2018-08-26 with the added nausea of blatant terf stirred in and much, much heavier anvils

One weird thing I've realised, for all Tat's lunatic croosading and misguided sociopathy, he's never once suggested a realistic (or insane) answer to any of it that I can remember.

Guess the idea of changing things would affect his tiny cult's sense of victimhood

Edited by NeedsAirCon on Jun 9th 2019 at 10:26:24 AM

"Disobedient women get the wall"? What's that supposed to mean?

Had to google it myself

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=get%20the%20wall

In a word, execution

I didn't even have to google that one to get the intended meaning, thanks to the surrounding context (Right-dominated social order, gun-toting SWAT officers, overall eerie similarity to a police state...).

That being said... Credit where it's due, this is exactly what I envision the Devil would do: Subvert and corrupt all sides of society to serve his ends, so that no matter what happens, he'll always benefit. The only way to properly fight him is to operate outside the system that he runs.

Edited by MarqFJA on Jun 9th 2019 at 6:59:51 PM

I had been suggesting, way back when the madness all started, that one way to salvage the comic would be to reveal that the Sisterhood were (unknowingly) also a product of the Devil, who was conspiring behind both sides of a Gender War, and that the way forward was for both sides to come together in peace.

It seems like Tats is trying to do something vaguely along those lines here, but in a much, much worse way.

It seems particularly weird that fembots are associated with the left. From that older comic someone just posted up thread (in which I hadn't noticed the Left and Right signs before), it seems like Tats is saying that left and right just take up opposite sides of the virgin-whore dichotomy? The left wants cheap whores and the right wants virgin brides?

Also, where does Tats see his economic views falling? He's still a Marxist right? That's nominally a left-wing position. Though plenty of libertarian socialists would argue that it's really halfway back to right-wing again, in abandoning the liberty half of the liberty+equality the left originally stood for. Does Tats maybe see himself that way, except positively instead of pejoratively?

@Alarkhar: Oh yes, that is absolutely a thing in any group or religion. You have the new, fresh convert. The one who wants to make their mark in a group and to stand out in it. The feeling is reinforced because for the first little while a group will pay more attention to a new convert (particularly because they are novel), but when they aren't focused on as much they either fall away or gradually bring the crazy back down (or, on the contrary, keep the crazy going).

Darth Helmet in the comic strikes me as a new convert. Very aggressive and vocal with her beliefs. Usually, this is done to further assert their beliefs to themselves. Sometimes it seems the most vocal are the ones who harbor some doubt about their beliefs and it turns into a battle to force themselves to believe.

That's not a Hoffer quote either, that's just my experience over the years.

Tat is different though; he's not a new convert and hasn't been in a long time. In a sense he is a leader via his comic and the forum he created. He just lost a lot of his readers and he's trying to get them back.

Wasn't this the plan of the Reverend Whirly in the Dragnet movie?

Where's Friday when you need him?

You have to admit, Tats is making a pretty strong statement of unity with this comic.

Political left, political right, both can agree that Tat's views are freaking crazy.

Also, when I saw the women in the second panel, I thought they were supposed to represent the handmaid's tale, though apparently it's the left that wants to control women (this seems backwards, it seems like under Tats ideology the left should want to implicitly control women by brainwashing them rather than such an overt method). Perhaps they're just dressed like that to evoke the imagery of the 1920s or something.

Speaking of, does anyone else find it funny that Tats has said absolutely nothing about this whole abortion issue? An extremely crucial women's rights issue comes up that has all actual feminists up in arms and Tats is too busy being off in his own little world fighting his imaginary enemies to comment on it. It does a good job highlighting how out of touch he really is with actual women. I guess in his ideal world sex would never happen so abortion is unnecessary.

Edited by Terotrous on Jun 9th 2019 at 10:50:54 AM

I'm severely confused by the "punish disobedient women" dude with the axe in the Left picture. When was that a major part of left-leaning ideologies?

http://www.sinfest.net/view.php?date=2019-06-10

What your goggles do say otherwise child.

Edited by Metalix on Jun 9th 2019 at 8:27:36 AM

It would say she's full of shit.