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I highly doubt Hitler was "insane" by any medical standards. Socially, perhaps, but that is just linguistics.

But let's not reduce the horrors of World War II to a hypthetical case of insanity, shall we?

Perfectly sane people can do perfectly horrible things. Which makes it all the more scary when it happened. That breed of racism was born from psuedosciences like phrenology and race theory, which were based on rational reasoning. The horrors of both world wars were a direct result of scientific developments, some of them based on faulty assumptions (which is how you arrive at racial theory, for instance). This is why you see a shift from blind trust and optimism about science in the public to mistrust and pessimism.

And that's not even going into how people with differing opinions or behaviour get labeled as "insane" by those same pseudo-scientists. That's how you get things like diagnosing women with "hysteria" (which is basically insanity for women), or declaring homosexuality a mental disease.

So yes, reducing the complexities of Nazism to insanity IS insulting.

Edited by Redmess on Jan 24th 2019 at 6:23:38 PM

Optimism is a duty.

Okay, I'm almost certain that this isn't what you meant, but calling that a direct result of scientific developments makes you sound like some Mono-green Luddist.

Scientific development wasn't the problem. It was what people did with it when they were hopped up on a cocktail of nationalism, militarism, and imperialism (that is to say, everyone thinks their country and people are better than everyone else, everyone wants to have a bigger, stronger military than everyone else, which is the traditional way at that point of "proving" that your nation is better, and everyone wants to have more territory than everyone else, which is often times secured by that larger military), combined with a complicated series of alliances and old grudges that meant when one group went to war, everyone did.

Or, for part two, what they did with scientific developments after people decided the appropriate response to the absolute shitstorm that occurred was not to seek reconciliation, mutual healing, and a shared commitment that such an atrocity should never happen again, but rather to pin all the blame on a convenient target and screw them over so badly that people literally had to get paid twice a day so they could buy lunch and dinner before their currency became even more worthless, and you'd probably get a better deal if you offered those bills as a physical good like kindling or toilet paper than as a medium of exchange.

And even saying that is an oversimplification.

Edited by Dragon573 on Jan 24th 2019 at 10:26:10 AM

It's kind of funny. Sufficiently advanced stupidity is like sufficiently advanced science; eventually, you find something you can't solve.

That, and a shitload of mutual protection treaties. Christ, world war 1 was a goddamn clusterfuck....

You know, I have a major problem with the robot.

It's. Still. NOT. a. Combiner.

Seriously, why is it not? Fix this, now.

Today's comic

Who are you trying to impress here, Tats? Those things are about as dangerous as a kitten.

Those things are about as dangerous as a kitten.

Less dangerous. A feral kitten bit me a couple of years ago. My hand swelled up like a balloon for almost a week (and yes, I immediately went to my doctor and got antibiotics.) Catbite is almost as much fun as snakebite.

I wish those drones were fitted with explosive charges that would shoot shrapnel in the direction an attack comes from.

Edited by Hexapodia on Jan 25th 2019 at 2:42:12 AM

On the subject of names: Very few of the living female characters have real names. There's Monique, and Miko, and Xanthe, and Clio, and Tess, and Hekate. Oh, and Becky, remember her? Monique, Hekate, and Becky are the only ones we didn't have to wait months to learn.

But other female characters are designated by their colors: Amber, and Tangerine, and Blue, and Fuchsia, and Absinthe, and Sapphire. Liberty and Bondage and Domination are identifiers for archetypes. And "Nana" isn't a name, it's a title.

Ah, but then there are the names of the fembots! We have ... er ... um ... well ...

I'll get back to you ...

Edited by Hexapodia on Jan 25th 2019 at 2:43:21 AM

I liked the color theme naming of the devil girls.

Optimism is a duty.

Yep, apparently females are worthy of everything but a name.

Edited by alarkhar on Jan 25th 2019 at 1:04:56 PM

Platypi hold the secret to happiness.

No one was complaining about the devil girl names all those years ago, though.

Optimism is a duty.

Tats wasn't a Male Ally all those years ago.

Not only that, having a Color for a name seemed ok when you are more of a villain for a joke a day comic. Look at M&M commercials, we know them only by their Colors, Red, Green, Yellow, Blue, Orange, yet we know their personality and were ok with just calling them their colors because the commercials are just silly advertisement for candy. Blue and Fuscia were just succubi working for the Devil, and they had silly plots to get Slick's soul.

But now we have serious plots for serious people. Having the characters only known by their color doesn't really fit anymore. His bad writing isn't helped when I only know someone by the nickname Violent Violet (aka the one with the biggest ego for someone the least important)

And you know what, that's what really gets to me. This newest comic has a drone-bot getting killed by this character. Does anyone care that doesn't worship this comic for its feminism? No.

But there are other stories where we know that the minions are a non-threat and still enjoy the villains and heroes. Look at GI Joe, look at 1986 Ninja Turtles. Does anyone think a Cobra soldier or a Foot-Clan robot will be of any trouble for our heroes? No, not really, but we are still excited to watch the show because the villains do things that actually cause the heroes to stumble. Sometimes Cobra does have the world on its knees, sometimes Shredder and Crang do seem to have an unstoppable weapon. Yet it's the strength of the heroes that save the day.

Tats heroes, they never exert, they never sweat, they never have a challenge, it's just "We exist, we win".

Edited by Rothide on Jan 25th 2019 at 6:00:17 AM

I'd argue it's worse then that since we never see them win.

Oh sure, Tats bends over backwards to avoid bad things happening to them or at least the bad things being their fault. But they never really win through their own accord either. Just look at this pimp arc.

2018 lady blew up pimp's robot sure, but did so because of grimsby scythe which she picked up with a drunken stupor and fired with a motivation of "oh, Why not?"

Pimp got dealt with, but by something completely out of the girls control. He didn't even get a satisfying end.

And prostitute woman didn't get any closure beyond, "Hes dead now." I doubt nothing will really change and shell cower in her hole forever.

Tats world is static and unchanging. It's only purpose to serve as a weak allegory for recent events and problems, but unable to solve them.

I don't think unusual names neccesarily get in the way of serious stories. My Little Pony ended its latest season with a villain called Cozy Glow, who was definitely a serious threat, and even got sent to Pony Hell (basically Azkaban). She-Ra's characters similarly have rather silly sounding punny names, but is a fairly serious show overall. And if we go a bit more mainstream, Star Wars has its fair set of examples, too. Count Dooku? Boba Fett? Jar Jar Binks? Snoke? Those are pretty silly names.

Grimsby? That's a GREAT name.

Edited by Redmess on Jan 25th 2019 at 4:00:46 PM

Optimism is a duty.

Shouldn't Devil Tech already know the members of the Sisterhood by face? They sent the drones to raid their hideout years ago, did it again last year (or the year before, I forget), so they should be on a shoot-on-sight basis.

That hinges on the assumption that I was doing such reduction, which is patently false. All I was saying is that the way Hitler acted regarding a lot of things makes it highly likely that he was not mentally sound, in the specific sense that said mental unsoundness was a contributing factor among many (because obviously you have to be pretty evil or heavily indoctrinated to begin with in order to sincerely believe that racism is right/good).

Seriously, why else would he be so stubborn about overruling his own generals time and again in favor of obsessing over ever more increasingly impractical "wonder weapons"? Or keep believing that he, a guy who never got past the rank of colonel, would know better about conducting a war in freaking Russian winter than a whole cadre of veteran generals? Or believe that Fighting Spirit alone can somehow allow German soldiers to defy both the laws of nature and win battles that by all logic they have zero chances of winning or even surviving?

Let's face it: He was a very evil bastard, but also one who was not right in the head. Stalin was arguably just as evil, and yet the only thing he was guilty off in terms of unsound mental health is being so paranoid about having enemies in his own party/government/military that are greedily and murderously eyeing his seat and accumulated power that he conducted a whole series of massive purges to find and eliminate them (read: only a fraction of those arrested and convicted could be plausibly suspected of such treachery).

Fiat iustitia, et pereat mundus.

I think that part about his military actions is more a case of inflated ego, overestimating his own miltary abilities, and the general flaws associated with being a dictator (not accepting criticism or opposition of any kind, even beneficial to his own cause, mistrust in others, fear of perceived weakness). That's not really being insane, that's being corrupted by power to the point of incompetence.

Optimism is a duty.

I think the tagline for today's comic pretty much sums up the Sisterhood's attitude towards any conventional storytelling rules.

@Raylas Those were some of the alliances I was referring to, yes.

Also, re:comic

ROW, ROW, FIGHT THE POWER!

Jesus, it's like she's suddenly decided to start scoring points with me.

Edited by Dragon573 on Jan 25th 2019 at 8:18:03 AM

It's kind of funny. Sufficiently advanced stupidity is like sufficiently advanced science; eventually, you find something you can't solve.

Actual struggles for female characters is going to be a pipe dream.

A question about today's comic: It's been years since I last watched the movie, but does Darth Helmet's action parallel a scene in Die Hard?

I have a vague recollection that at one point Hans Gruber or one of his accomplices was challenged by a security guard, and the terrorist gave some lame excuse. When the security guard challenged the excuse, the terrorist "sarcastically" shot and killed him.

Note that in this example —IF I've remembered it correctly — the security guard was the good guy.

By the way Tatty boy, your pet psychopath isn't the only one who can do what they want, and the guy I'm thinking of is WAY cooler.

Seriously though, your title is the same thing a spoiled little shit on Maury would say. That says WAY more about your mindset then I think you wanted.

http://www.sinfest.net/view.php?date=2019-01-26

On one hand, like being outnumbered by those stupid drones has ever even been a mild annoyance to you little brats.

On the other, YAY! The violent little shit doesn't get what she wants for once!

I'd say leave her, but that would honestly just end up with her getting the mech she wants.

Tess shoulda left her there.

No, what should happen is The Devil opens up a pair of Hellholes for them, tossing them into ironic hells.

Tess would be trapped in a place where everything she makes fails to function at all, while armies of Miltons take her ideas and actually make them work with simple adjustments. Basically, she'd be a looter from Atlas Shrugged, and be surrounded by John Galts. (Coincidentally, that would also be the only time I'd actually root for Galt.)

This is pretty much the only real kind of hell I can think of for Tess, if only because the only thing she has that causes her to differ from any other Sisterhood member is being a tech head with a bit of an ego. So she's trapped in a world where her tech work is always shown up.

Violet on the other hand, would be in a world where women are all trapped in literal chains by wimpy men, and all her attempts to free them with violence just make the chains more durable, and the men bigger, and stronger, constantly chanting "you see why we put the chains on you?"

Basically, the idea here hammers home that Violet's tendency towards violence and hate is NOT helping anyone, and is in fact just making things worse as the people she assaults become more driven against her and what she wants.

Heck, this is fun, let's keep going with these ironic hells for the Sisterhood and affiliates!

Clio: Simple enough. Just make it so she can't run away from the consequences of her actions. All the fembots she's left to die stare at her, begging to know why she never tried to save them. The hookers and strippers who lost business from her fake doxing the Johns and hacking the sound systems in their clubs, now destitute and starving, pleading to know what they did to have her do what she did to them. Really hammer in that it wasn't white men who wanted to do these things, but her simply because she wanted to hurt said men and didn't care who got caught up in the crossfire.

Nana: Trapped in a world where the little girls she helped raise and train have gone completely off the deep end. They don't just attack the patriarchy anymore, now they attack women who don't fall in line with their philosophies. They basically turn into a feminist version of Hordy Jones' gang.

Auntlers: Her magic is gone, and a horde of Johnbies is marching to her house. Short, sweet, to the point.

Absinthe: Restart the whole trip Monique and Slick's relationship had throughout the lifetime of this comic, including up to this point, but Absinthe is now in Slick's place.

Monique: Here's a fun one. Don't even need to get violent, and I've already mentioned this. A world where no one knows who she is, and more to the point, they don't care. No veggies thrown at her or cat calls, but no one sings her praises. She's essentially nobody to everybody. The only exception being Absinthe, who now acts like Evil Slick on his worst days.

Finally, Xanthe: A world where she is completely, and utterly alone aside from buildings and old newspapers. On the newspapers we see that she got her man free paradise, and it resulted in a mass extinction of humanity as it was unable to breed a new generation. She'll be left alone in the one thing she wanted, and it's inevitable result.

Anyone else wanna add their own versions?

I say throw all the extremist feminists in a world that actually is equal in premise, instead of one where women dominate over men.