The General Star Wars Thread

Amusingly enough, the Sith have their own Chosen One, the Sith'ari.

And the Book of the Sith has EVERY Sith lord claiming that they are the one.

I could swear I remember people saying that was in some novel or something. I recall it mainly because people were dismissing it as a lazy retcon to keep Anakin's victory meaningful in light of TROS - Anakin was a Chosen One, Rey is one now, and there have been others in other "dark times" in the past.

Or maybe I'm just losing my mind, I dunno.

Edited by HamburgerTime on Feb 6th 2023 at 11:43:11 AM

That's just made up by salty people who are angry at Rey for redoing Anakin's accomplishments.

She's not a chosen one, she just brings balance to the force like Anakin did. But you get angry internet people claiming that Disney made her the real chosen one to stoke fan anger.

Observe:

Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 6th 2023 at 12:45:22 PM

Rey's a different kind of Chosen One, being part of the Force Dyad along with Ben Solo.

Anakin's victory is rendered pointless. The Rebels are rendered pointless. It's all for nothing because the Empire just comes back anyway, stronger than ever, and kills millions.

So when they win at the end of Rise of Skywalker, I'm just not convinced because it has clearly been shown that this New Republic isn't stable.

It survives a whopping ten years longer than the Empire. That's one year longer than the length of raising someone from K-8. The Old Republic. Oh, nothing special. Just 1000+ years.

What a ringing endorsement.

Not entirely pointless. It would have been worse if Anakin hadn't killed Palpatine at the end of ROTJ.

It's worth noting that The First Order is implied to be significantly weaker than The Empire. Essentially their goal is to rebuild the old Empire, which they fail at. They destroy The New Republic, yes, but they don't really gain power themselves.

The fact that the Galaxy is currently leaderless after all the governments are destroyed has all sorts of fascinating possibilities attached to it.

I'd actually love a post-sequel era set in a more divided galaxy, with local and regional polities everywhere, while there's at least one group trying to put together a galactic government again.

Basically Star Wars: Warring States.

It would also allow for a more... diverse faction roster, so to speak. Provided they get somebody on it who doesn't just wanna rehash Rebels vs Empire again.

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Feb 6th 2023 at 7:42:28 PM

Which in a way would be more a clean state, the republic is dead and so is the empire(thanks skywalkers) is new thing now

Yeah Star Wars warring states is what I personally want after the ST.

Because the other option is just making the NEW NEW Republic.

Oh, I totally want to see a movement looking to restore the Republic as well. It'd just be in a real uphill battle, especially after the last incarnation just went poof.

And even the New Republic had to deal with people wanting none of it - there was a new Separatist movement at one point as well, if I recall correctly. There'd probably a fair lot of systems etc looking to strike out on their own at that point.

A post-sequel era could actually show the galaxy not having a unified government for the first time in millenia.

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Feb 6th 2023 at 8:00:29 PM

I could see systems not wanting to join up with the Republic again. Albeit for less than noble reasons such as wanting to bring back slavery.

And honestly, that is an interesting topic, is it a good thing that the Galaxy should be under one government or should all the planets just strike out on their own?

The Republic failing twice would certainly sour a large amount of survivors against restoring it.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 6th 2023 at 2:07:58 PM

What I kind of want to see is a good old fashioned collection of political bodies. Each trying to one up the other.

Some democratic republics sitting in the inner and mid rims that try to restore a smaller republic with far fewer member states who try to form better societies. Maybe call them the Core Republics.

Some Imperial remnants with totalitarian regimes, ranging from brutal repressive warlords securing power with their weapons depots to more peaceful imperials who simply reject the democratic failings of Republics and embrace elements like aristocracy but don't go full genocide.

Some communist conclaves set up in the mid and outer rims ruled over by autocratic tyrants who have decided to abandon the other factions and who are run by alien species.

Some socialist republics trying to fight said conclaves and any organization that refuses to support them, adopting more liberal policies compared to the other nations.

A good old fashioned technocracy that brings us back to the Separatist days, complete with a functioning droid society. They could even be separatist worlds themeselves.

Hutt controlled cartels that rule over the outer rim and expansion regions, where piracy runs rampant and bounty hunters make livings.

And finally some traditional monarchies with long standing traditions of kings and queens who rule over their territory but rule justly and fairly, compared to their autocratic counterparts. Maybe throw in some "rightful king" scenarios.

And then throw in some Jedi running around trying to stop dark siders as they come along.

Maybe that isn't perfect, but a Star Wars: Game of Thrones would be pretty damn cool, especially as there should be a bunch of factions to work with.

I'd actually love to see some democratically-minded polities in the Outer Rim, to be honest.

The Outer Rim in particular always got the short end of the stick, be it Republic or Empire.

Heck, it's pretty much a plot point in The Mandalorian that the New Republic also struggled to enforce the law out there.

Seeing some Outer Rim systems band together to finally keep everyone else from screwing with them would be nice.

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Feb 6th 2023 at 8:17:14 PM

Maybe the Outer Rims can make their own galactic government after the ST.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 6th 2023 at 2:50:38 PM

The problem of course is that the Outer Rim worlds were for the longest time run by awful people.

It's telling that Boba Fett is one of the most reasonable and fair leaders Tatooine has ever had.

I find it weird that Book of Boba Fett has so many flashback sequences in that series.

While Obi Wan Kenobi is relatively devoid of flashbacks. It has two I think.

Of the two shows, Obi Wan Kenobi feels like it should have MORE flashbacks given that what most people wanted to see was Hayden and Ewan on the same screen together.

Instead, we got the Adventures of Princess Leia and the wacky Reva and this rebel subplot. Which... let's just say that that felt off.

Edited by Patar136 on Feb 6th 2023 at 11:56:21 AM

On the contrary, I think the flashbacks to the Prequels were enough indicative.

We know enough about Obi-Wan and Anakin that the one training scene was sufficient.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Feb 6th 2023 at 2:59:21 PM

Exactly.

I finally got around to reading (well, audiobooking) Brotherhood, and man oh man that was wonderful.

I was just thinking a few days ago that I wish the Neimoidians got more character, but the truth was I just hadn't experience it yet! The book is billed as an exploration of Anakin and Obi-Wan's relationship, but the truth is while it's a running theme there's a lot less of it in the story than there is exploration of racism, of extremism and radicalization, of neutrality (interesting, the story's take on neutrality is not quite opposed to The Clone Wars', but it is definitely quite opposite), and - I think most of all - it's a criticism of A Million Is a Statistic and the means in which the regular person ceases to exist in times of crisis - both victims (who become statistics) and "enemies" (who become stereotypes).

A lot of it is that good ol' Obi-Wan detective story I keep saying I wanted more of after AOTC's best subplot did that. Though that isn't to say the examination of Obi-Wan and Anakin's relationship isn't there, but it's more because the two characters' personal roles in the story focus heavily on how they became the people they are today through that relationship. The two of them don't actually share all that much screentime (or page-time, I guess) together.

That's actually the thing I took away from that series - in the end Boba Fett doesn't want to be a crime boss as much as he wants to be a leader - he basically became Tatooine's feudal lord. He's even called a daimyo.

I actually liked that angle and wish they had put more time into that aspect.

Edited by DrunkenNordmann on Feb 7th 2023 at 9:03:48 PM

It's a sign of how bad things were on Tatooine for the longest time that feudalism is a step up.