The Head of the Hydra
Alas shame Diggle never got that lantern ring.
If only WB wasn’t so restrictive with its embargoes.
Remember when Arrow set-up Harley Quinn appearing only to pull back when WB said no?
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Foreign Troper
I mean, I'm not gonna act as if the Verse was perfect. But whatever it's faults, it cannot be understated how revolutionary it was.
While the MCU was the first to do the "interconnected Universe" thing on the big screen, the Arrowverse did it first on TV.
I still remember how huge the build-up and hype for Crisis on Infite Earths was.
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Raven Wilder
It's also worth noting just how rare superhero TV shows were before Arrow came along. I don't mean "based on superheroes, but with the key markers of the genre filed off (like Smallville or Heroes)". I mean, it's about a guy in a colorful costume who goes out and fights crime on a regular basis.
If you discount short-lived flops like The Cape, the last time such a show was successful on American prime-time TV ... I think it'd be that Lois & Clark show from back in the 90's.
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Foreign Troper
Yeah, while Arrow didn't invent Superhero TV, it sure as hell modernized and codified it.
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Foreign Troper
So, according to David Ramsey, Justice U is still being developed
https://screenrant.com/justice-u-update-given-arrowverses-john-diggle/
Foreign Troper
Ramsey promises good stuff for Justice U
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Raven Wilder
That's surprising.
"It takes an idiot to do cool things, that's why it's cool" - Haruhara Haruko
Some Wanderer
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Ditto. I guess they had already signed whatever contracts needed to be signed so they can't get out of at least making one season.
Nexstar would need at least some scripted stuff to get people to keep tuning in as well.
Searching for meaning in meanings
Hi, I’m just going to come right out and ask, does anyone have any good pictures of the Neo-Nazi soldiers from the Earth-X stories, including the animated versions from the “Freedom Fighters: The Ray” animated series? Because frankly, every single time that I try to search for some, the internet mainly just gives me pictures of the Earth-X counterparts of the heroes, but never of the soldiers that make it feel like their an actual army
Similarly, does anyone have any good shots of the soldiers that were under Vandal Savage’s command in the “Legends of Tomorrow” tv series?
Spirit of Battle
https://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Main_Page
The internet movie firearms database has pictures of the generic soldiers from those shows. You just have to look up the season.
You and I remember Budapest very differently
I've read information that states "Superman & Lois" has now been categorized as a Elseworlds series, and not part of the Arrowverse. I assume until something official is said the series will remain categorized as an Arrowverse series on this wiki?
Foreign Troper
I mean, it obviously takes place in that Multiverse, just not Earth-Prime.
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It certainly has a strange series; from what I can piece together it was set in the main Arrowverse universe but then they backtracked hard. I think the creators claimed it was meant to be ambiguous or a different universe from the start but if you look at everything (Crisis changing Superman's family into the setup seen in the show, Diggle's first appearance) it really seems like it was meant to be main-universe at first. They use the separate universe for storytelling potential, but it is pretty awkward at points; I wonder if they separated it from a branding perspective because they want it to continue longer and the Arrowverse as a whole seems to be finishing.
Yeah, it was definitely sold as an Arrowverse show at first. There was a whole explanation in-universe about how the reason Superman wasn't around to help Supergirl with the crazy stuff she was going through in her current season is because he was leaving to do the things that set the groundwork for Superman and Lois, and there were a lot of intended ties between them at first.
Much like Agents of Shield over at Marvel, however, eventually the show separated from that idea and became its own distinct thing.
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Raven Wilder
Plus, they were planning to do a crossover with Batwoman until Covid put the kibosh on it.
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So it remains designated Arrowverse for now?
Foreign Troper
Don't see why it shouldn't.
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King of Anime
Especially since despite what creators might claim even as of season three's first episode it's still being treated as part of the Arrowverse. Gotham Knights on the other hand is almost certainly its own universe.
Foreign Troper
We all knew this was coming: Justice U scrapped
https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/news/powerpuff-justice-u-zorro-jake-chang-officially-scrapped-the-cw/
It's been a hell of a ride.
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