The general Arrowverse thread

Holy crud. Crisis on Infinite Earths is digging deep. What's next, someone from Titans or Doom Patrol?

I really hope they do bring in someone from those shows, even for only a cameo.

God, if Cliff Steele shows up at once point and goes, "What the [bleep]?" I will lose it.

And according to a new report, the Titans are going to appear in a cameo. Whether or not this person is reliable, I have no idea.

The problem with these shows is if you don't watch them immediately they start to pile up on your Tivo awful quick.

Robert Wuhl seems to be in too

https://batman-news.com/2019/10/13/robert-wuhl-and-justin-hartley-reportedly-join-crisis-on-infinite-earths/

I think out of all of those I'm most excited to see Lucifer.

Although I doubt it'll be too long.

So both Ollie and Barry believe they're going to die in the Crisis. By narrative law that means it's going to be neither of them, which begs the question of who will take the bullet.

Supergirl is the one who actually dies.

But ha-hahahahahahaha hooo no. No. No that's not going to happen. I suspect it will be one of the 3 Supermen we currently have floating around.

Not only would a Super-sacrifice fit with DC Rebirth (a Superman dies and another takes his place) what else would they do with a Kingdom Come/Smallville/Prime Superman?

Edited by Soble on Oct 15th 2019 at 9:15:17 AM

I wonder if the deal Oliver made with the monitor is to be his multiversal agent as such?

We know he agreed to something to keep Barry and Kara from dying, and that while offering up his own life was possible, I suspected he couldn't offer his single life for both of them.

But what if he agreed to be the monitor's secret agent in preparation for the crisis? Maybe that would even things out.

Oliver is definitely going to die.

Barry definitely isn't. The Monitor only said that "the Flash" must die. I suspect either Jay Garrick or Barry from Earth-90 will sacrifice themselves.

Searching for info on Earth-90 Barry somehow led me to the Big Belly Burger trailer.

Our first look at the Anti-Monitor.

And I'll never get over how Flash's Season 3 trailer teased Flashpoint, and looked amazing, and we were so excited for the start of a season taking place in an alternate timeline.

This season looked like it was going to be fire.

Arguably the worst season of the show.

Meanwhile Arrow's coming off a god-awful fourth season and releases this trailer - starts off reminding us how Laurel was brutally killed off, some random no-name vigilantes (besides Terrific), more Felicity, some more flashbacks with shirtless Oliver, some random quotes from Oliver, a random scarecrow villain, and some really fast shots of Team Arrow before we get, behold, another Dark Archer.

This season looked destined to fail.

Probably the best season of the show since the first.

While I agree that Flash Season 3 was lacking, I think Season 4 was even worse.

But yeah, Arrow Season 5 was epic, in my personal list its even the best Season, slightly ahead of Season 2.

Yeah, at least Flash Season 3 was broken up into two segments — Alchemy and then Savitar. Season 4 was just a slog to even get through. Season 5 was much better, because it had both Nora and the Reverse Flash storyline, but it was dragged down by how lame Cicada was.

Edited by alliterator on Oct 16th 2019 at 1:07:59 AM

Man its amazing how I lost track of this franchise during season 2 of Arrow when Oliver first meets Slade in the modern day cause of laziness.

Luckily all the shows are on Netflix so catch-up is possible if time-consuming.

Poor you.

I was lucky to get introduced to the Arrowverse when Arrow Season 3 and Flash Season 1 were still airing. It was quite easy to catch up, even chronologically.

Now?

Edited by Forenperser on Oct 16th 2019 at 10:39:18 AM

Honestly I don't even bother watching all the shows. Just Flash, Black Lightning, and now Batwoman. I was watching Supergirl but I've heard mixed things about the show post season one (Well generally I hear it gets bad after season one but people can't seem to agree on if it's season two that starts the decline or season three. People I see online say season two but people I know in real life say season three.) so I've been avoiding it and I'm just too behind on Legends to catch up. Was never interested in Arrow so I only watch the crossover episodes of that.

Edited by Chariot on Oct 16th 2019 at 6:09:27 AM

I honestly have to force myself to watch Supergirl. It's like "science fanfiction". I don't expect superhero show to be scientifically accurate, but Supergirl went way too far.

Supergirl Season 4 is actually one of it's best seasons.

And in casting news: Stephen Lobo has been cast as Jim Corrigan/the Spectre.

They should have made him hit the gym and cast him as Lobo.

Sad they didn't get the guy from Constantine back.

Supergirl is pretty good in the first season but its feminist themes/political left-ness are far more blatant in the second. If that's not your cup of tea I would definitely say Season 2 was the decline - add in some less than ideal depictions of characters like Jimmy Olsen, Mxyptlik, and Mon-El ^note and IIRC the show was being filmed in a different location that that resulted in a couple of characters getting dropped, and it was a make it-or-break it season.

I would definitely say you shouldn't look for a consensus among "people" and just watch it yourself though.

Edited by Soble on Oct 17th 2019 at 5:56:15 AM

To throw in a perspective from the other side:
I've thus far watched the first... three seasons, I think, of Supergirl. And I absolutely love the show.

Kara is a great character—I think that her actor plays her very well—I really like the character-relationships, and the special-effects—while not always perfect—actually do a pretty good job of portraying Kryptonian powers, I feel.

It is a very cheesy show, it should perhaps be noted—but I don't have a problem with its particular cheesiness, so I'm happy.

Conversely, it's Flash, not Supergirl, that affects me this way. While I don't have to force myself to watch it—I still enjoy the show—I do think that I enjoy it better when I mentally put aside their explanations for various things.

I don't think that I've often had that issue with Supergirl.

Edited by ArsThaumaturgis on Oct 17th 2019 at 4:16:10 PM