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Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
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#1876: Sep 12th 2019 at 1:41:09 PM

Stop bullying Berdie IS.

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Rationalinsanity from Halifax, Canada Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
#1878: Sep 12th 2019 at 2:22:49 PM

Its sad that the most reliable way to listen to this game's OST is to listen to covers. Nintendo doesn't purge those.

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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#1879: Sep 12th 2019 at 3:35:16 PM

There are definitely more effects to Crests than we necessarily see in gameplay. Dimitri's Super Strength and Jeralt being Long-Lived both speak to that.
Catherine and Lysithea's supports have them speculating that the Crest of Charon can influence the weather.

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#1880: Sep 12th 2019 at 5:18:51 PM

Likely makes lightning storms happen if you factor in its a Lightning Dragon.

Thus Thunderbrand.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Sep 12th 2019 at 5:19:02 AM

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IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014
#1881: Sep 12th 2019 at 6:23:32 PM

Given Linhardt's Crest of Cethleann, I like to imagine that it confers a love of fish.

Edited by IniuriaTalis on Sep 12th 2019 at 9:24:01 AM

RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#1882: Sep 12th 2019 at 11:35:39 PM

the Crest of Gloucester could be used for medical purposes.

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DemonDamian Creating a new humanity Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
Creating a new humanity
#1883: Sep 13th 2019 at 1:17:30 PM

Most of these are actually covered by Lindhardt's A support. It's possible that some crests, like Blaiddyd or Dominic, have uses in construction or engineering, while the likes of Lamine and Cethleann could make advances in the medical field, but then you have crests like Seiros or Riegan, where their intended use is only for combat.

There may be some effects that don't affect gameplay so they're not mentioned (like Charon maybe manipulating the weather), but overall, crests were made as weapons, and that's what they're designed to do first. If Hanneman truly wishes to make tools to replace crests, he needs to think outside the box about their uses beyond war.

RedRob Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number
#1884: Sep 13th 2019 at 1:40:20 PM

Here's some more analysis. Posting the first two more for their comment sections than the actual posts.

https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/d27amx/an_linebyline_analysis_of_the_questions_answers/

https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/d21lr9/the_church_and_the_war_of_eagle_and_lion_spoilers/

https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/cxduoi/the_final_be_cutsceneand_why_its_the_most/ (Don't think this was posted before)

Got several more in store, and looking at them, they all some to be about Edelgard or related to her route. Guess that's what happens when you're a morally grey protagonist.

So here's an old thread about people's issues with Blue Lions. Look in the comment section, the post itself is just OP thinking there should be more discussion on other routes besides BE, and that he finds the BL route to be overhyped. https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/cx1lo9/people_who_played_blue_lions_and_didnt_like/

I'm not sure I seen analysis of other characters except for some ones on the character endings, but I'm not sure those are all that interesting. But I'll see what else I can dig up.

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#1885: Sep 13th 2019 at 1:57:18 PM

Its kinda amusing how they overembellish how Edelgard is somehow the only one who supports Byleth and that Byleth has never made a choice of their own. When Byleth of their own will chooses to support a House at the beginning of the game and aid Dimitri as his support and even actively Mercy Kill Randolph of his own volition, Byleth choosing Rhea of their own volition in said scene choice between her and Edelgard even leads into her S Support where she sees them as their own person, and the framing of as friends with Claude who can carry on and bring each other together to do what they couldn't alone(literally showing how Byleth can't beat Nemesis without Claude sniping him in a trick).

Dimitri is the one where it's definitely more one sided, but it's portrayed as Byleth growing enough to support him when he needs it.

The fact Sothis has to chastise Byleth for choosing to be a child and sleep over going to those who need them is what gets them to continue to move. Which shows thaf without the Gods to give that "push" Byleth will chose to sleep forever than reach out their hand.

You'd think with all the stanning they'd at least notice all the hand symbolism and light/shadow framing with Claude and Dimitri.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Sep 13th 2019 at 2:03:13 AM

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#1886: Sep 13th 2019 at 4:12:47 PM

I made sure to look over the Book of Seiros again, and yeah Rhea never created the Crest System. Humanity did. It even condemns their descendants for craving the power of Crests after humanity made said System because they wanted their ancestors power for themselves.

The problems Edelgard should have is that the Church did nothing to stop it when they abused it. So the problems with crests are the direct result of humanities evil than "Lizard People Conspiarcy" to rule humanity through Crests.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Sep 13th 2019 at 4:14:37 AM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#1887: Sep 13th 2019 at 5:28:51 PM

Mayhap's those who Slither poked her in that direction a little.

After all, it benefits them for Edelgard to hate Rhea. Hell, I'd say the entire game is because everyone (Ed especially) are fighting the wrong people.

The lone difference is Edelgard does know the Slitherers are enemies, she just fails to realize they are THE enemy.

Though since they kinda have her over a barrel with the nukes, that can't be helped.

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DemonDamian Creating a new humanity Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
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#1888: Sep 13th 2019 at 6:12:58 PM

I'm personally still waiting for someone that supports Edelgard's conquest but doesn't see her as a waifu. Like, even people defending Rhea admit she's a screwup, but suggest the same about Edelgard and you get a ton of responses about how she's justified.

Because she's a main character and always at least a little sympathetic, people are more likely to whitewash her and demonize her opponent, Rhea. It's just predominantly mixed with people wanting to S-rank her.

Dimitri and Claude too, but at least I've seen people who seem to just like them as lords rather than as husbandos.

Yumil Mad Archivist Since: Mar, 2016
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#1889: Sep 13th 2019 at 6:26:15 PM

[up]okay, I'm here, you can stop searching now. Then again, I'm not overtly antagonistic to rhea either.

Edited by Yumil on Sep 13th 2019 at 3:28:11 PM

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deludedmusings Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#1890: Sep 13th 2019 at 7:47:35 PM

Yeah, I'm here as well. And honestly, the idea people don't whitewash Rhea is pretty hilarious.

The biggest problem with fandoms is "I like this character, therefore I will justify their actions."

Thebrawlbro Since: Aug, 2013
#1891: Sep 13th 2019 at 7:52:35 PM

I can sympathize with Edelgards motive, she's just going after the completely wrong person, instead of the actual group who are the cause of her problems.

RangerJackWalker Since: Sep, 2010
#1892: Sep 13th 2019 at 8:54:09 PM

The idea that Edelgard doesn't know the slithers are her enemy is just stupid.

Weirdguy149 The King Without a Kingdom from Lumiose City under development Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
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#1893: Sep 13th 2019 at 8:57:21 PM

I'm in a rather unique position in that I think both of them are in the wrong for going after each other when there's a dubstep Satan cult right under their noses.

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#1894: Sep 13th 2019 at 9:03:13 PM

I think they mean more how their actions are what actually created the Crest System and not the Church itself, since the Church didn't condone it coming into being.

And Wilhelm couldn't pass that down because he was dead when it happens and his son took his place if I remember right in fighting Nemesis.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Sep 13th 2019 at 9:03:55 AM

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Tenzen12 Red Lagoon Since: Jul, 2011
Red Lagoon
#1895: Sep 13th 2019 at 9:07:00 PM

5x[up]I don't think that's right. Rhea doesn't get waifu treatment. For first part game she is portraited as shady, ruthless and little creepy. It's actually understanding whole picture that allows people to change mind on her and hers actions.

Edited by Tenzen12 on Sep 13th 2019 at 6:08:39 PM

deludedmusings Since: Jan, 2017 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#1896: Sep 13th 2019 at 9:09:08 PM

See what I mean?

It's the reason this thread is constantly rehashing the same arguments with arguments in a circle.

And yeah, liking both Edelgard and Rhea leaves one in a weird position. I think they are both fascinating characters.

Edited by deludedmusings on Sep 14th 2019 at 2:12:28 AM

RangerJackWalker Since: Sep, 2010
#1897: Sep 13th 2019 at 9:24:51 PM

No, I like Rhea too. But her whole character arc is accepting that she and the church are at least partially responsible for Fodlan's woes and starting to atone for it.

Sterok Since: Apr, 2012
#1898: Sep 13th 2019 at 9:26:43 PM

They're both interesting characters, but I find Edelgard treads far too close to dictator chummy with obviously evil cult territory for me to support her while Rhea strikes a better balance of her own selfish desires and policies hurting Fodlan vs doing what she can to help the people without ruling them with an iron grip.

RedHunter543 Team Rocket Boss. Since: Jan, 2018 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#1899: Sep 13th 2019 at 9:29:05 PM

I like Rhea's character but not her personality, that's why I personally prefer her as a villain. If that makes sense.

We may be rehashing the same argument, but here goes, I like Edelgard besides waifu, she's tied with Claude as my favorite lord in the entire series, Like omega says, Claude and Byleth are great partners. But on to Edelgard, I agree with her beliefs and goals for the continent, yeah starting a war might be a bit much, but it's good writing when you can actually get behind her reasons. The Crest system may have been created by humans, but it is the church that propagates it, hell, the Slithers would not have the influence they had if Rhea buried the system. I like how CF flips the entire traditional FE formula around its head. And just because I put Claude and Edelgard on the top spot, does not mean I put other lords down, Dimitri takes the second top lord in the series for me.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Sep 13th 2019 at 9:37:37 AM

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Tenzen12 Red Lagoon Since: Jul, 2011
Red Lagoon
#1900: Sep 13th 2019 at 9:34:50 PM

Obviously she is "at least partially responsible for Fodlan woes". Question is:were her decisions wrong given circumstances and time period and how exactly do you quantify "indirect responsibility"

Should she continue war war with the elites after Nemesis fallen? Should she send Knights against Loog? Should she involve herself with country policies. If she did any of those Fodlan would look different today so yes she is responsible, but would it be better place?

It's because it's impossible quantify butterfly effect it is necessary judge people by their actions and policies.

Edited by Tenzen12 on Sep 13th 2019 at 6:44:09 PM


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