Fire Emblem Three Houses (Spoiler Thread)

Oh boy, gender politics are something i'd rather avoid since i barely know anything but i have met non-binary people and i don't think Byleth is non-binary, and it's more of the cost cutting measures in VA. Kotaku's articles are known to be reaching when they want to push a certain idea such as representation. That being said, it's easy to see Byleth as nonbinary considering their origins. But honestly, it's more easier to draw parallels with someone with mental disorders like depression or autism considering their lack of emotions and how the implication that Byleth does love Jeralt but has a hard time expressing it.

Also like some people say, leading an army and leading a continent are two different things.

Does Byleth know how to tax people fairly, pass legislation, and handle both the commoner and nobility's needs?

Their sycophants say yes.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Aug 1st 2020 at 7:09:21 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA0lI6zgvz0

The Voice actors celebrating the one year anniversary of Three Houses.

If the one year anniversary is this fun, then the 5 year anniversary will be to die for.

Oh Goddess, Xanthe Huynh is just as adorable as Marianne.

Mark Whitten looks just like Seteth in real life.

Had a random thought while playing today.

It's bad enough that Jeralt just straight up has no supports so you know from the start that he is doomed.

But why is he the one introducing the gifts / lost items mechanics when he is among the few characters who don't even have those options? You could have literally any other character save for Tomas and Jeritza handle this without raising any unnecessary suspicions.

He's had a hard day and needs his drink NOW.

I mean, yeah, that works.

But really, I mean like, is it just a random characterization moment or a leftover from him being intended as playable at some point.

Probably the former I'd guess.

I think it's because he can't normally be given gifts or lost items that he's the one who introduces them, it's his only opportunity to get some.

Speaking of our favorite former captain of the knights of Seiros, i gotta say he was the best Fire Emblem dad in this series.

Apparently he was usually drunk, but that only comes up in a support with Alois after he already died for some reason, and I guess that one lost item.

Greil was a former Captain of the Knights of Seiros!?

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Aug 3rd 2020 at 3:49:13 AM

Greil only lasted like 3 hours into the game.

Jeralt lasted 19 hours.

That's gotta be a record.

Oh right, Eliwood.

EDIT: So here's another angle i've been considering with Edelgard, think she's had a bit of a Go Mad from the Revelation? Let's see, according to the truth she's been told, the founding father of the Empire was a willing puppet to Seiros and sold out humanity which created the terrible crest system that also lead to her torture and death of siblings, her uncle is a horrible albino who approved of her experimentation, the Church controls all of Fodlan, and she's going to die in a couple of years give or take.

Like in private both Edelgard and Hubert call Arundel her uncle despite knowing he's actually Thales so i assume Thales kept up some facade, or he's been Arundel the entire time and stopped donating out of ego once Edelgard was complete.

Her whole reaction to learning these things are glossed over compared to Dimitri's backstory. Like it's super weird we don't see how she learned this but we get a scene where totally straight Rodrigue and Lambert talk about the trip to Duscar.

One weird thing in AM is that Edelgard is less a character and more a plot device in some regards.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Aug 3rd 2020 at 4:21:33 AM

Yet Greil is more fleshed out and the game doesnt even let you take your dad to tea or have mini events to hang out with him. Not even for something he actually does like to do like fishing.

Or my favorite, his(And Sothis) total exclusion from a DLC rhat involves his wifes corpse.

Man, i would have loved to see Jeralt's reaction to Rhea hiding his wife's corpse and holding a fake funeral.

Like there's a shit ton of missed opportunities between Rhea and Jeralt. Like the clear unresolved sexual tension between them.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Aug 3rd 2020 at 4:23:40 AM

I wouldn't call her a plot device, especially since AM also reveals some of her (happier) past via Dimitri (complete with flashbacks, which is something CF didn't even bother with...).

But it does annoy me that Dimitri's backstory is built into the plot of his route, while El's has to be fished out of her supports and doesn't really explain some of the more interesting points.

Speaking off, i ask the tropers here, why does Byleth come off as better in terms of Character relations with Dimitri over Edelgard?

Do keep the bashing to a minimum please.

The reason why Edelgard comes off as a plot device on AM is because her conflict with Dimitri is so forced as opposed to CF. Edelgard can't even remember him, Dimitri is mostly angry at her for reasons she wasn't even responsible for, Edelgard acts coy in the parley scene for no reason other than to keep the plot going and because you have to play CF to get the full story.

Like Edelgard is a motivation for Dimitri in that sense than a character. At least in CF, Dimitri's motive aside from revenge is to defend his nation and Edelgard wants conquest so that's why they fight. Not stupid soap opera reasons.

Besides, after playing Sacred Stones, i'm convinced that the devs give more attention to the male lord routes rather than the lady routes. Ephraim gets all the cool scenes like kicking the ass of Grado and it's zombie Emperor, gets to have a more personal confrontation with Lyon ETC. While Eirika's stuff is less compelling and gets played like a cheap violin by Formotiis.

So despite supposedly being an important character, Edelgard gets less attention from the writers than Dimitri's route has more budget and production values than SS.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Aug 3rd 2020 at 4:42:57 AM

Byleth will actually do th ings independent of us when they disagree with Dimitri, such as killing Randolph, and attempt to guide him to be the person he should be.

Aka what Sothis is meant to do by leading Fodlan, by guiding others to find their path. It also continues the trend set of Byleth doing something on their own from when Rhea sought to sacrifice herself and Byleths response was to save her. It fits with their role as a teacher as well since it serves to show then guiding Dimitri ever onwards.

Yeah, that's fair.

Like in my novelization of CF that i will never post ever. I had my Byleth play the token good teammate to a hilt, swearing to Edelgard that if the Empire kills innocents and demonic beasts in the upcoming war he will personally cut her and Hubert down, and making sure Edelgard treats the conquered with dignity, ensure people across Fodlan are fed despite the war, and preventing war crimes.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Aug 3rd 2020 at 4:43:43 AM

Dimitri hating El for the wrong reasons is kind of the whole point, though. Remember, AM still mostly follows the base plot of SS where the goal is to stop the war. The result is essentially the plot (via Felix, mainly) telling Dimitri to shut up already because everyone wants El dead since she, y'know, started a war. Which is a more sane reason to fight her. Because of what she is doing now, not what she may or may not have done nearly a decade ago.

Even if it's the whole point it doesn't make it more compelling.

Like when i first played, i thought Dimitri was further pushed to the edge because of the damage that Edelgard, Cornelia and the war did to his country but nope only the tragedy matters.

Like what i find compelling between Dimitri and Edelgard is their differing beliefs, Dimitri doesn't think a paradise is worth the blood while Edelgard does, ETC. Both are exposed to tragedy and both find a different meaning in it.

Like Edelgard and Dimitri's boss dialogue in CF despite the meme about Edelgard's response is legit one of my favorite boss dialogues in the game.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Aug 3rd 2020 at 4:55:22 AM

Notice how the key difference on CF is that Dimitri didn't lose his country? On AM, it's implied that he basically thought he lost it for good and no one wants him back since the official info is that he murdered his uncle, and the unofficial info is that he fled the country and left Cornelia to rule it. Like, he is genuinely shocked in that scene after the Fhirdiad map.

That's more or less why he focuses on revenge, to him it's like the last excuse to stay alive since he lost everything else.

Ehh fair point.

I do remember how shocked he was when people were cheering for his return.

Red... mate, buddy, friendo.

Listen... for as bad as all that is, does it truly compare to the travesty of Fates having five magical weapons (two for Nohr, two for Hoshido, one for Valla), and ALL BUT ONE (maybe) go to the princes? The princesses get nothing save Yato (50% of the time) and that magic necklace, but that’s the Vallite royals as the Nohrian and Hoshidan princesses never get anything. Hell, ALL FOUR of the princes WILL have sons (yes, Forrest is a cisgender male FIGHT ME), who inherit their weapons in the DLC “Heirs of Fate”, which makes it WORSE... I mean gee, they could at LEAST have made Ryoma/Xander/Takumi have a girl instead of a boy (if they wouldn’t make any of the main royals the opposite sex, that is); things would’ve been more interesting then.

EDIT: To each - as they say - their own; I actually think it’s interesting how Edelgard considers Dimitri in the manner of an Unknown Rival, with him being less of a concern to her than Rhea (CF), Byleth (VW/AM/SS) or Thales (all routes), up until the war reaches its final stages and he’s both retaken Fhirdiad AND joined his forces with the Alliance’s. Then after the parlay (which I still like and will defend) predictably ends with neither side ideologically changed, she regains a crucial piece of herself both physical (sidenote: I honestly adore how clever a Chekhov's Gun the dagger is) and metaphorical (the realisation of who that Kingdom boy she once loved was), and in a way finally appreciates the meaning behind their conflict and how it will inevitably end with them - not her and Rhea or her and TWS, but El and Dimitri.

Edited by CaellachTigerEye on Aug 4th 2020 at 12:17:56 AM

Oh shit yeah, that's also a thing.

Fuck, i legit forgot about that.

It's so sad, that Hinoka is most relevant on Conquest.

Honestly, the best thing to happen for a female lord is to be a player Avatar. That way the writers HAVE to treat you equally because you are sharing with a male MC and they are too lazy to change much.

Thanks Corn.

And speaking of Eirika, i find it funny that Joshua sort of upstages her on her own route. You know what i'm talking about.

Takumi as the antagonistic younger sister is an interesting idea actually.

Also yes, Forrest is a guy and he identifies as one.

I refuse to say CIS-gender because i keep thinking of the Confederacy of independent systems from Star Wars.

I can't help it.

As for your view on Dimitri and Edelgard's unknown rival dynamic, i can see that certainly. One of my favorite dynamics is a villain severely underestimating a newly arrived and inexperienced hero, eventually paying for it and by the end of it all sees them as worthy of respect, like Big Boss and Solid Snake, Joker and Batman(sometimes.) and Zenos and the Warrior of Light.

So from that angle, i can actually appreciate Edelgard and Dimitri's growth. Cool.

Edited by RedHunter543 on Aug 3rd 2020 at 7:21:06 AM

Edelgard is an important figure in the plot, regardless of route. Dimitri gets a bridge dropped on him in half the routes, and Claude tends to unceremoniously disappear.