This does seem to be why they switched the colors of Spring(Flower) and Summer(Wind).
Green has a lot of symbolism with renewal life and growth, thus eingnthe color of spring. Also Gold has ties to Light which represents hope,etc.
While Red is a much more intense color emobdying war, danger, strength, power, determination
Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.Blue meanwhile represents trust, loyalty and faith, as well as sadness and despair. Silver represents sophistication and grace, as well as being associated with eloquence. Grey is considered emotionless, dull and dirty, but also formal and timeless. Grey also is associated with loss.
How much they represent the Houses/routes, and how much of the grey/silver applies to SS/the Church of Seiros and how much applies to CS/the Ashen Wolves is up to interpretation.
Edited by DemonDamian on Mar 25th 2020 at 2:43:36 PM
Grey being loss is pretty fitting, because at the end of my SS run, i accidentally ensured Rhea would be dead along with Edelgard and Dimitri. Which is basically VW now.
We are sure that Claude survived SS right?
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.Yes.
All routes. Even when we are given the choice to kill him.
Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.Edelgard: Well, the leader of the Alliance is dead.
Claude: Sup.
Edelgard: But... HOW?
Claude: Body double.
Edelgard: Who could you get that looks exactly like you and has the same vocal patterns?
Claude: Lorenz has some great acting chops. Too bad you chopped his head off.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Mar 25th 2020 at 1:44:12 AM
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.And then you have people who find Claude boring for being too much of a nice guy.
It's interesting how the devs admit that Azure Moon basically went into a different direction than originally planned, since fans tend to specifically like it for Dimitri's arc. Also, Crimson Flower being about fighting for your beliefs makes sense, except now I wonder why they felt the need to further justify El's actions by making Rhea snap...
Kusakihara outright calls Silver Snow the Church route... which makes me wish Seteth and Flayn were exclusive to it instead of being free units handed to you on every path except Crimson Flower.
Koi seji to / mitarashigawa ni / seshi misogi / kami wa ukezu zo / nari ni kerashi mo (KKS #501)My boy Hubert here to inspire you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGP1uMZvLrs
Give credit to Edelgard, she wasn't the least intimidated by Rhea's outburst at the holy tomb. That's how devoted she is to her ideals.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Mar 25th 2020 at 1:48:54 AM
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.Flayn being on all routes sans CF is natural. She doesn't want her life to revolve around the Church. She wants to fall in love and live her life, and even when marrying Pope Byleth she still chooses to work separately from if.
x3 Funny enough, it makes me think he decides to have Almyra be as distant from Fodlan as possible, and worsen tensions between borh. After all, willing to kill him even when he surrenders means he has no reason to think they can be trusted.
Edited by OmegaRadiance on Mar 25th 2020 at 2:00:39 AM
Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.Flayn does become something of a leader in SS which is something i can appreciate.
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.I don't think "Claude survives on all routes" is meant to be read as "claude survives even if you decide to kill him". I tihnk it's intended more as "Claude can survive on all routes".
Wait was Omega being serious? I thought he was just hyping Claude up as a memetic badass.
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.I was humoring the idea of him living in that specific situation. And they explicitly mention his willingness to stop fighting when things become a danger to his life IS why he survives all routes including on SS. which they note was such a bloodbath it killed countless on each side, severely injured Edelgard, and got Dimitri killed and became a spooky ghost ornwhatever magic was going on with him..
It's why he's survived all his life, and this living to fight another day is a victory.
Edited by OmegaRadiance on Mar 25th 2020 at 3:07:38 AM
Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.Claude: He who lives today, gets to gloat about it another day.
So i've been tinkering with the idea of a dark multiverse, so what are your guesses if in the CF route, Rhea manages to rip Byleth's heart out instead of Byleth going into a coma? At the end of Chapter 12?
Edited by RedHunter543 on Mar 25th 2020 at 3:17:56 AM
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.Its what lead them all to Byleth as well. Otherwise Byleth would still be a mercenary with Jeralt.
Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.According to the translation I've read on Serenes Forest, the team refers to SS as the "empire route" but acknowledges that the playerbase is calling it the church route.
Why would the route being about rejecting the Empire be called the Empire route?
Is it because the Church is the real Empire?
Edited by RedHunter543 on Mar 25th 2020 at 4:21:02 AM
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.Okay, now Claude is somehow even more hilarious. The guy apparently literally just changed two syllables of his name to different ones from the same groups and called it a day. And I thought Cassandra > Catherine was bad.
Yeah, I guess calling Silver Snow the Empire route feels kind of weird? since the Emperor herself betrays you. Also not helping is that it ditches the Black Eagles banner for the Crest of Flames one for the save files. (And here I thought Crimson Flower was meant to be a "wow, they're the good guys for once" plot twist.)
Also, this confirms that Silver Snow's difficulty is by design, which... seriously, what were they thinking, with all of the marketing push for the Black Eagles? What about new players? Maybe Crimson Flower being easily accessible is a good thing, after all.
Edited by YnK on Mar 25th 2020 at 4:46:21 AM
Koi seji to / mitarashigawa ni / seshi misogi / kami wa ukezu zo / nari ni kerashi mo (KKS #501)One of the devs did state cruelty was needed sometimes in telling a story. Silver Snow was designed to be the first route, but out of all the routes, it sucks. The only positive is marrying Rhea, but that's certainly not a positive for me. No banjos here.
But the Edelgard vs Byleth cutscene was pretty damn cool.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Mar 25th 2020 at 4:55:44 AM
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.Telling a story, fine. Punishing the player for choosing to hang out with students instead of training Byleth's skills? Not fine.
...Actually, let's also talk about marrying Rhea, because before the updates getting her supports was a mess, and the game doesn't warn you that her S-rank is only available on one route.
Koi seji to / mitarashigawa ni / seshi misogi / kami wa ukezu zo / nari ni kerashi mo (KKS #501)On one hand i can appreciate Rhea acknowledging her mistakes and flaws, and vowing to move forward with Byleth. Problem is, it's locked behind a romance ending, and we don't see much development from her, like her growth is entirely-off camera. Her what have i done moment. should have been a mandatory scene, and Rhea is a no yay in general from me as a romance interest.
Also i'm still pissed Rhea hints about Byleth's powers and heritage RIGHT BEFORE GOING TO SHAMBHALA. That was the most bizarre moment from her. There was a month to tell Byleth about their identity, but NOPE! Kill my enemies first and then i'll tell you.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Mar 25th 2020 at 5:18:14 AM
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.I think the point of her having a romantic ending was to show that she finally acknowledges Byleth as their own person and not as Sothis's vessel/reincarnation. But yeah, it's awkward, and she doesn't get nearly enough screentime to even justify any romance happening at all.
And this whole game runs on people not telling each other stuff until it's too late.
Koi seji to / mitarashigawa ni / seshi misogi / kami wa ukezu zo / nari ni kerashi mo (KKS #501)I think they should have changed the whole Rhea gives exposition to BEFORE Shambhala. Makes more sense, she has a whole month to tell Byleth and Claude about the plot.
I mean, i see Rhea as seeing Byleth as a soul jar for Sothis but yeah, not much romantic vibes there. It would help a lot if she stopped calling Byleth dear child. That's something your mom says, not prospective love interest.
Edited by RedHunter543 on Mar 25th 2020 at 5:54:41 AM
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult."she has a whole month to tell Byleth and Claude about the plot" - right, this here is the general issue with the plot clashing with the game's chapter-based format. Chapter 6 says hi...
Speaking of Chapter 6: now that I think about it, its mission does serve as a warning to not rely on your house leader too much. Huh. Okay. Interesting. That's definitely a lesson that only really matters if you end up on Silver Snow.
Koi seji to / mitarashigawa ni / seshi misogi / kami wa ukezu zo / nari ni kerashi mo (KKS #501)Pretty funny that Jeritza had Flayn hostage for a month and she doesn't die of starvation or something. Guess when he's not being the Death Knight, he's a polite host.
I'll teach you a lesson about just how cruel the world can be. That's my job, as an adult.
Claude was subjected to racism from both of his parent's nations, and his response is to try and get everyone to be friends.
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