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Redmess Redmess from Netherlands
Redmess
Jan 22nd 2019 at 1:03:10 PM

I have to agree, making it free to play seems to be throwing the towel into the ring.

It is also convenient in this case. People tend to criticize free games far less than games you have to pay full price for.

Ghilz Fight it Out! from The Moon, Or Canada Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Fight it Out!
Jan 22nd 2019 at 1:05:23 PM

I think the controversies are accelerating things, but I don't think they are causing it. The game wasn't making amazing sales even on day 1. And the lootbox stuff was already being worked on for a while.

I think the plan would've been to go F 2 P a year or more later. But the controversy making the sales even worse than expected pushed that timetable forward as a vague attempt to keep the boat afloat a bit longer.

Jan 22nd 2019 at 6:30:29 PM

Bethesda is denying FO76 will go FTP...

Lootboxes are probably an inevitability, though

onyhow Too much adorableness from Land of the headpats Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Too much adorableness
Jan 25th 2019 at 3:31:51 AM

^ Then again, Battleborn and Lawbreakers said the same thing...

Give me cute or give me...something?
Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland
Overlording the Underworld
Jan 25th 2019 at 7:27:36 AM

If they admit it, then they completely lose out on any chance of people still buying the game before the FTP drop happens.

Jan 25th 2019 at 12:50:55 PM

also apparently theyve announced the ffa pvp server mode along with the uh..highly questionable plan to let people bring characters over from the non-pvp servers, nevermind that means being able to like..bring lvl 150 fully geared characters into FFA loot corpses mode.

TheLovecraftian Relationship Status: Seeking boyfriend-free girl
Jan 25th 2019 at 4:28:49 PM

So, to break convention, I'm going to post something that isn't bad news about the game (shocking, I know. They've managed to spend an entire week without a new one of those).

Bethesda is considering adding a new game mode: Survival Servers.

It's basically a PVP-oriented server, but here's the issue: you can transfer your already existing characters to the Survival server, which, as thousands of people have already pointed out, will inevitably lead to massive amounts of griefing.

One interesting point I've seen brought up is that this isn't really a good heading for what Bethesda originally claimed the game would be about, and as much as I find that investing on building this game world when it's basically dying in terms of concurrent players right now, the idea itself has merit.

What do y'all think?

Ghilz Fight it Out! from The Moon, Or Canada Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Fight it Out!
Jan 25th 2019 at 4:44:30 PM

I find that this is much like adding spinners to a submarine. It's a feature that doesn't really provide anything.

The game's not set for PVP. There's no real reward for it. Like, sure, you can take people's stuff I guess, but if that's a feature this just becomes its own set of problem (Are you fucked for good if you get ganked?)

There's also no faction, so really it's just encouraging stronger players to pick on weaker players and griefing.

But hey, it's exactly the kind half-assed, lazy design decision that Fallout 76 has been all about. So internally consistent at least. "Maybe if we let players kill each other they won't be bored and it saves us from making content!"

Jan 25th 2019 at 5:24:13 PM

further fun with bad ideas. Bethesda is advertising a blue and yellow lambskin leather jacket with pictures of ill-fitting models in them.

You too can own the fallout 76 vault jacket for a mere 276 dollars plus shipping.

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands
Redmess
Jan 25th 2019 at 6:47:54 PM

That much?? For that money, you could probably have one tailor made for you.

Jan 25th 2019 at 7:00:40 PM

I had to look it up, because I assumed you were making it up and naming some random stupidly high number. Nope.

For fuck's sake, Bethesda, read the mood.

MJTrooper The Neutral One from California
The Neutral One
Jan 25th 2019 at 7:03:47 PM

They aren't going to suddenly make it with nylon because of a shortage of leather, are they?

Personally, I'd prefer if the 'net was a little friendlier, but you know the GIFT...
Redmess Redmess from Netherlands
Redmess
Jan 25th 2019 at 7:25:38 PM

You could just buy a denim jumpsuit for a fraction of that price, cut out the number you want on it, and sew it on the back. Voila, one Vault Tec jumpsuit.

Jan 25th 2019 at 7:50:04 PM

Nope, was not kidding in the least.

They seriously want 276 dollars for a leather jacket themed on fallout 76 and even tweeted about it.

it even comes with a (cheap looking) tote bag to carry it in

also people were pointing out in some youtube comments you generally use lambskin leather for high end vanity products that durability isnt a key issue for, because the stuff is thin and easy to damage, so the use of it for the entire outside, or using taffeta 9which is basiclaly Rayon), for the inside, and selling it as "premium" is insane levels of pure bullshit.

Edited by Midgetsnowman on Jan 25th 2019 at 8:03:09 AM

Redmess Redmess from Netherlands
Redmess
Jan 26th 2019 at 3:24:38 AM

Why would you want a tote bag for a jacket?

And yeah, this sounds like a massive ripoff.

Jan 26th 2019 at 8:58:27 AM

Its technically a "garment bag" but it doesnt look at all like a quality actual garment bag, but like they aped the general shape of a garment bag but in the form of the sort of cheap material you get your one time use only cap and gown for highschool graduation.

Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland
Overlording the Underworld
Jan 26th 2019 at 10:07:30 PM

At this stage it's almost like Zenimax wants to nuke Bethesda from orbit and used this game to do it.

Jan 26th 2019 at 10:19:08 PM

or decided the fallout IP wasnt worth it anymore

also as people noticed, half the pics in the store look like they were literally taken on a factory floor where some of the white paint had scratched off from wear and tear, with the jacket hastily thrown there to prove it was a real product.

Edited by Midgetsnowman on Jan 26th 2019 at 10:21:15 AM

Ghilz Fight it Out! from The Moon, Or Canada Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Fight it Out!
Jan 26th 2019 at 10:26:15 PM

[up] It's clearly taken in front of an abandoned building to say "post apocalyptic". Come on, there's plenty to make fun off without grasping at straws.

Why would you want a tote bag for a jacket?

...It's a common thing that comes when buying fancy-ish coats. It protect the coat when not in sure or in storage. They rarely ARE fancy, so advertising it comes with one is a bit weird.

Now I fully expect this to not end up being lambskin leather as advertised by either patent leather or vinyl. That actually DOES sound like a Bethesda move.

Edited by Ghilz on Jan 26th 2019 at 1:27:25 PM

Jan 26th 2019 at 10:27:02 PM

That is Fallout's aesthetic, so I can't fault them too much for that. Though I feel like there was probably a way to get that aesthetic while looking more professional.

It's a drop in the bucket compared to everything else wrong, anyway.

[nja]ed.

Edited by Discar on Jan 26th 2019 at 10:27:18 AM

Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland
Overlording the Underworld
Jan 26th 2019 at 10:27:32 PM

They're not fashion experts, so they're winging it. They probably didn't know that most such bags aren't especially advertised.

Jan 26th 2019 at 10:28:51 PM

well the double probl;em with advertising the garment bag is pictures of the garment bag show its basically the same nylon as the infamous tote bag./

Ghilz Fight it Out! from The Moon, Or Canada Relationship Status: Drift compatible
Fight it Out!
Jan 26th 2019 at 10:29:55 PM

That's normal for a garnment bag. These things tend to be cheap since it's literally just there to store a coat and get dirty instead of the coat.

They are never made of fancy material. (Coz frankly, no one wants to feel like they are paying for the bag).

Edited by Ghilz on Jan 26th 2019 at 1:31:11 PM

Jan 26th 2019 at 10:33:32 PM

I get that, yes.

The problem is that its real easy for the intenret to notice that and mock bethesda further over a "feature" of the coat they probabl;y didnt need to advertise simply because of a previous incident

raziel365 Anka Aquila from Lima, Perú Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
Anka Aquila
Jan 26th 2019 at 10:38:32 PM

Does this rabbit hole have a bottom? The more I see, the more I wonder what the hell were they thinking.

Edited by raziel365 on Jan 26th 2019 at 10:38:50 AM

Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, maybe we should try to find the absolutes that tie us.

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