Dead By Daylight

I feel bad for the Hillbilly in this game. But it's a good demonstration of how exploitable a Hillbilly can be when he tries to use his chainsaw constantly instead of tactically. You should usually chainsaw to travel across the map faster, and when you chainsaw to hit someone you should usually only start revving when you're almost right on their back. There is a place for ranged chainsaw hits, but it's very situational.

Edited by StateOfBedlam on Jul 12th 2018 at 11:17:40 AM

Had my best run as Freddy to date with 3 out of 4 kills. I think part of my mistake before was I thought I had to hold his "put in the dream world" ability the entire time until they fell asleep. Just hitting it once and staying close is enough it seems. So I might've been making it harder on myself if re-doing it restarts the timer.

Edited by sgamer82 on Jul 13th 2018 at 9:05:46 AM

You can't restart the timer, but holding it down after you didn't need to could've been distracting you from getting ready to hit them ASAP. Or more likely, prevented you from getting multiple if you find them in a group. Have you gone up in rank, or are you still in the 20ish range?

Edited by StateOfBedlam on Jul 13th 2018 at 7:49:50 AM

The season restarted so it reset the ranks. I'm currently at 18 thanks to that and a full sweep as the Pig.

I really need to remember to turn down the in-game sound when I stream...

Edited by sgamer82 on Jul 13th 2018 at 9:03:15 AM

Oh right, I forgot because I haven't logged in yet. Happens every 13th. But where were you before the reset?

About the same, I think.

Double Post to say that I just played my first three games as a Survivor. Two as Laurie Strode and one as Claudette. Since I had an obsession perk as Laurie I spent a lot of my first game playing interference.

I also played alongside a friend of mine who hadn't played in a while.

First Game: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/286006681
Second Game: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/286006680
Third Game: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/286006679

Oh, I didn't realize you hadn't played any survivor. Playing one side definitely helps you improve at the other. The added perspective is beneficial.

Also I notice you fixed the audio! That makes a huge difference.

Some beginner advice: I don't want to go in-depth with it, but you drop pallets way too early. Try to look into looping, learning how close the killer is by the intensity of the heartbeat/terror radius, knowing when to orient the camera around in a chase, and paying attention to when the red glow is on your back. These aren't skills I can impart through text. (Actually, maybe check out the video I linked at the top of this page. The Hillbilly in that video seems about as new to the chainsaw as the one you faced in your first video. Notice that I usually try to wait to drop the pallet until I absolutely have to to avoid being hit.)

Also, remember that dropping pallets and fast-vaulting both give the killer a noise notification that gives away your position. So at 7:02 in the third video, the killer already knew your general location because of the generator popping but the fast vault right after also told them which direction you were headed. That makes it much easier for them to intercept you. Remember that you vault at different speeds depending on if you were running and what angle you came from.

Lastly, Hex totems glow orange. You'll know for sure if it's a regular totem or a Hex totem. The sound at 8:42 was a Hex totem being destroyed. You can also see the noise bubble of where the recently destroyed Hex totem was located.

I feel like I could help you guys a lot by joining in some time so I could answer some questions etc. in real time during the game, but unfortunately I don't have a working mic right now. Maybe if I get one at some point I'll bring it up again.

I've been taking a little break since rank reset and playing Identity V. It's a free mobile game that lifted most of its mechanics from Dead by Daylight (albeit with notable differences). They later partnered with Behavior Interactive as well, so I guess they aren't treating each other as competition. I've really been enjoying playing as the Mechanic, a survivor that starts with a remote control robot. (There are actual innate differences between survivors in Identity V). I'm up to 28 videos of the game since I started playing it on Saturday. I also have my first actual, regular viewer since I started those videos. No telling how long that'll last though.

EDIT: This week's Shrine of Secrets: https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/8zqh25/shrine_of_secrets_71718/

Edited by StateOfBedlam on Jul 17th 2018 at 10:48:25 AM

I had some interesting games over this past weekend. I decided to get some work done on the daily rituals to farm some blood points. So I leveled up Laurie Strode, as one of my rituals was open the gate as her. Took some time, and I didn't stream it, but I did eventually pull it off.

It was Vs the Trapper in the Game stage. At the very end I got to the gate and was opening it, but the killer was on the way because I sprung a trap. I opted to commit and try to finish it and got cut down with just a tiniest sliver of the channel remaining. But then I lucked out in that the killer left me alone to chase others and someone was able to get me back up. They triggered the trap, but I got 'em out, finished the gate opening and got the hell out of there, winning both my ritual and the Adept Laurie achievement (surviving a match as Laurie equipped with her three unique Perks). If nothing else, doing that ended up giving me a lot of practice dealing with the killer.

Next ritual was sabotaging two hooks. I took Jake since he had the Saboteur perk. First match I got one hook sabotaged, but had the misfortune of going up with the Pig armed with Hangman's Trick so she knew exactly what I'd done. I got my one hook but killed pretty much immediately (and kept getting downed as soon as I was rescued). Attempts to get the second hook finally succeeded, but did so in a game where the load time went so long that by the time it loaded every survivor except me had left, creating a 1v1 with the killer. I got my hook for the ritual, and tried for the win (since it was just me only two generators were required) but didn't get that.

The last Survivor ritual I worked on between then and now involved doing 180 seconds of co-op actions. I picked Dwight, since his perks emphasized teamwork and would hopefully make that smooth. Over the course of numerous games I gradually did it, but the next to last game ended on 179/180... so I had to play one last game to get just a single second of co-op...

My buddy, doing the same thing, had rituals to get chased by the killer for a total of 4 minutes as Meg, and rescue survivors off the hook as David. However he kept finding opportunities to rescue survivors as Meg, and getting targeted by the killer as David. He eventually got his down, and even started streaming himself. Though there were some audio hiccups where he could be heard but I couldn't when speaking to him or could hear him and not the game audio.

Finally, in the course of all this and a little side experimentation, I discovered that I can not play Survivor with keyboard and mouse, finding a controller more comfortable. Meanwhile the exact opposite is true for playing Killer. My friend suggested it's because of how playing the Survivor requires camera control (much easier with a controller control stick vs a mouse I have to keep twisting my wrist for) and aim is more of a necessity for the killer and is easier with mouse camera.

I streamed the majority of this, but I don't have clips made yet.

I'm finding that, as a survivor, I seem to frequently end up either focused on generators or running interference with the Killer. Even when I try I don't have much opportunity to be an altruist or heal teammates.

Edited by sgamer82 on Jul 24th 2018 at 10:41:58 AM

Funny you should post again on the first night I played multiple matches of Dead by Daylight since I started Identity V. The only one I'm uploading is some no-perk gameplay as Dwight versus a Nurse. I'm the only one who made it out, yet I still finished with slightly more points than the killer. I'll add a link to the video to this post when it's done uploading. It's been a long time since I played survivor without a perk build of any kind.

Hangman's Trick probably gave her a head start because it notifies her earlier, but I should point out that the killer is notified when you've finished the hook regardless. The hooks also regenerate regardless, but Hangman's makes it quicker. It's actually a pretty weak perk most of the time. You got really unlucky to face a killer using it while you were doing a sabo ritual.

EDIT: Ok here's that video.

Edited by StateOfBedlam on Jul 25th 2018 at 12:30:38 PM

Yeah, I think sabotaging the hooks seems like more trouble than it's worth, most of the time.

I filled up to the 1 mil blood cap with this Hag game, so I might stop playing until the next chapter comes out and spend all those points on the new killer (whatever it will be) when it's released.

Unless this summer event leak is legit. Then I may be compelled to return, spend a bit of those points at a time before each match, and try to still have 1 mil saved up when I'm done unlocking those new cosmetic items. Especially the one for Hillbilly.

Edited by StateOfBedlam on Jul 30th 2018 at 1:07:15 AM

Scorching Summer BBQ Event Starts August 7th

There's been one other event like this so far. For that one, I completed the challenges for both sides. For this one, I think I'll stick to killer. I only care about that new weapon cosmetic for Hillbilly.

I also put up a montage video for Identity V recently, which is essentially the mobile Dead by Daylight.

https://forum.deadbydaylight.com/en/discussion/11577/scorching-summer-bbq-prepare-for-the-heat/p1?new=1 - details of the event direct from their forums

Been playing off and on myself lately with a friend of mine. His girlfriend got the game recently too, so we did some 3-man team survive w/ friends. Later, because his girlfriend had yet to play killer, we did "Kill Your Friends" just the 3 of us so she could try that role out.

I haven't had a chance to turn it into a proper highlight yet, but you can see that match here: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/292470971?t=00h50m00s

Turns out the g/f, playing the Hillbilly, took the Tinkerer perk, which threw the two of us off, because we didn't know what it actually did.

By the way, have you ever run into a glitch like this: playing as survivor, but die instantly on your second hook, regardless of how far along you were the first time? My friends both encountered this glitch a few times and we're pretty positive it wasn't due to being on the hook for too long the previous time. Just second hook, then death. I tried to search for anyone else who ran into it but everyone assumes it's just due to going past 50% on the first hook.

Edited by sgamer82 on Aug 3rd 2018 at 12:40:21 PM

And it was recently changed too. What it does now is completely different from what it used to do.

"The heartbeat just stopped all of the sudden. That's weird." So that's what it sounds like from the other side.

I put Tinkerer and Bitter Murmur (which was buffed in the same update that changed Tinkerer) to good use here. Tinkerer gave me the notification of which gen was being worked on. Bitter Murmur told me which way the survivor was walking away from it (after completing it) while I was on my way there. Then another gen triggered Tinkerer again just in time for me to have no terror radius while I was closing in on my target. The timing couldn't have been more perfect. That's not my first long distance chainsaw hit, but they're rare for everyone.

Do you have any video examples?

Edited by StateOfBedlam on Aug 4th 2018 at 12:34:22 PM

I'll have to go through videos a bit. My friend has been streaming/highlighting too so he almost certainly does.

Here at 9:40 in your friend's video.

Contrast 10:00 in my video when I go into struggle phase on the hook.

I have my struggle key bound to "F" because I found the spacebar less reliable, but notice that the "F" key starts flashing almost as soon as it appears on my screen to indicate that I'm pressing it.

In the stream video, the spacebar indicator isn't flashing. So the problem is either that he didn't start tapping the button soon enough or that the game isn't registering that he's pressing it.

EDIT: Here at 8:05 in this video it's a little bit different. He starts tapping the button, but then around 8:09 it looks like the tapping stops for about a half a second (which is all it takes). Right after that, he dies.

I suggest rebinding the struggle key to "F."

Edited by StateOfBedlam on Aug 4th 2018 at 3:51:43 AM

I'll pass that along and we'll see how it works. Thanks for checking on that.

That might explain why I haven't run into it while my friends have. I don't use the keyboard when playing Survivor (I feel like I'd twist my wrist trying to use the mouse). I use a controller for survivor, keyboard for killer.

Edited by sgamer82 on Aug 4th 2018 at 6:58:20 AM

I got 26/50 survivor chops in two hours with Iron Grasp and Agitation equipped on Hillbilly. I tried to make sure survivors completed all margarita generators too. I have been mostly successful. I will get the other half of the survivor chops another day.

EDIT: Never mind, I ended up doing it all today. 50/50, and I've got my Pro-Pain Hammer. I'm also back up to that 1 mil bloodcap in anticipation of the next chapter coming in the fall.

Edited by StateOfBedlam on Aug 8th 2018 at 1:37:03 AM

Is there any easy way to get BP up that high or is it just playing a lot without much to spend on?

I'm hoping to get some survivor time in today. I want to test a few things with the Object of Obsession perk that I checked out while in Kill Your Friends.

The Killer's ability to see you when using OoO depends on you physically looking in their direction. You can see the killer if the camera is turned towards them, but they won't see you if your back is turned. So face a wall or some direction you know the killer isn't, scan around and you'll be able to see the killer with them none the wiser.

I'm reasonably confident this works as in my KYF match my friend playing killer (trying the trapper) specified she couldn't see me when the camera was turned to her directly but could when my character was.

Doing some reading I've learned the Shape in tier 1 is unaffected by the perk, and you can't see the Nightmare unless you're in the dream world. It sounds like you can see the Wraith and, while I'm unclear on the Pig while crouching, I'm assuming it's like tier 1 Shape.

See my testing here: http://www.twitch.tv/zeidoktor/v/293279006?sr=a&t=7362s

Edited by sgamer82 on Aug 10th 2018 at 12:43:10 PM

Bloodpoint offerings help (and if you use the event offerings while the summer event is going you'll also get bonus BP for any event gen completed/event hook used depending on your side, so there's a limited time BP gain method too). Also there are some perks that can get you BP faster (like BBQ & Chili, Distressing, and We're Gonna Live Forever) but I wasn't using any of those.

Mostly I just saved up for x hours and quit when I reached the cap. It's not that I don't still have plenty to spend the points on after almost 500 hours. Believe me, I do. I'd love to dump a truckload of points onto Myers, Hag, Hillbilly, Doctor, Trapper, Nurse right now. There are lots of killers I'd like to have more perkified. (Survivor is easier in that regard because I just put everything I want on Nea and don't have to worry about anyone else for the most part). It's just that I would rather wait for a new killer to make the experience feel new again for a bit than grind for all the perks I want on everyone I already have, which would exhaust a lot of free time. And trying out a new killer helps me care less about all the toxic encounters I've had in the game, which will always be in the back of my mind when I load it up.

See my testing here: http://www.twitch.tv/zeidoktor/v/293279006?sr=a&t=7362s

Ok, that's something I actually didn't know. Which makes me think most long-time players probably don't realize that either. I'm not even sure that's how it's intended to function, based on the perk description. Very good work!

(I did already know about it not working normally against Freddy etc.)

Edited by StateOfBedlam on Aug 11th 2018 at 12:21:22 PM

The Perk's description says "when you look in the Killer's direction". That made me think of whether it meant when the camera looked or the character, so I tested.

Edited by sgamer82 on Aug 11th 2018 at 1:25:35 PM

It says "If you are the Killer's Obsession and look in the Killer's direction, your link will reveal your auras to each other." That implies that any time you can see the killer's aura, the killer should be able to see yours. But you just found out it's possible to see the killer's aura and conceal your own.

Edited by StateOfBedlam on Aug 11th 2018 at 1:50:18 AM

Yeah, double checking the video I'm not sure I confirmed my friend saw my aura while hers was on screen, so I may double check that. Same time we did confirm she saw mine when I was looking at her, even though my camera wasn't turned to see her.

It might also be beneficial to record from both POVs next time.

Edited by StateOfBedlam on Aug 11th 2018 at 2:00:05 AM