Fate/Grand Order

That had nothing to do with Morgan or their upbringing, though.

Except maybe the bit where Agravain and Lancelot can't stand each other.

“My adoptive fairy mom was a SAINT!” - Lancelot

“She was a WHORE!” - Agravain

Then Lancelot effortlessly kills him.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Jul 21st 2021 at 12:05:54 PM

One of them got a cool magic sword and perpetual magical blessing (and possibly that antimagic ring, can't remember if that has a source). The other one got told "kill your uncle".

Lancelot issues have nothing to do with his mom, he did it to himself.

Also, it has just occurred to me: how exactly did Beryl pull off summoning PHH Morgan as a Servant? The KotR never touched her, Merlin is still imprisoned in Avalon, and presumably her physical makeup isn't radically different from Lostbelt Morgan—so she's basically immortal.

I mean, we've also seen that Morgan can make clones of herself pretty trivially.

So, did she do the Merlin thing and more or less just... send a projection?

Edited by RainehDaze on Jul 21st 2021 at 8:13:12 PM

Remember that the Orkney Sibling's father is King Lot. Who was king in the realm of the Picts.

Beryl wanted someone who can "break the world". So he got the one person who would definitely want to mess with the Lostbelt for personal reasons.

Yeah but it's less "why Morgan" and more "how Morgan".

Everything in the Nasuverse dies at some point. Morgan is no exception. So just apply a bit of Emiya logic in here and out pops a Servant.

Edited by Pokesamus on Jul 21st 2021 at 12:19:24 PM

Except various perfectly-still-alive and not-actually-Heroic-Spirit people have gotten involved and showed up that way, so I was wondering if that might be the more likely case here.

The very immortal and still alive Scathach became summonable because she died when human history was torched. Presumably something similar happened to Morgan.

Ashwatthama was immortal too, I believe

Edited by asterism on Jul 21st 2021 at 8:53:46 PM

Wasn’t she the one who trapped Merlin in Avalon? I recall the process likely killed the one who set the trap, and like an idiot Merlin walked right into it knowing exactly what would happen.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Jul 21st 2021 at 12:56:57 PM

Immortal yes, but one with an end to it.

As for Morgan, well... She is just a character they seem to be too afraid to do a lot of definite things with so many things feel bit unfinished. For example we still don't know why she wanted to help those Arthur cultists.

Anyone else feel that Gawain and Robin's profile pics look... off. With the other alt outfits for Summer Servants, like Dantes, Gil, or the other Knights, they look like they were drawn from scrath. But with Robin and Gawain... it looks like only the bodies were drawn while their heads were just cut and pasted on.

That's because Arco Wada probably did lmao, all her concept art in FGO mats uses old art as her base because she apparently didn't feel like drawing new reference sheets for FGO original outfits from scratch.

Edited by Nouct on Jul 21st 2021 at 1:31:42 AM

Still better than Nero's and Tamamo Cat's idol costumes that basically just use the base artwork as a base.

Best mom.

If she wants to be best mom grab her staff and smash it in Beryls face at that moment. Save her from the Gut

Doing the raids with Astraea. Its Suplex City time.

It's Baobhan's fault for making the moves on her stepfather in the first place

It’s really funny how quickly the fandom changed from Morgan being a neglectful mom to best mom.

I mean, she's still neglectful

LB Morgan when compared to PHH Morgan.

I think that Morgan is being left incomplete because of how much overreach she had in the Arthurian mythos according to Nasu and how that seems to contradict a lot of new info now, so there's still a need to make a cohesive path that makes all of those actions make sense for her character. Ironically, this contradiction mirrors a bit how she is in the mythos proper but Nasu has yet to make the full bridge to make her consistent.

Morgan in PHH wanted to become ruler of Camelot, hence why she created Mordred and why she sent Agravain to Artoria's court. This was the info we had up until the end of FGO's first part and kept her villainous portrayal since the VN. The only changes she had was that Apocrypha gave her a character design that has been adopted as the official one.

Then, we got info from Case Files that Gray was an attempt to revive Artoria thanks to Morgan's machinations, this is the first point in which you have a contradictory behaviour from Morgan since she's supposed to hate her sister, with the feeling being mutual.

Now we have a proper showing of how Morgan acts and what was her goal, namely that she wanted to make a Britain for the fae rather than the humans and she's a half-fae herself. If we also consider how she acted in the previous loops, we can infer that Morgan was not exactly a bad ruler but kept being screwed over by her subjects. Not to mention she's also Lancelot's adoptive mother now.

And finally, we have the summonable Morgan, who is explicitly her Lostbelt self instead of her PHH one, so her personality has changed from her PHH days after the Trauma Conga Line of ruling Camelot's treacherous Fae.

What can we infer from all of this? I guess that proper PHH Morgan is going to have her own point of divergence after the fall of Camelot, probably as part of a reaction of seeing Mordred and Artoria dying after the battle of Camlann and a confrontation with the remaining Knights of the Round Table who are bound to bring some sense back to her now that the kingdom is gone thanks to her. We also have to consider that what comes after 500 AD are the Anglo-Saxon invasions, and thus the end of Romano-British rule in most of Roman Britannia, so the exile to Wales and the rise of the Heptarchy, along with the Viking and Norman invasions later on, could be used to expand her character and give her a proper Heel Realization that would lead to her actions in Case Files down the line.

Edited by raziel365 on Jul 21st 2021 at 2:13:18 AM

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anyway I'm currently aiming to cap Mash, Get Euryale to 4th Ascension and get Anderson and maybe Gareth to 3rd. Also planning on giving the Beserker embers to Jalter to take advantage of the exp bonus.

The things is that means that Hans, Euryale and Jalter have todays Ember's experience cards to themselves and that I don't know what to give Mash until after capping one of the former. any ideas?

Apologies if the wall of text lost you.