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vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#37226: Jun 9th 2019 at 7:33:09 PM

Man, reading some lines of Arthur's new Interlude makes me regret not being able to get him.

An absolute Chad of a man

raziel365 Anka Aquila from South of the Far West (Veteran) Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
Anka Aquila
#37228: Jun 9th 2019 at 11:50:37 PM

Considering how are battles supposed to look like from what we see in the manga, I wouldn’t be surprised if Jalter appears more than once in Babylonia, with Waver being another possible addition.

Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, we should find the absolutes that tie us.
WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015
#37229: Jun 10th 2019 at 12:13:11 AM

[up]Are you talking about the anime? Because we the Male Protagonist has Low Luck going by the Summons he had when dealing with Galahad.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#37230: Jun 10th 2019 at 3:49:48 AM

I thought the only servants we have on hand are the ones in the story?

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
Nouct insert commentary here from an east coast Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
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#37231: Jun 10th 2019 at 4:13:42 AM

The whole point of setting up summoning circles in every Singularity is to establish temporary summoning of Chaldea's Servants for Fujimaru.

There's a loredump in Shimosa where Fuuma explains how this all works to Musashi.

vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#37232: Jun 10th 2019 at 5:21:16 AM

It only took around two years to finally explain that shit

TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Shocking Gun!
#37233: Jun 10th 2019 at 5:43:01 AM

I feel like Mash said something like that in one of the leylinne connection scenes, but I can't recall which one, and I can't remember when each one happened.

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
doineedaname from Eastern US Since: Nov, 2010
#37234: Jun 10th 2019 at 5:46:23 AM

I think they mentioned a little about it in London when they were in Jekyll's house.

TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
Shocking Gun!
#37235: Jun 10th 2019 at 6:00:29 AM

Oh yeah, that is the one

Dr. Roman: We'll put the Servant summoning circle over the Leyline to boost [Master] and Mash's combat abilities. Servants summoned by the circle aren't always active, but they're a huge help in battles!

Also, damn I forgot how long it took to actually set up a summoning circle in America.

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf Since: Jan, 2019
I actually wanted to be Resileaf
#37236: Jun 10th 2019 at 6:29:42 AM

Imagine if the game prevented you from using your non-Mash servants until the summoning circle was set up.

raziel365 Anka Aquila from South of the Far West (Veteran) Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
Anka Aquila
#37237: Jun 10th 2019 at 7:25:46 AM

Didn’t that happen in the first fights of the CCC event?

Instead of focusing on relatives that divide us, we should find the absolutes that tie us.
Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf Since: Jan, 2019
I actually wanted to be Resileaf
#37238: Jun 10th 2019 at 7:28:30 AM

Yeah, but I meant in all the story chapters.

vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#37239: Jun 10th 2019 at 7:53:43 AM

Hope you like your Musashi only support for Shimosa!

Prany Since: Apr, 2013
#37240: Jun 10th 2019 at 8:37:07 AM

I know nothing about legends of Raiko and her heavenly kings so the whole deal at the summit went over my head. Can anyone enlighten me on what's her deal in legends and what changes TM did to her to make things even more confusing for me?

Besides giving her tits. I got that part.

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#37241: Jun 10th 2019 at 8:52:50 AM

[up]What tits? All I see is a pair of water ballons.

Nouct insert commentary here from an east coast Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
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#37242: Jun 10th 2019 at 8:53:50 AM

Gonna just quote her mats because it's pretty concise

tl;dr the story of Raikou and Ushi-Gozen were conflated to be about the same person as a representation of Raikou's inner conflict as both warrior protecting the humans and demonic oni with the gender flip thrown in to incorporate some historical speculation and to add even more angst.

The episode regarding Raikou’s half-brother. Although he is precisely Raikou’s younger brother, there is a theory that he was thought to be a “woman” because of the name “Gozen”. (The Ushi-Oni is a monster that possesses the special characteristic of frequently “taking on the form of a woman”, and the Ushi-Oni also appears before Minamoto no Raikou in the “Taiheiki”, taking on the form of “his mother”.)
In Fate/Grand Order, Raikou appears as a woman. This person is the true figure of Minamoto no Raikou, and “Ushi-Gozen” is the younger sister of Minamoto no Raikou in the old Joururi, The True Form of Ushi-Gozen.

The way of these things came from an interpretation. The daughter of Minamoto no Mitsunaka, who was born as the heaven-sent child of Gozu Tennou, was left in the care of a temple as a male and was raised in secret because of her abnormal birth (being an Oni child). On the occasion of turning 15 years old, she was brought back to the capital to play an active role, being gifted the name Minamoto no Raikou. Her name was established as a military commander who, on the surface, drove away many Mysteries, taking on in the beginning Ushi-Oni (who is close to her in a sense). Consequently, the episodes of “Sakata Kintoki protecting Ushi-Gozen, who had fallen into a predicament of being driven into a corner”, “the life and death struggle between Minamoto no Raikou and the demonic Ushi-Gozen”, etc., as depicted in The True Form of Ushi-Gozen, were somehow actually speaking of the events…

… of the conflicts with herself. For the purpose of launching herself to the center stage of history as a central figure of the Minamoto clan, Minamoto no Raikou was attempting to detach “Ushi-Gozen”, who is by definition the aspect of her demonic nature/strange form. Speaking of the modern era, the land that corresponds to Tokyo was where Raikou contended against her tempestuous self by means of a deep meditation. Raikou faced with “Ushi-Gozen”… the demon inside her, and Ushi-Gozen finally separated from Raikou, manifesting as an avatar of Gozu Tennou. The sky became a storm, the thunder roared chaotically, and the earth broke apart. Raikou was to “kill herself” together with the Four Heavenly Kings in order to defeat this being.

Edited by Nouct on Jun 10th 2019 at 8:57:26 AM

Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf Since: Jan, 2019
I actually wanted to be Resileaf
#37243: Jun 10th 2019 at 8:56:57 AM

Really, the question is how did she even manage to pass as male.

Nouct insert commentary here from an east coast Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
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#37244: Jun 10th 2019 at 8:59:08 AM

My semi-joking, semi-serious headcanon is that all of Raikou's demon essence was stored in her boobs and she cut them off when she tried to become fully human (read:embrace her masquerade as male scion of the Minamotos)

it's really dumb but also is it really that dumb compared to anything else in Fate

Edited by Nouct on Jun 10th 2019 at 9:00:00 AM

TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#37245: Jun 10th 2019 at 8:59:12 AM

Speaking of which, this is more in-depth explanation about Raikou's mental state from her interlude.

Raikou's mentality has been stuck as a child and wanted to be a mother due to her respect for her actual mom that sacrificed herself to save her. However, Raikou's dad need Raikou to maintain her facade as male and the head of the family, thus denying her gender and her intention to be a mother. He says Raikou can have children, but she can only be the father of the kids, and this is what caused confusion and stress in Raikou. What's worse, when the time comes for the family to sire a new head, Raikou's dad gave her this sick choice: Take her new born brothers as her adopted children, with her acting as a father, or sire a heir with some man, that killing the guy after confirming that she is pregnant to keep the secret that she is female safe.

Raikou insists she has Kintoki, so her dad gave her another choice: She can marry and have kids with Kintoki to keep the demon blood within the family, but she will have to kill Kintoki herself if they have too many kids.

So Raikou choose the adoption route and decides to stop thinking and just act as demon slayer to escape from reality. This is implied to be her Saber personality. Her berserker personality, according to Kintoki is when she was raising him, and it was gone when he became an adult.

Sauce

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
Prany Since: Apr, 2013
#37246: Jun 10th 2019 at 9:00:43 AM

Really, the question is how did she even manage to pass as male.

She deflated her boobs?

alekos23 𐀀𐀩𐀯𐀂𐀰𐀅𐀡𐀄 from Apparently a locked thread of my choice Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#37247: Jun 10th 2019 at 9:04:01 AM

really tight bandages

bound with magic

Secret Signature
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#37248: Jun 10th 2019 at 9:11:56 AM

Raita didn't give it that much thought?

It's been fun.
BattleRaizer from Realm of Khorne Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
#37250: Jun 10th 2019 at 9:15:42 AM

People just refuse to think that pair of boobs is real?

E.T technically is a Isekai movie

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