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ITNW1989 a from Big Meat, USA Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: GAR for Archer
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#29576: Dec 16th 2018 at 10:46:22 AM

[up][up][up][up] In Volume 4 of SF Ishtar notes that she took Gugalanna from a different age; to quote Volume 4:

That's the way. I pulled you from a 'branch' theat doesn't seem like it connects to anywhere, but, well, it shouldn't be a problem just for a little while, right? I mean, the 'me' in that age should just barely be able to use her Authority..."

Edit: [nja]'d

Edited by ITNW1989 on Dec 16th 2018 at 10:46:52 AM

Hitokiri in the streets, daishouri in the sheets.
alekos23 𐀀𐀩𐀯𐀂𐀰𐀅𐀡𐀄 from Apparently a locked thread of my choice Since: Mar, 2013 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#29577: Dec 16th 2018 at 10:49:50 AM

wait, if the GO branch doesn't connect anywhere, is it pruned?

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Nouct insert commentary here from an east coast Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Tell me lies, tell me sweet little lies
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#29578: Dec 16th 2018 at 11:01:05 AM

shouldn't it at least like diverge from clock tower 2015 since the whole point of that was to show lev dying before the plan started

wild mass guessthe only reason ishtar pulled from that timeline is because go and sf are inherently more compatible because of human order stuff

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#29579: Dec 16th 2018 at 11:06:43 AM

Timey-Wimey Ball, as the good Doctor said.

[up][up]Now, wouldn't that be a bold way to end the story?

"Thanks for all the effort you put into saving the world, but unfortunately I lost the window where I could get the Infinity +1 Sword, so I'm deleting this save file. Bye bye!"

Edited by HailMuffins on Dec 16th 2018 at 4:09:23 PM

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#29580: Dec 16th 2018 at 11:12:31 AM

The singularity is gone. The timeline is not. ...Probably. It might count as a Lostbelt right now.

Edited by Arha on Dec 16th 2018 at 1:12:58 PM

HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#29581: Dec 16th 2018 at 11:18:46 AM

Thank God they have the sense not to get too into how the whole time traveling shenanigans works.

As a friend of mine used to say: "Sci-fi and Horror, the less you explain, the better it gets".

Edit: Soft baby, warm baby, little ball of fur...

Edited by HailMuffins on Dec 16th 2018 at 4:57:15 PM

vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
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#29582: Dec 16th 2018 at 3:50:51 PM

Lmao at Ishtar crumbling against our negotiations

Goof up girl too strong, I like her

I always like Ushi and Leonidas I respect now

This is actually pretty fun

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#29583: Dec 16th 2018 at 4:27:34 PM

Yeah, I feel like we are a Lostbelt now given the Alien God. Maybe we'll get to go back to the main history if we destroy the Alien God seedling, or maybe we'll just set up the events of the pan-human history so they can win where we failed, Homestuck-style.

It's been fun.
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#29584: Dec 16th 2018 at 5:08:08 PM

Wait, I'm confused now.

So, Solomon burned up ALL human history, right? As in, every timeline included, even the ones where the Star Wars prequels were good, correct?

So, didn't the Alien God do something similar? I was under the impression he did, because otherwise, couldn't God just delete the save file we're in and piss off for pancakes, with the rest of the Multiverse none the worse for wear?

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#29585: Dec 16th 2018 at 5:16:39 PM

The Alien God seems to be invested in the Crypter War for some reason or another, and so far the timeline Chaldea comes from is the timeline that's playing host to all the Lostbelts that have broken out across the world's surface. It's not clear whether the amount of losses humanity has suffered is enough to force this timeline into becoming a Lostbelt, but right now it's being treated as still being the pan-human history that the other Lostbelts are trying to take over.

So short answer, it could be that there is no timeline where the Alien God didn't arrive and kill most of the population, which means that what happened to our Earth isn't bad enough to qualify as a Lostbelt anymore (because it happened to every Earth). Or this could be the Infinity War timeline where everything has to go badly at first because it's the only way things work out in the end.

Edited by RedSavant on Dec 16th 2018 at 8:18:27 AM

It's been fun.
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#29586: Dec 16th 2018 at 5:35:18 PM

So the main timeline we come from is considered the "main" timeline that the other crypters are trying to overtake?

Essentially, we're just defending our home turf.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
WolfThunder Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th Since: Jun, 2013
Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
#29587: Dec 16th 2018 at 5:43:09 PM

"Edit: Well, this took longer than I expected."

Local woman in tiger onesie announces the world.

The storm has now resided, the wolf now rests.
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#29588: Dec 16th 2018 at 5:50:28 PM

[up]You wouldn't believe how much that edit has flooded r/Grand Order.

BTW, anyone here knows anything about Wrestling? Where does this "BAH GAWD" people keep spamming comes from?

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#29589: Dec 16th 2018 at 5:51:13 PM

There are defences in place to prevent doomsday and apocalyptic scenarios from happening. Inlcuding as we've learned ountless individuals trying to prevent a doomsday they've seen personally.

Solomon has EX Clairvoyance, working outside the world in Imaginary Numbers, and a plan activated simultaneously across 3000 years to circumvent the Alien God.

Also a crappy timeline can be considered the "Main" Timeline. That's what Last Encore in Extra is about. Every Extra earth is doomed because the Harways and their unknown patron Fucked The World Up. All timelocks humans are fucked on earth. But the same is not te case for the Moon and its QT Ls.

The Alien God, however, bypassed every defense earth has against doomsday in the current era and Solomon saw that it was always predetermined to happen unless you flip the board and start over from scratch. So he nearly did.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Dec 16th 2018 at 5:52:16 AM

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
Unlikelyauthor2 Just another weeb Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
Just another weeb
#29590: Dec 16th 2018 at 5:55:16 PM

And then we stopped him because we like being alive and his plan would have turned us into immortal idiots that wouldn't be able to grasp complex concepts like "Love" or "Hate". Like somekind of Human Instramentality, except there wouldn't even be anything left to act as a testament that humans ever existed.

Edited by Unlikelyauthor2 on Dec 16th 2018 at 7:57:50 AM

Regardless of your opinion of the last American election, we can all agree on one thing- The Chinese Communist Party can choke on scrotes!
RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#29591: Dec 16th 2018 at 5:59:53 PM

@Muffin: Probably some announcer's catchphrase. There's like 40 years of WWE; I couldn't be more specific than that. Maybe it's Vince McMahon or something.

Anyway, yeah. To continue the tree metaphor, you have a central trunk that's supposed to have protective bark that keeps it safe as it keeps growing up. However, the Alien God took an axe to that trunk, carving the protections off and allowing branches that split off way futher down the trunk to curl back in, bore into the trunk, and attempt to become the new trunk. The main timeline is still the main timeline, but (and this is my speculation, since I don't really know how Alaya or whatever works and looking it up would take at least an hour of concentrated reading) it's weakened to the point where it can't fight off the Lostbelts anymore. The Fantasy Trees are also helping anchor the Lostbelts - like Reality Marbles or something?

It's been fun.
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#29592: Dec 16th 2018 at 6:02:19 PM

[up]x2 If we had not stopped the Lion King her Pillar of Light would have been the testament to mankinds existence as Camelot and the people would be there within the pillar.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#29593: Dec 16th 2018 at 6:06:12 PM

I think in your analogy the Alien God would more like a parasitic plant, like mistletoe.

We know for a fact that human history can be consumed as energy, somehow, so I think the Alien God plans to absorb both the main timeline and all failed Lostbelt so he can create a world where he's the guy in charge.

After all, there must be something out there who's after his ass, ready to chew his throat open, because if it's objective was to simply get rid of Alaya, well, he pretty much accomplished that already, going all Sodom and Gomorah on everything.

And if he's really just hanging around in the sky, just chilling, he could just get a root down and kill us whenever he wishes to, easy as pie, unless he can't, because, ironically for a tree, he can't replenish his energy by himself and must get it from some other source.

[up]Being turned into a museum piece certainly sounds like a great life. Woody was the villain all along!

Edited by HailMuffins on Dec 16th 2018 at 11:10:49 AM

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#29595: Dec 16th 2018 at 6:16:29 PM

The Alien God definitely has some kind of ace that it's not sharing with the Crypters, I would think. It's shown that it has the power to utterly wreck anything it touches, after all; it doesn't need their help, strictly speaking, since the Fantasy Trees seem to manage fine without the Crypters themselves as long as the Trees exist. I guess it intended the Crypters to do battle with each other instead of banding together to stop Chaldea?

Also, as much as I hate Tamamovitch, I have a hard time believing she doesn't have her own secret horse in the game. She may be an awful psychopath, but the rest of the Tails should love humanity (in the Beast sense) just as much as she does, and they can't all want humanity to suffer forever.

It's been fun.
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#29596: Dec 16th 2018 at 6:24:54 PM

Well they won't if the Alien God had its way. The system is rigged in Wodimes favor, but Tamamo makes clear she loves people to have hope so it can be snuffed out and destroyed as they die. The Alien God slowly stamping out all life across 90 Days fit that.

Even then she'll engsge in petty crelty for no reason regardless as she did in Russias Lostbelt.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#29597: Dec 16th 2018 at 6:28:46 PM

Frankly, I don't know if Mordred Alter is really a good idea, storytelling-wise. I mean, as much as they have popped out by the dozens in FGO, there is generally a justification for that: Saber Alter is everything Artoria has ever repressed in her desire to be a "Perfect King"; Jeanne Alter is the revenged obsessed psycho that so many believe Jeanne turned into in her last moments out of bitterness; Emiya Alter is what Shirou would turn into if he threw his own morality away, and so on and so forth.

But under what justification could Mordred have an Alter version? She's already a traitor who destroyed an entire kingdom out of feelings of rejection alone, and her entire character arc is her just getting rid of all her insecurities and generally chilling the hell out. An Alter would just be resetting her character back to what it was at the beginning of Apocrypha, which Camelot already did.

WolfThunder Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th Since: Jun, 2013
Before the storm closes in, the wolf howls at th
#29598: Dec 16th 2018 at 6:39:56 PM

[up] Maybe it'd be the guilt of what she done catching up to her, turning her self-destructive?

To be honest, the only Alter Servants I really want are Charles Babbage (Just because I want alts for Babbage) and Angra Mainyu (Just because I imagine that an Angra Mainyu Alter would be someone who's disgustingly cheerful and colorful, and that's the funniest shit to me).

The storm has now resided, the wolf now rests.
HailMuffins Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#29599: Dec 16th 2018 at 6:46:08 PM

[up]And make Angra Alter a Ruler for giggles.

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#29600: Dec 16th 2018 at 7:00:00 PM

Angra already seems pretty chill. At least, he is when he shows up in the Altera Santa Christmas event.

It's been fun.

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