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Aug 16th 2019 at 1:59:03 PM

the big issue as I see is that is essentially an effective quasi-DDOS since theres no way to buffer how many people download at once without preloads.

M84 Such heroic nonsense from Our little blue planet Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Such heroic nonsense
Aug 16th 2019 at 5:37:03 PM

Epic Store is a garbage fire. And it's going to stay one since Epic prefers spending money on exclusives to force players to go to their store rather than improve their store so that people would actually want to go there.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Aug 16th 2019 at 6:52:11 PM

pretty much.

Competition for Steam woulda been a good thing but they dont wanna compete, they wanna drive steam out of business and reap all the money.

RainingMetal from Eagleland Canada Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Aug 16th 2019 at 6:52:44 PM

Their actions have made Steam look good in comparison, ironically.

Waifu fans need a life(u).
BadWolf21 The Fastest Man Alive
The Fastest Man Alive
Aug 16th 2019 at 6:56:56 PM

[up][up] Iím confused what you think competition is.

Aug 16th 2019 at 7:08:53 PM

[up]

No, i get your point. But at the same time, in theory, capitalism says the guy with the better product wins, while epic game store is a case of " the guy with more money can cheat his way to victory"

Aug 16th 2019 at 7:36:48 PM

Yep. It's one of the major flaws of capitalism; it's usually easier to enforce a monopoly than to actually make a better product, which is bad for the consumer. That's where government regulations are supposed to come in, but we're not doing great on that front.

That being said, I'm still on the fence about buying it from the Epic store or waiting. I do really love Borderlands, but I've already got a million things to do, so waiting six more months probably won't kill me.

Aug 19th 2019 at 12:16:13 PM

Borderlands 3 - Official Guide to the Borderlands

Borderlands 3 Vault Hunter Deep Dive

Borderlands 3: Proving Grounds End Game Mode Revealed

Borderlands 3: A Full Match of Proving Grounds Gameplay

RainingMetal from Eagleland Canada Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Aug 25th 2019 at 4:35:41 PM

So from what little we know about each of the 3rd generation Vault Hunters' skills, who's the designated healer?

Waifu fans need a life(u).
Clarste One Winged Egret Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
Aug 25th 2019 at 4:50:36 PM

I don't recall anyone having anything resembling a heal.

The devs have also said in interviews that they've tried to avoid any "mandatory" builds or archetypes, using Maya's reviving skill as an example.

Edited by Clarste on Aug 25th 2019 at 4:51:01 AM

Aug 25th 2019 at 5:01:52 PM

[up][up]You can look at the Vault Hunters skills tree on the Borderlands website. Moze [1] Zane [2] Amara [3] FL 4 K[4]

slimcoder Insane Religious Murderbot
Insane Religious Murderbot
Aug 25th 2019 at 5:04:27 PM

The really funny part from the guide video is that you should never ever buy guns from Marcus. Itís a waste of money since the guns you get as loot from quest rewards & killing baddies are always superior to anything he sells.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 25th 2019 at 5:05:44 AM

Nobody is innocent, there are merely varying levels of guilt. Oh and Primus hates you.
RainingMetal from Eagleland Canada Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Aug 25th 2019 at 6:58:52 PM

This would certainly be true in Borderlands 2, but in 1, I've managed to purchase quite a few useful guns. Really glad they're making money have a purpose once more in 3, at least when it comes to inventory upgrades.

Waifu fans need a life(u).
Clarste One Winged Egret Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
Aug 25th 2019 at 7:15:06 PM

The special of the day is pretty much just another random drop. It's probably bad, but it can be good.

RainingMetal from Eagleland Canada Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Aug 25th 2019 at 7:20:00 PM

They really nerfed it in Borderlands 2 though. You can actually get Legendary weapons in vending machines in 1.

Waifu fans need a life(u).
Aug 25th 2019 at 11:19:12 PM

I'm getting BL 3 on Steam because I like having all my games in one spot.

Regardless, I don't mind waiting a bit longer, since I have a decent backlog right now.

Including needing to finish the pre sequel, plus a UVH playthough of BL 2 I'm slowly working though with a friend.

slimcoder Insane Religious Murderbot
Insane Religious Murderbot
Aug 25th 2019 at 11:19:57 PM

Yeah I should prolly finish all the 2 DLC's & the Pre-Sequel.

Nobody is innocent, there are merely varying levels of guilt. Oh and Primus hates you.
Iaculus Pronounced YAK-you-luss from England
Pronounced YAK-you-luss
Aug 26th 2019 at 4:03:54 AM

Marcus is useful if you haven't found a drop of your favourite weapon type in a while. I know I've got some pretty good blue Torgue shotguns from him as Krieg.

What's precedent ever done for us?
TargetmasterJoe Much more than meets the eye! from The City, USA Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
Much more than meets the eye!
Aug 28th 2019 at 7:10:22 AM

Randy's at it again. Now he's getting accused of contempt.

Seriously, what's it going to take for him to just go away?

Status: Evil beware, I have Twitter!
M84 Such heroic nonsense from Our little blue planet Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Such heroic nonsense
Aug 28th 2019 at 7:33:00 AM

[up]His shitty behavior actually impacting sales, for starters.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Aug 28th 2019 at 7:44:38 AM

I'll believe that will happen when I see it. There's guns and leveling up and pew pew to be had; by the time the game comes out on Steam this will all be forgotten. And I say that as someone who still wants to get the game, but will try not to as long as Pitchford's still employed there.

M84 Such heroic nonsense from Our little blue planet Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Such heroic nonsense
Aug 28th 2019 at 7:48:27 AM

Yep, that's exactly why people like Randy keep their jobs. Because gamers are forgiving of a lot of things as long as they can get their games.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Resileafs I actually wanted to be Resileaf
I actually wanted to be Resileaf
Aug 28th 2019 at 8:08:30 AM

Gearbox is unlikely to lose money because Epic is already paying them guaranteed sales. Doesn't matter if nobody actually buys Borderlands on Epic Store, they'll still get money from phantom sales.

Aug 28th 2019 at 8:44:58 AM

The thing is, it shouldn't be on the consumers to punish Randy, one guy out of dozens, by boycotting the company's product. It should be on the company (and the government, if things get bad enough) to punish him by firing or arresting him.

I'm not going to blame anyone who does decide to boycott, either the Epic store or the game in general. I just object to the idea that there's something wrong with the people who choose not to boycott.

M84 Such heroic nonsense from Our little blue planet Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Such heroic nonsense
Aug 28th 2019 at 8:46:14 AM

What it says is that they don't think the objectionable behavior is worth not buying the game.

And each purchase does contribute a little to helping Randy fight his legal battles and such.

The only thing I'd really find questionable would be the people who agree that Randy's shitty and should be held accountable...then go ahead and buy the games his company makes anyway.

If one wants to see Randy Pitchford answer for his bullshit, then this is pretty much the only way they can do it. We're not the company or the government. We can't directly affect the outcome in those situations. What we can do as consumers is vote with our wallets.

Edited by M84 on Aug 28th 2019 at 11:53:43 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised

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