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Shadao To be a Master Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
To be a Master
#14276: Jan 21st 2019 at 7:14:12 PM

[up][up] Makes you wonder why Lucas thought Disney would take good care of his IP if their first thought of making Star Wars video games is to sell the exclusive rights of Star Wars to a company that is known for dubious practices and unpopularity with the gaming community. That gives the impression that they are out of touch with their own audience.

Edited by Shadao on Jan 21st 2019 at 7:14:49 AM

Parable State of Mind from California (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
State of Mind
#14277: Jan 21st 2019 at 7:18:00 PM

Was Lucas ever involved with the video game wing of the franchise?

"What a century this week has been." - Seung Min Kim
Shadao To be a Master Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
To be a Master
#14278: Jan 21st 2019 at 7:21:36 PM

[up] He was involved with the Force Unleased video game and the Shadow of the Empire video game, both of which had a multimedia franchise. Now I doubt he had any real care for the lore of both multimedia project (he was more concerned about the prequels and the Clone Wars series). But I think he would be disappointed that EA aren't producing that many Star Wars games despite the many great potential ideas they could be using right now. To him, this EA fiasco is proof of the death of creativity in the entertainment industry.

Edited by Shadao on Jan 21st 2019 at 7:22:20 AM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#14279: Jan 21st 2019 at 8:28:53 PM

EA’s rights last until 2023.

Yeah. They won’t let it go until then, and even then I still expect them to renew or at least try to. I know it’s a pessimistic outlook, but after Dead Space, Mass Effect, and the stagnation of Madden, EA has proven that the worst outcome is usually the most likely.

Edited by Beatman1 on Jan 21st 2019 at 11:30:06 AM

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#14280: Jan 21st 2019 at 9:13:39 PM

Why the fuck has EA stopped making games? They are a video game company. If they don't make video games, what the fuck do they do?

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#14281: Jan 21st 2019 at 9:14:50 PM

Bleed you dry like a leech.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Unsung it's a living from a tenement of clay Since: Jun, 2016
it's a living
#14282: Jan 21st 2019 at 9:16:00 PM

Make sports games and force the various companies they buy to make multiplayer games even as that bubble shrinks.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#14283: Jan 21st 2019 at 9:17:48 PM

Ergo leeching.

And then fight for their non-right to leech against governments.

They are still trying to legally beat back Belgium’s anti loot box ban.

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 21st 2019 at 9:18:25 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#14284: Jan 21st 2019 at 9:27:42 PM

"Why the fuck has EA stopped making games? They are a video game company. If they don't make video games, what the fuck do they do?"

Make money off of yearly Madden NFL releases and microtransactions. The reason we've gotten two barebones and controversial Battlefront games over, say, a flight sim or an RPG, is that these types of games are harder to monetize.

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#14285: Jan 21st 2019 at 9:30:10 PM

Why did Disney shut down LucasArts in the first place? I mean, they had their own in house video game studio that was already developing games. You'd think that Disney would approve of that, considering how they like to keep things in-house. Instead, they shut down LucasArts and sell the license to EA.

That...doesn't seem at all logical.

HamburgerTime The Merry Monarch of Darkness from Dark World, where we do sincerely have cookies Since: Apr, 2010 Relationship Status: I know
The Merry Monarch of Darkness
#14286: Jan 21st 2019 at 9:31:11 PM

TOR's still running, right?

The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
CrimsonZephyr Would that it were so simple. from Massachusetts Since: Aug, 2010 Relationship Status: It's complicated
Would that it were so simple.
#14287: Jan 21st 2019 at 9:43:14 PM

"Why did Disney shut down Lucas Arts in the first place? I mean, they had their own in house video game studio that was already developing games. You'd think that Disney would approve of that, considering how they like to keep things in-house. Instead, they shut down Lucas Arts and sell the license to EA.

That...doesn't seem at all logical."

Fair questions that we've all asked. Disney doesn't seem to get the video game market, so they probably saw Lucas Arts, a company without an acclaimed release in a long time, and hemorrhaging most of its better development staff, as being dead weight. Since they weren't interested in giving the company a shot in the arm, they disbanded it.

As for why EA? Probably because EA has access to a lot of diverse development staff and a ton of money and so would be able to operate mostly independently in an area Disney wasn't really interested in. I don't think they expected EA to be this much of a liability.

[up]Yes, and it's still getting content updates.

Edited by CrimsonZephyr on Jan 21st 2019 at 12:43:36 PM

"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the dream shall never die."
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#14288: Jan 21st 2019 at 9:46:50 PM

Really I think the most successful Disney property game is most likely...... Kingdom Hearts.

And that's been going on since 2001 in partnership with Square Enix.

I can't think of any other good Disney games.

[up] They assumed that handing things off to a mega-publisher would mean a constant stream of games. Only yeah EA fucked up beyond imagining.

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 21st 2019 at 9:47:46 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Shadao To be a Master Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
To be a Master
#14289: Jan 21st 2019 at 9:56:25 PM

[up][up] In other words, Disney is completely out of touch with the gaming audience who made a parade of mocking EA. I sometimes wonder why do people even go to EA when there are warning signs everywhere that things will not go well in that company?

Parable State of Mind from California (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
State of Mind
#14290: Jan 21st 2019 at 10:00:39 PM

Besides Kingdom Hearts? I think Epic Mickey was the last good Disney game.

"What a century this week has been." - Seung Min Kim
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#14291: Jan 21st 2019 at 10:31:15 PM

Yeah, I heard good things about Epic Mickey and that was developed by Disney Interactive Studios. But they didn't give Disney Interactive the rights to Star Wars games, it went to EA.

...I have a feeling that Disney really doesn't know what to do with video games.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#14292: Jan 21st 2019 at 11:16:54 PM

IIRC, Disney Interactive's only been making phone games after Disney Infinity went away.

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
theLibrarian That all you got? from his own little world Since: Jul, 2009
That all you got?
#14293: Jan 22nd 2019 at 10:03:52 AM

And another thing about the First Order, there's no guarantee that they're anywhere near as strong as the Empire. We've seen one superweapon and an absolutely massive starship that serves as their capital. There's a good number of Star Destroyers, and they have planets to take Stormtrooper recruits from...but they are still nowhere near as strong as the Empire. Hell, the only reason they stand a chance to begin with is because they wiped out the vast majority of the New Republic's fleet with the first shot of Starkiller Base along with their capital. The only reason they're winning is because there's no government, no central authority to oppose them; they don't need a huge fleet to overthrow the New Republic, all they need is to keep people cowed by fear, the same way the Empire did.

For all we know, Starkiller Base and the Supremacy took up the vast majority of their resources to build and maintain.

Edited by theLibrarian on Jan 22nd 2019 at 12:07:07 PM

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Parable State of Mind from California (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
State of Mind
#14294: Jan 22nd 2019 at 10:06:47 AM

Which got a lot harder to do after their super weapon, capital, leader, and a good chunk of their fleet got wipe out over a few days.

"What a century this week has been." - Seung Min Kim
alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#14295: Jan 22nd 2019 at 10:09:34 AM

Also, they were just humiliated by one guy. Sure, he was a famous Jedi Master, but still. That's gotta sting.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#14296: Jan 22nd 2019 at 10:18:20 AM

[up]The Reistance at this point barely still has enough people for a pickup basketball game.

Falrinn Since: Dec, 2014
#14297: Jan 22nd 2019 at 11:13:34 AM

[up] "We are the spark that will light the fire, that will burn the First Order down".

The Resistance is not, and never really was, a conventional threat to the First Order's existence. They just need to get the ball rolling so the rest of the Galaxy sees the First Order as defeatable and steps up to do just that.

It's quite possible that after the First Order failed to completely wipe out the Resistance's leadership at Crate and had their de facto capital ripped in half, just that's already started.

theLibrarian That all you got? from his own little world Since: Jul, 2009
That all you got?
#14298: Jan 22nd 2019 at 11:18:27 AM

Not to mention what was left at D'Qar when the First Order showed up was only a fraction of the Resistance. A lot of other ships and personnel had left by then, which explains why there were so few fighters and none of the guys from the previous movie showed up; they were sent off to other cells.

The Resistance is still out there, it's just a matter of regrouping.

That is the face of a man who just ate a kitten. Raw.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#14299: Jan 22nd 2019 at 11:20:14 AM

I'd go with the galaxy just being in complete chaos as there's no longer any actual government or authority to rein in its unsavory elements.

Maybe the FO should lose simply because Ren is incapable of managing any control in a batshit galaxy, not due to any part of the rebels.

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 22nd 2019 at 11:27:05 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#14300: Jan 22nd 2019 at 11:23:22 AM

That's frankly a bit too clever for this trilogy IMO.


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