Total War: Warhammer

I'm actually curious what other faction will get a new LL in the DLC.

That's... why they're getting re-work. Because they suck.

CA also teased something very interesting:

Can you say ~ Warhammer 3 ~

Only thing I'm kinda surprised about is that Wood Elves beat out Beastmen for the next rework.

Wood Elves might suck, but Beastmen really suck.

Maybe they’re the next ones?

I mean pretty much every Old World faction has gotten buffs at this point.

You'd expect Wood Elves and Beastmen to get their big update together, what with their tying lore-rivalries to DLC packs.

But maybe they want to save the big Beastman rework for Warhammer 3, since that's the one that focusses so much on Chaos.

It's a WH2 DLC. Would be weird if it focused solely on WH1 races.

Moghur would have been perfect for such a DLC, but he's already in the game.

Fingers crossed for Warhammer 3 to bring in my boys the Chaos Dwarves. The only group around without an internal political fight between their magic users and their religious figures.

God, I want Chaos Dwarves so much. Industrial Demonologist Dwarves is such a kickass concept.

Come to think of it it's also a pretty great band name...

Have you tried the Chorf mod for 2? It's pretty neat.

I haven't, mostly because my computer is a potato

I'd say I'd try it but I suspect by the time I get an upgraded computer Warhammer 3 will probably be out

Not sure which mod that would be, but this Kislev mod looks neat.

I hope Kislev gets a good fleshing out if 3 is supposed to be Chaos-focused.

They've already been teasing some stuff. Bear cavalry stuff.

Edited by Kayeka on Jul 29th 2020 at 12:22:09 PM

Also CA did say to bear with them.

So you know, food for thought.

(also that it was chaotic)

I imagine they’ll be the “good guy“ faction with a balanced, well-rounded roster perfect for new players when game 3 launches just as the Empire was in the first game and the High Elves were in the second.

Hopefully they get those big pass forts like the Empire and Asur do, too. There's multiple passes into the country from Norsca and the Chaos Wastes that they could be used for.

So, friend and I finished our stunty coop campaign today.

Afterwards we set up a small experiment to answer a question I've had for ages: What kinda battle map do you get if a Norscan settlement gains walls.

Well, I found the answer. Apparently you get a Greenskin/Dwarf settlement (friend whose army was inside told me the buildings weren't 100 % from the Dwarf *or* Greenskin version) with Empire walls.

My money was on either an open field battle or the game crashing, so I'm pleasantly surprised.

Now I can't guarantee that all walled Norscan settlements look like that and I don't really have the time and motivation to find out, especially since there are at least two other ways to create walled settlements in Norsca (Bretonnia and mods).

So I'm satisfied with the answer I got.

Well, that settles it. Whenever the Norscans don't spend the time to tear down a place's walls, Dorfs and Greenskins will fight over the area in the interim.

I would think that Norscan walls would be a mixture of stone and wooden palisades.

There are no maps for walled Norscan settlements, as Norsca can't normally get walls. If you attack a Norscan settlement, you get an open field battle

It's normally not a problem, since Norsca is almost impossible to conquer for mainland armies because of the cold attrition and the climate being too unfriendly (I don't think the AI ever really tries to attack Norsca) and most of your early game will be to conquer the rest of Norsca while raiding Imperial and Bretonnian towns for pillage money. And then when comes the time to go into the endgame and wipe out civilization, the idea is that you do so alongside Chaos to wipe out everything or have defeated Archaon and taken his place, making your armies near unstoppable.

You'd think so, but Mortal Empire's climate system turned Norsca into a joke - it tends to end up becoming free real estate for Bretonnia and various Imperial factions, in my experience.

Norsca is kind of a problem in general - it's not fun to play in due to its weird province setup, but simultaneously also too vulnerable to AI factions. And the AI sees climate more as a suggestion than anything else.

Not to mention that giving Norsca no walls was a stupid idea - walls are pretty much the only thing keeping the AI from beelining for specific settlements and usally, the first thing any player does, regardless of faction, is to construct walls.

The no-wall thing might have worked when Norsca was uncolonisable for anyone else, but it pretty much puts them at a disadvantage in Mortal Empires.

Iunno, I've never tried them in Mortal Empires.

Norsca was clearly made with the Warhammer 1 climate system in mind. They were good when they first came out, but they've been left behind now that almost every race had a bunch of updates. They're probably getting something along with Warriors of Chaos and Beastman come game 3 (and even then current Norsca is still way better than those two).

Edited by BlackMage43 on Aug 24th 2020 at 1:33:17 AM