Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse

She even has an eveybrow piercing

..... oh my god it's Spider-sense! :D It took me 10 seconds to get that!

Gwen's actress refers to her character as the first Spidewoman.

...Do more research my friend. A lot more research.

It's only right if she means first Spiderwoman on the big screen

Ok, that I can jive with.

We're getting Peni Parker and SP//dr?!

So. Much. Yes.

The toys have the first look at Peni Parker and Spider-Ham◊.

So what do you all think this thing is going to be rated? It looks like it's going to be darker than your standard kids' animated movie, and with an iconic name like Spider-Man in the title to draw crowds they might be able to take some risks that they otherwise couldn't.

In other words. . . might this movie be rated PG-13?

It might...this is clearly made for teenagers and comic book fans who feel like teenagers.

Also, what's your guess on what its budget is? Sony's animated movies are typically on the low to medium side by animated movie standards (usually between $75 and $100 million, as opposed to $200 million for an average Disney movie). The extra-stylized animation in this movie doesn't look like it was too expensive, so I'm going to cautiously guess around $75 million.

Well, there are no numbers out it so it is hard to tell...the lower frame rate should make it cheaper, but the stylistic elements aren't that easy to do if you want to go 3D.

What do you mean by that?

I’m still holding out for Supidaman and Leopardon, outside of the brief cameo in the drawing in the trailer.

+1 to that question. Since when is animation budget determined by the framerate? 0.o

Since in animation every frame has to be painted/created? Saturday morning cartoons have a lower frame rate than theatrically animated movies for exactly that reason, by having to fill less frames they cost less money.

I have no clue what goes in a animations so I was curios. That's interesting

To elaborate: What makes animation expensive are framerate, details and movement. The higher the framerate, the more pictures have to be created. The more details you see, the more time has to be spend on creating each of those pictures. And with more movement there is more you need to redraw for each picture. All this costs manpower or server time, which are the most expensive aspects in animation.

Take for example The Flintstones (or every other Hanna Babera Cartoon). The backgrounds are very simplistic (sometimes practically empty) and get often reused. Then the characters walk, they only move their feet instead of the whole body, as it is the case with more high end animation. They have this high collar or something else around the neck so that they can look around without the animator having to worry about the rest of the body...without this high collar it would look very, very strange. And naturally they only have four fingers. Just in case you have ever wondered why classic cartoon characters tend to have only four fingers, it is cheaper and easier to animate that way. And the movements are sometimes a little bit choppy...choppy animation is often the result of a low framerate. Basically the figure jumps from one movement to the next with not enough steps in-between.

Thus said, a low framerate can be a stylistic choice. It certainly tends to look more edgy, because the higher the framerate, the more fluid the animation.

Edited by Swanpride on Jul 24th 2018 at 6:45:13 AM

In filming you plan a rough outline of everything, then get sets, lighting, rigs, dollys, costume and make-up guys, shoot the thing, and then you're done .... but the animator has to plan all that out BEFORE-hand, to the exact detail, before any of that is actually made, or else a ton more time has ot be spent on revisions. It's a very specific discipline that requires inane capturing of reality into something you create from scratch. This is why fewer animated films are made compared to live-action films (though more and more of those include animated characters anyway), and most believe animation isn't respected for the amount of work that goes into it reflected in lower wages and poorer treatment by investors and companies.

Edited by kyun on Jul 24th 2018 at 7:42:41 AM

Fascinating stuff

Edited by BigBlackBangBro on Jul 24th 2018 at 11:14:04 AM

I've heard of Mayday Parker the daughter of Peter and MJ from an alternate timeline, that one gal from Old Man Logan, Silk, Anna Corazon, and Gwen or... Ghost Spider.

Never heard of Peni Parker, and my quickl Google search only told me that she's... a Spider-Woman with powered armor.

Edited by Soble on Jul 24th 2018 at 9:54:21 AM

This is also why around the mit 1980s, there are suddenly more and more companies in the animation game. Beforehand the cost for a high-quality movie was just too high to make them particularly profitable, especially without the Disney brand attached to it. But with the rise of the computer they could save more and more man-power due to new technology. Though Disney still spends a crazy budget on its movies, but that is usually for software which can be reused and adjusted for multiple movies afterwards.

Thus said, CGI is a little bit less forgiving when it comes to budget cuts...you can put together a really decent animated movie by saving cost left and right - see Disney's Robin Hood - but a low budget CGI animated movie looks just awful.

Sony is in terms of budget somewhere in the middle...not on the level of Disney, Pixar or even Dreamworks, but they put enough money in their movies to make them look decent. And frankly, the style is sometimes interesting (there is a higher likelihood that you get to see something unusual from Sony than from Blue Skies), it is usually the story and the characters where they fail. Hopefully not this time around.

She debuted in Spider-Verse.

She goes to school with the Evangelion kids◊.

New sneak peek trailer

This was also shown during the Spider-Man (PS4) launch video as well!

Neat...though they are actually wrong with them presenting the first bi-racial Superhero. Marvel got there a few years ago with Big Hero 6...Hiro Hamada is half-Asian after all.