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Jan 26th 2020 at 1:38:09 PM

The mom (presumably?) was asking the kid whether he feels ready for first grade, so it seemed like they were *just about to* hit second year.

Anyway, now that I think about it Gran Torino already lasted pretty long for someone who's been such a thorn in AFO's side, huh. Getting Toshinori out of the way when Nana was killed, training both 8th and 9th OFA successors, being a major help in Kamino battle... I guess being a nimble speedster helps one's chances at survival.

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Jan 26th 2020 at 2:19:00 PM

I don't think they are in the second year yet, i would imagine it to have a bit more fanfare than ... well no fanfare at all.

One of my great hopes for Bakugo is that he will explore hero equipment more. Izuku has his boots, leg protectors, arm protectors, gauntlets... Bakugo meanwhile only really has his own gauntlets, and his small grenades. Both of which he's had for a LONG time.

As to deaths... probably one or two major ones at most. Killing named characters isn't Horikoshi's style. What IS his style, however, is maiming and depowering people. The Sludge Villain was scattered, Stain got a punctured lung, Izuku broke his bones, Endeavor has his scar now, All Might has many injuries, Aizawa injured his skull/eyes... Compare that two two named deaths (Night Eye and Mange) and how nobody really cares about them...

Neither Endeavor nor Hawks is likely to remain unscathed.

Edited by devak on Jan 26th 2020 at 11:22:51 AM

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Jan 26th 2020 at 2:29:24 PM

Plus, ya know, Nejire is with the Internship students. She was a third year, meaning if we're entering into the second year, she'd have graduated by now. You could argue she's there due to being on Team Ryukyu like Ochako and Tsuyu, but the shot they had was emphasizing the students being called in due to their internships. Since Nejire is there, we're likely in the very end of the 1st year, assumedly right before graduation.

I fully expect Hawks to get hit by the Quirk Bullet. I know people are tired of the Icarus Allusion argument, but he seems like the obvious option to use it on when he gets outed as a traitor. Just cutting his wings off won't work since he used up all his feathers helping Endeavor beat Hood and regrew his wings back later. He'd have to lose the Quirk altogether to truly lose his wings. So I can see him being shot with one of the bullets, then burned alive by Dabi.

Edited by RebelFalcon on Jan 26th 2020 at 5:32:26 AM

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Jan 26th 2020 at 2:35:11 PM

Hawks losing his feathers isn't really an icarus allusion. Icarus very specifically flew too high and lost his feathers due to the sun, also against specific warnings not to do so. This effectively already happened in the Pro Hero arc. Hawks being depowered is more like if Icarus was shot out of the air with flak.

Edited by devak on Jan 26th 2020 at 11:36:16 AM

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Jan 26th 2020 at 2:59:26 PM

Basically, beware if anyone tells Hawks that he is overdoing it or something.

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Jan 26th 2020 at 3:02:24 PM

Well if Hawks gets outted as a traitor hopefully he makes it out of this alive.

I wouldn't be surprised if the serum is started to being mass-produced by Ujiko already.

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Jan 26th 2020 at 3:10:22 PM

Compare that two two named deaths (Night Eye and Mange) and how nobody really cares about them...

How dare!

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Jan 26th 2020 at 3:15:02 PM

Hey, I cared about Nighteye! I wanted him and Deku to get over their who-is-the-right-successor thing and bond over their shared fanboyism for All Might. And it looks like anime crowd in general were hit more by his death compared to manga crowd at the time too.

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Jan 26th 2020 at 3:18:03 PM

Well the anime does have the benefit of music, animation, and voice-acting so it hit even harder.

Though its good the casual audience has been really hit by it. That's how you know its working.

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Jan 26th 2020 at 3:23:20 PM

I honestly feel like they killed off Night Eye too early in the story. I get that Horikoshi was trying something different with that arc, but Night Eye offered plenty of potential thanks to being Toshinori's ex-sidekick and a more grounded and jaded foil to him. I feel he could have been a useful supporting character that could have come to see Deku as a worthy successor, but still be able to keep him grounded so he doesn't just become another Symbol like All Might was. I'm not asking he make it out unscathed, hell, he could still be heavily wounded and be on life support. I just feel like killing him off in the same arc he was introduced in was a bit of a waste.

Edited by RebelFalcon on Jan 26th 2020 at 6:26:14 AM

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Jan 26th 2020 at 3:30:53 PM

His powerset doomed him from the start.

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Jan 26th 2020 at 3:42:30 PM

I care! I care that Nighteye took up screentime and now he never will forevermore!

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Jan 26th 2020 at 3:43:43 PM

Count me as someone who thinks Nighteye died way too early.

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Jan 26th 2020 at 4:07:02 PM

The impression I have is that the Japanese fandom took Nighteye's death way harder than the rest did.

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Jan 26th 2020 at 4:09:53 PM

I think he died exactly when he needed to, which doesn't make me miss him any less.

Partly because Mirio is a very good boy who didn't deserve losing his father figure and sensei like that. sad

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Jan 26th 2020 at 5:11:06 PM

I think everyone took Nighteye's death hard. It's just that we think from a meta POV that he had more to offer for the story.

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Jan 26th 2020 at 5:54:44 PM

Regarding Hawks being de-Quirked - I don't heet talking about that like it would be a permanent affliction. A way to reverse the process already exists in the serum Overhaul made to do just that. I don't get why people always overlook that considering it was such a vital part of his plan.

And, yeah, the heroes don't know about it but its more existence means it will come up.

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Jan 26th 2020 at 11:25:44 PM

The villains currently possess the counter-serum too. Plus, only 5 exist, whereas more dequirking bullets might be made. Given how the MLA thinks about their fodder, i would expect the reversing bullets to be handed out to the top brass and them only.

Also LSBK: https://oriigami.tumblr.com/post/188927708463/ultra-analysis-overhaul "For a time he was in an alliance with the League of Villains, but after a time where he was attacked by them, both his arms were amputated. He received medical care, but afterwards his reconstruction quirk was scattered."

This is what i meant with an alternate translation for the Overhaul stuff a while back.

Edited by devak on Jan 26th 2020 at 8:28:13 PM

Jan 26th 2020 at 11:32:19 PM

[up]That translation is at odds with how I've seen native Japanese speakers taking it. They very much seem to be "the doctors did something to his Quirk, but what the hell is it?"

Anyway, yes, the villains have it, but that's not the point. The story can come up with any number of ways for the Heroes to find out it exists and recovery it. Also, assuming they can reverse engineer them (which I imagine is highly likely) it's strange for you to expect they wouldn't do the same with the serum, and thus it will always be in a limited quantity but the bullets won't be.

The point is when we know a thing to undo it exists, I don't understand the focus on something that is much less of a sure deal (i.e. Eri).

Edited by LSBK on Jan 26th 2020 at 1:36:56 PM

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Jan 26th 2020 at 11:33:30 PM

I think since Eri is right there people focus on her more instead of the other option that requires a little bit more work.

That or they are not even aware of the existence of the serum.

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 26th 2020 at 11:33:55 AM

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Jan 26th 2020 at 11:37:18 PM

[up]I don't think they were ever made aware of the counter serum.

[up][up]I'm saying that Ujiko may be the only person in the MHA universe who can recreate the bullets, and he (and the PLF) have no use for reversal bullets. Their existence is useful to make their top brass immune to the bullets, but otherwise it can only ever hinder their plans, especially if they intentionally start dequirking people.

And that's assuming OFA won't be coming back and stealing Endeavor's and Hawks'quirk.

Edited by devak on Jan 26th 2020 at 8:37:56 PM

Jan 26th 2020 at 11:38:51 PM

Honestly, that all just sounds like ways to making the glaring sign less glaring to me.

AFO is another matter entirely, but I brought it up because Rebel Falcon specifically mentioned the Quirk Bullets as something to permanently ruin Hawks, and I'm pointing out they are not that because we already know of a guaranteed way to undo it, even if the heroes themselves don't know it themselves yet.

Edited by LSBK on Jan 26th 2020 at 1:43:16 PM

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Jan 27th 2020 at 12:07:17 AM

[up]But i wasn't specifically referring to quirk bullets. I'm simply pointing them out they are still an option. The serum is far from guaranteed to fall into hero hands and restore the quirks.

Overhaul was depowered by removing his hands, AFO is also a means to take quirks. There's plenty of ways, and Horikoshi's style is much more along the lines of horrific-but-not-lethal than it is killing off characters. Hence, that's why i am expecting that.

Edited by devak on Jan 27th 2020 at 9:08:29 PM

Jan 27th 2020 at 12:13:42 AM

I mean, yes? But that's not what I was originally addressing.

Because what I'm doing is saying that people seem to constantly forget the serum exists or act as if it want be significant with the Quirk Bullet plot point and my point is that doesn't really make sense. I'm very confused with the pushback here.

That other things can happen to render a person functionally Quirkless is not the point right now. I'm not saying anything is guaranteed besides them actually being relevant in someway.

Edited by LSBK on Jan 27th 2020 at 2:21:49 PM

Jan 27th 2020 at 12:27:14 AM

So, this whole "let's give Quirks/weapons to everyone and tell them they're entitled to the right to use them however they want in the name of personal freedom" plan sounds oddly familiar, almost like I've seen a different group of supervillains use it already.

(I'm mostly kidding, but I like when action-adventure stories manage to inject just a tiny bit of real-world subtext into their conflicts).


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