Net Neutrality

Fair point. But it may bring down the Trump administration, which would probably lead to the FCC and the relevant forces shifting a bit at least. That's my logic.

Why would it do that? If the Trump administration falls it will just be replaced by the Pence administration, if Pence somehow goes before Trump that he will be replaced by another Republican.

There is no world where there is a democratic president before 2021 and no world where a Republican does anything but their best to keep net neutrality dead.

I don’t know what you’re finding hard to understand, that all Republicans (not just Trump) hate net neutrality or that the Republicans cannot looses control over the executive branch until 2020 (and thus 2021 when the winner in 2020 is sworn in).

edited 10th May '18 1:58:12 PM by Silasw

I get all that. I'm just thinking that a sufficiently massive domino effect could start and sweep out most if not all of the current administration, meaning not just Trump but most/all his cronies too. Unlikely, but possible.

edited 10th May '18 2:00:56 PM by TroperOnAStickV2

I wouldn't hold out hope for that. Also, you have to go pretty far down the list of succession to find someone normal so that would need to be one hell of a clean sweep. [1]

You don’t just need to sweep down the line if sucession, you need the ability to do that, so you need the Dems to get a senate super majority of senators willing to keep impeaching until they hit a democrat.

So let’s be generous and assume that the Dems win big in November, by that I mean an unprecedentedly huge sweep that has never happened before in history, they take 6 seats from the Republicans, at that point you just need 11 more Republican Senators to resign or be expelled and be replaced by Democrats, then you could impeach a Republican when the next in line for sucession is a Democrat.

Because you will never get Republicans to impeach a Republican president without another Republican being next in the line of succession.

V2 you’re still not getting it, the Republican won’t give up control of the executive branch willingly, Net neutrality is dead as far as legislation is concerned, and people who voted for Trump in 2016 have to accept that they caused this with their actions and that no amount of whining about things or hoping for the impossible will change what they did, even if they didn’t realise it at the time due to being total fucking shitbag idiots.

edited 10th May '18 2:09:05 PM by Silasw

The lawsuits, on the other hand, are still in play, so there are reasons not to give up entirely. Plus large states like California have committed to protecting NN.

edited 10th May '18 2:32:23 PM by DeMarquis

That's one of the reasons i'm voting for Beto, a Democrat senitor might install net laws in texas.

Honestly impeaching Trump and then continuing until you get a Democrat would be the worst idea possible, it would be a blatant soft coup that would damage the Democratic Party's standing for years to come. I'd much rather have a lameduck Republican President who doesn't harm anything due to their lack of power who gets voted out come 2020.

edited 11th May '18 12:11:01 PM by Fourthspartan56

There is always a temptation, when retaking power from a party that has abused you, to try to fix everything and ensure that power can never return to them, forever. But politics is a game for public support. Alienate a majority of voters and you lose. Thats the mistake the Republicans are making.

Some good news: top AT&T lobbyist Bob Quinn is retiring in the wake of the Cohen incident.

"In defeat, malice. In victory, revenge." That's been the Republican motto for a while now.

They really did not take losing the WH to Bill Clinton well.

Seems to me like they took losing to Obama much worse. Then again I was barely a toddler when Clinton was elected so I wouldn't know.

In their eyes, Bill “stole” the WH from them. After three consecutive terms, the GOP felt entitled to the WH.

So the snowflakes they like to tease about is basically pot calling kettle black in this case.

It always is.

The difference is that "the Left"'s snowflakes are nowhere near to being in charge, instead just being a vocal minority some idiot on 4chan keeps complaining about.

Yea, whereas the right-wing wholeheartedly embraced their lunatic fringe. Which says a lot.

Although this is veering off-topic.

Back on topic: the Senate is to vote on 16 May about restoring net neurality rules.

Lets hope something good comes of this.

No kidding (knocks on wood)

I'm absolutely confident that something good will come of this, when it fails we can use Republicans voting records to nail them to the wall come midterms.

What gives you that good feeling?

Wait, didn't they just hold a vote to get rid of Net Neutrality? Now they're voting to replace it just a week or two later? Am I missing something?

I think they're trying again because on of the republicans who voted against net neutrality can't vote due to heath reasons.