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IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014
#11726: Feb 16th 2019 at 10:02:19 AM

Ah, I love the continued confirmation that seat ranking means absolutely nothing if 7th seat is equal to the 1st seat.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#11727: Feb 16th 2019 at 10:33:27 AM

It makes perfect sense!

Souma > Hayama and Alice
Hayama, Alice and Ryou >> Takumi
Souma = Takumi
Subaru > Takumi
Souma > Subaru
Souma still = Takumi
Garbage > Megumi
Megumi = infinite potential

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#11728: Feb 16th 2019 at 10:40:07 AM

Consistency, what's that :V

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TheMageofFire Since: May, 2012
#11729: Feb 16th 2019 at 10:43:30 AM

A poor martyr sacrificed to the Shonen status quos.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#11730: Feb 16th 2019 at 10:52:05 AM

Woah come on; it makes complete sense. Obviously Takumi and Megumi are holding back their power levels. They've always been better than the others, they just didn't want to show it off out of pride.

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#11732: Feb 16th 2019 at 10:54:49 AM

That does sound like a humorous way to end the Knife feud, I'll say that. Still a shame that Morisaki came down with preggers, because at least the recipes would be nice to look forward to.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#11733: Feb 16th 2019 at 10:57:38 AM

Truly a terrible condition, the preggers. I hear it's contagious. Women keep seeming to catch it.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#11734: Feb 16th 2019 at 10:59:24 AM

Alright joking aside; this chapter isn't bad in a vacuum. But man...the lack of buildup just makes it so hard to care about anything lol.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Feb 16th 2019 at 1:59:34 PM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#11735: Feb 16th 2019 at 12:20:33 PM

I get it’s their warrior pride & all but I can’t stop thinking “For the love of God, turn down a fucking match for once or at least take the mezzaluna out the betting......... wait why do you keep betting it at this point?”

When Joey won back his Red Eyes Black Dragon Yugi/Atem didn’t get all pissy about it & constantly challenge him to win it back.

[up] It does highlight how much their relationship has grown & the pacing is more decent than most fights this arc.

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 16th 2019 at 12:21:13 PM

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Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#11736: Feb 16th 2019 at 12:42:51 PM

It's in character for Souma to be petty like that, though. Ideally he would have developed as a character, but I think it's clear the manga believes he doesn't need to change.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#11737: Feb 16th 2019 at 12:55:39 PM

And if anything, Takumi is just as obsessive about Soma so its not like it doesn't fit. It's just...it really doesn't change that all of this is just kind of happening with no real weight to it whatsoever.

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Saiga (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#11738: Feb 16th 2019 at 2:12:22 PM

I think this was a good chapter, and I don't think this particular match needed more chapters dedicated to it. The backstory for Taking getting his Mezzaluna back is funny and in character. I also like that he and Souma are more even and they aren't just tiers apart due to the E 10 rankings.

It's just a shame about the Noir stuff and the other duels being so rushed.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#11739: Feb 16th 2019 at 2:15:30 PM

Wasn't there mention of Alice, Ryo, and Hayama, switching ranks a lot? I don't think we're even supposed to think there's a super strict hierarchy in the Elite 10 anymore.

I too enjoyed the chapter.

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#11740: Feb 16th 2019 at 4:39:49 PM

As mentioned; Elite 10 rankings stopped mattering a while ago. So it doesn't really matter where anyone is.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#11741: Feb 16th 2019 at 5:46:30 PM

The idea of ranking people in a strict order of best to worst over cooking really couldn't hold up anyway.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#11742: Feb 16th 2019 at 6:15:15 PM

Well, not necessarily. I would assume that it's not like the first seat would always beat the second, who would always beat the third. Rather, the win ratio between the first and second and second and third would, barring other circumstances like Jouichirou hating paperwork, be tilted towards the higher seat. So using Tsukasa, Rindou, Megishima and Momo, Tsukasa might win 60% of matches against Rindou, 90% against Megishima and from Momo on down would always win.

That still wouldn't explain Takumi's totally inconsistent performance, though. First seat and seventh seat is a massive gap.

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#11743: Feb 16th 2019 at 6:20:58 PM

Only as big as the gaps between individual seats. This would suggest to me that the entire Elite 10 (bar Megumi) is relatively well balanced. The example of Alice, Ryou and Harama constantly judging supports a small gap in that range, and I'm sure Hayama and Ryou are still meant to be competitive with Souma.

Arha Since: Jan, 2010
#11744: Feb 16th 2019 at 6:25:50 PM

I meant in general terms, yes. Like yeah, Hayama beating Souma if they had a rematch wouldn't shock me, but Takumi beating Hayama would be a Wait What moment for me.

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#11745: Feb 16th 2019 at 6:40:58 PM

Its the lack of consistency that's the biggest stickler; its not that I don't mind Takumi being on par with Soma, but then it calls into question how he stacks compared to the other members. Is he meant to be better than Ryou, Hayama, and Alice?

The Elite 10 don't really have to be a strict "1>2>3 etc etc", but it should give you a general idea on where everyone is relative to each other. Even Rindou said that Eizan could be way better if he bothered to actually work for it.

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Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#11746: Feb 16th 2019 at 6:49:31 PM

The current ranking should theoretically be a better indications of skill than the old ones- back when it was hard to convince an elite ten member to gamble their seat, it was more 'what number seat did you convince somebody to unwisely risk' than anything else; people did put more value on lower numbered seats, but in practice the ranks were pretty static and not a good indication of skill when you're comparing in between elite ten members.

Now, everyone is constantly actively defending their spots. Because they're all so close together, and rankings are more or less arbitrary on a moment-to-moment basis, but in the long term, everyone's going to end up with an average rank that's a decent indicator of their win rate.

Shlugo_the_great Since: Sep, 2009
#11747: Feb 17th 2019 at 4:06:35 AM

Souma is first seat, but can't even get a solid majority of leads on the seventh seat. Say what you will about the old E10 but at least Eishi was a lot better than Eizan.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#11748: Feb 17th 2019 at 4:12:22 AM

The point of a top 10 is too determine who's the best and who's the best among the best with clear intent to designate the level of superiority each member has over the other.

If the holders of the numerical positions are unclear & subject to change like playing the lottery, then there's no point in numerical ranks.

At this point they should just be considered the general most elite chefs in the academy & leave it at that.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#11749: Feb 17th 2019 at 8:50:55 AM

[up][up][up] That's not really true, because Tsukasa for instance was straight up better than the other 9 members and he was the only one who won every single match straight up. Rindou was able to beat the 3rd seat, and the main reason Nene was so pissed at Isshiki was because she knew he was better than his ranking implied.

So it kind of stands to reason that the previous group's rankings were meant to be indicative of each other. There was no real hint that they just so happened to get lucky as you said. They just never saw any reason to bet their seats when their opposition had nothing of value to put up equal to it.

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Gilphon Since: Oct, 2009
#11750: Feb 17th 2019 at 9:29:03 AM

Surely what you just said about Isshiki and what you said yesterday about Eizan are exactly proving my point- they both could have gotten higher ranks, but neither even bothered to try for that, so they both just stuck with whatever rank they initially got. And Erina did the same. And the third seat guy hated Shokugekis, so there's no way he made an active effort to climb, and would've been extremely difficult to dislodge from his seat.

And, like, outside of Tsukasa being definitely the best, nobody ever treated the rankings as anything other than the roughest possible guide to relative skill.


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