Shokugeki No Soma

I mean Im cynical but Im taking jabs at it as it keeps me invested and liking the series.

Especially now that Azami is gone forever.

If I want cute idealism Id play Kirby where we play a cute ball who brutally slaughters everything in his way and half the time unleashes an all powerful evil in his hungry cruasde.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Sep 13th 2018 at 8:02:46 AM

I didn't say otherwise. It's just interesting considering how into it some of you used to be.

I mean, it's not the first time.

I used to think Fairy Tail was pretty good at one point, same with Bleach and Naruto.

Quality drops are kind of inevitable when a series has been running long enough, especially given the rigorous environments authors are forced to work in. It's just something I don't like seeing because I used to enjoy it.

But I've kind of accepted it now and just take the piss out of it to give myself some fun.

Is this really that much better than the Azami arc? I really don't think so, they're about the same in terms of shit to me.

And I got into this way after when the Azami Arc started so I was never able to see optimism.

Like I said there should be a list of shonen that did not succumb to massive Seasonal Rot.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 13th 2018 at 8:12:45 AM

I'd rank it above Azami at the moment. That can change, especially if they bring Azami back.

Yeah, but I didn't get into any of those before the (perceived) decline happened.

I mean, I guess you just really hated Azami huh.

Personally, I think him and Asahi are both shit so...meh.

I mean, it's all subjective. But reading all of those series from their relative beginnings to what they became, I noticed a definite....declinement of enjoyment.

For perspective, while I will acknowledge One Piece's quality as fluctuating in the years it's been running, I don't think I'm anywhere near as cynical about it as I was towards Bleach or Naruto.

I seriously hope Souma and the others just call the police, who sort out the entire thing offscreen. Like I don't see how you can cook your way through a kidnapping.

I've been saying that ever since Asahi stated he wants to impregnate Erina.

The man is over 20 & she's like 16/17.

Its pretty much ebephelia or however its spelled the term that means "to have a sexual attraction to a teenager."

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 13th 2018 at 8:24:10 AM

I forgot about that. Definitely Azami 1.1 in the making

I think people are being overly cynical, and exaggerating things to the point of it getting silly.

I mean, if this series followed logic, cops would’ve been called the moment Hinako and Donato flirted with Megumi...

That's not what ebephillia is, and Asahi being attracted to her isn't illegal. It's only illegal if she doesn't reciprocate.

Now kidnapping her on the other hand is very much illegal. But it will be resolved with cooking...because this is a Shonen.

(shrug) I either take the piss out of this series to get some enjoyment out of it or I'm just going to continuously get upset reading. And I'd much rather get some ironic enjoyment than just endless shit on the series.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Sep 13th 2018 at 11:29:40 AM

Its les that Saiga and more the series didnlt fully embrace being over the top. Its actually been a problem as the plot gets more ridiculous.

Like Beyblade an entire franchise about spinning top got so ridiculous one of the later series revealed Moses parted the Red Sea with a Spinning Top as Alexander the Great and Genghis Khan destroyed armies with tiny spinning tops.

Huh.

Hmmmh still pretty unprofessional to be going after your still in high-school boss.

Isn't there supposed to be job etiquette?

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 13th 2018 at 8:33:52 AM

Well for one, he's not a full time employee of hers.

I'd honestly think the series would be a bit worse if it did that, because it's far too off base from what it started as. Difference between this series and something like Beyblade is that things didn't start as ridiculous as they are now.

No I was actually using that as an example of getting too ridiculous even for an anime about spinning tops.

Also, like, Erina can just fire him right? And then get a restraining order?

Not like I want that to happen, but it'd be funny if someone brings these things up, and they shoot it down because chef's pride or whatever.

I mean, if the series was going to escalate (which seems inevitable for most Shonen it seems), there were much better ways of doing it lol.

Kinda reminds me of Hueco Mundo when they all split up despite no reason to besides "Muh pride"

...oh man, they're going to do that when we inevitably storm the castle.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Sep 13th 2018 at 11:40:56 AM

Honestly, rereading it all at once rather than week by week, I don't think the Azami arc was actually that bad until the promotion exams, and then only because there were those filler instructors and then a rushed conclusion to the whole thing. Azami was over the top but in terms of child abuse and stranger danger signals he was... passable. More should have been made of that angle than the dystopia cooking thing and more emphasis placed on why his ideas don't really work. Like the students who don't know why they follow certain steps or how Nene blindly follows recipes rather than coming up with them on her own.

I do feel that that Asahi thing is worse, though, largely because there is no reasonable solution to a kidnapping or other serious crimes that involves cooking. And because Azami's personal connection to a main character served a clear purpose while Asahi could be literally anyone and nothing would change, so making him Souma's (sort of) brother is just being silly.

Okay I'll prolly just look for whatever reason to make him look bad.

That's the funny thing about this series. Its over the top but the setting is still more or less realistic.

It just tumbled down because Azami's food nazi's & bringing in a good vs evil plot was too much. I mean its fucking food, unless its poisonous or unhealthy it can't be evil.

Edited by slimcoder on Sep 13th 2018 at 8:39:24 AM

I mean, my main issues with the Azami arc was just the sidelining of certain characters, how long it dragged on for, and how rushed the conclusion was. Azami himself worked fine as an outside force that other characters reacted to; bringing him in to be one of the judges was a mistake though because he didn't really offer anything beyond "MUWAHAHAHAHA, YOU DEFINITELY, POSITIVELY, CANNOT WIN". And had the unforeseen consequences of invalidating the main rivals who were built up for that arc.

I think the point to making him a judge was so that he would feel his defeat personally at Erina's hands rather than just having another judge tell him he lost.

I have more to say about it than that but writing further was getting kind of lengthy and started going into 'well if I was writing this then I'd have done X' territory, which is something that's grown kind of annoying for me lately when I see other people do it.

They could have tried the dish right after the judges and have a breakdown then.

I think that Asahi being connected to Saiba is a decent way to bring Saiba's philosophy back and show that it can be pretty selfish.

The dark chef and kidnapping, though, yeah that makes things worse than Azami.