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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#61176: Oct 29th 2020 at 6:26:32 AM

Turning off the comments of that video was the smartest thing they ever did.

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#61177: Oct 29th 2020 at 6:29:36 AM

It was youtube's decision to remove comments on videos flagged for kids as I recall

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Snicka Since: Jun, 2011
#61178: Oct 29th 2020 at 6:59:11 AM

Yes, YouTube's policy is to not allow any comments under kids' videos, so that no inappropriate comments appear under them.

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#61179: Oct 29th 2020 at 11:59:00 AM

I looked into reuploads and reactions of the video...

Big mistake. I was right, it's not about the "criticisms" against the show. Apperantly, trying to send a good message attracts the worst kind of people.

It still sickens me that there are more dislikes than likes.

Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#61180: Oct 29th 2020 at 12:12:50 PM

It ends proving the video’s own point. Racism isn’t rare and obscure, it’s common and screaming for attention.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Oct 29th 2020 at 12:13:24 PM

Schwarzwelt Since: Jul, 2020
#61181: Oct 29th 2020 at 4:20:51 PM

Edited by Schwarzwelt on Oct 31st 2020 at 6:19:26 PM

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#61182: Oct 29th 2020 at 4:49:04 PM

1) The ad is an anvil to the head, so much that instead of creating a message of acceptance, it creates what can be described as: what is your side, with or against black people?; this leads to creating more racist people, just like an anti-drugs campaign can lead young people to try drugs out of curiosity.

2) The as is an example of how they are promoting minorities as a way of creating influence, basically creating an agenda to please SJW; and again, it is anvil to the head. "Ok we get it, we already know that we should be respecting others regardless of who they are, you need to repeat that again?

To be honest, if those people genuinely believe that being confronted on racism is an ultimatum that itself pushes them to defensively be more racist, then no - they don't know they should be respecting others and probably do need to hear more of it.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Oct 29th 2020 at 4:49:33 AM

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#61183: Oct 29th 2020 at 4:49:53 PM

It should be noted that this is mostly Values Dissonance, since, kinda obviously, we don't face a problem of racism

Sorry but that's just a complete lie. Racism is a big problem in a lot of latin american countries, including the one i live (brazil) in which had a long history of slavery and decimation of native tribes just like the US.

Also anyone who says an anti-racism ad made them more racist (or uses "sjw" unironically) already had problems, just saying.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Oct 29th 2020 at 8:52:08 AM

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#61184: Oct 29th 2020 at 4:51:49 PM

Edited by Schwarzwelt on Oct 31st 2020 at 6:19:17 PM

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#61185: Oct 29th 2020 at 4:57:06 PM

"don't be a racist" must be so offensive to actual racists clearly

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#61186: Oct 29th 2020 at 5:02:44 PM

Did they stop watching during the cheesy in universe PSA and assume that was the short?

Like yeah that's an anvil because it's a homage to the hamfisted psas of the 80's, but the actual short, while blunt, is just "racism was and is still a thing, even if it doesn't effect to you personally".

Edited by Crossover-Enthusiast on Oct 29th 2020 at 8:03:35 AM

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#61187: Oct 29th 2020 at 5:04:50 PM

Edit: Putting more think on it, are we talking about the past or the present?, because I'm completely aware of the past, I was talking about racism in the present era.

Yes, in the present era. The current brazilian president (jair bolsonaro) has made multiple racist statements towards black and native people, black people here are routinely harrassed and killed by the police just like the US, in bolivia there was a massive political upheaval and protests which included white supremacists, etc.

Maybe it's not something you personally experienced where you live but that doesn't mean it isn't real.

Edited by Draghinazzo on Oct 29th 2020 at 9:06:56 AM

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#61188: Oct 29th 2020 at 5:07:05 PM

Edited by Schwarzwelt on Oct 31st 2020 at 6:19:08 PM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#61189: Oct 30th 2020 at 8:42:31 AM

"don't be a racist" must be so offensive to actual racists clearly

It is actually, otherwise people wouldn't get so offended by it. Depending on the person, they'll probably assume they're better than they actually are, and get offended when you (rightfully) point out that no, they are in fact not perfect.

Ignorance is bliss and what not; people assume because they can't see racism or it doesn't affect them personally, it must mean that it doesn't exist or people are "overreacting". Especially when the people who aren't affected by racism, are the usually the ones benefiting from it.

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thatother1dude Ready to see true darkness from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#61190: Oct 30th 2020 at 9:12:38 PM

If you ask "What is the history of racism in [location larger than a football field that's been inhabited for longer than one lifetime]?", someone may say "There really isn't one." They may believe that, but you sure shouldn't.

To put a childish spin on the short's title, "He who denies it, supplies it."

Edited by thatother1dude on Oct 30th 2020 at 11:17:35 AM

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#61191: Nov 1st 2020 at 9:00:10 PM

I want to bring up something I think may be a bit controversial: Talking solves everything aesops. Is that a bad lesson for kids?

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#61192: Nov 1st 2020 at 9:10:17 PM

It's important to remember that the entire series was conceived and plotted out before it even aired. Rose Quartz being Pink Diamond was planned from the very start, and it's easy to extrapolate from that that the other Diamonds being redeemed was also planned from the very start. The series' big twists were planned since when it started, when Obama was president.

8 years ago, "everyone is capable of redemption and can be convinced to be a better person" would not have been a controversial message whatsoever. It's only with the massive political upheaval that has happened in the last 4 years that that moral sounds a tad naive.

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#61193: Nov 1st 2020 at 9:29:50 PM

I have way more of a problem with Steven and his behavior in Future than I do with that.

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thatother1dude Ready to see true darkness from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#61194: Nov 1st 2020 at 9:44:44 PM

Talking mostly certainly did not "solve everything". The Crystal Gems still had to resort to force (though not irreparable violence) quite often, even just a means to survive long enough to communicate.

The show usually contrived things so the communication part was the climax and physical confrontation the buildup. Other shows quite often do the opposite (i.e. the narrative contrives negotiation to fail, thus justifying force or violence) without people concluding the lesson is "force solves everything".

Edited by thatother1dude on Nov 1st 2020 at 11:45:33 AM

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#61195: Nov 2nd 2020 at 1:51:01 AM

> Talking solves everything aesops. Is that a bad lesson for kids?

Its not bad lesson for kids to talk about their problems instead of bottling them up so it contributes to a decline in their mental health,that's my take away from it

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Tuckerscreator (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#61196: Nov 2nd 2020 at 6:12:50 PM

The show usually contrived things so the communication part was the climax and physical confrontation the buildup. Other shows quite often do the opposite (i.e. the narrative contrives negotiation to fail, thus justifying force or violence) without people concluding the lesson is "force solves everything".

Pretty much this.

Also, the consequence of telling kids that one should resort to force instead is far greater? Looking back on my childhood, there were a couple of situations where trying to negotiate with a bully didn't solve anything (they were either stubborn or took it as a chance to just get in another blow), but going in full throttle all arms swinging for a fight would've gotten my face smashed into the pavement so much harder. Followed by being punished by the adults around (even if they wouldn't do anything if I didn't fight back at all.) At least more kids being encouraged to try to settle things peacefully likely means less bullies overall even if they won't all go away.

Edited by Tuckerscreator on Nov 2nd 2020 at 6:15:38 AM

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#61197: Nov 26th 2020 at 9:25:20 PM

Found this while browsing YouTube, forgot how depressed this song made me feel.

Still need to read or watch Utena at some point.

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#61200: Dec 3rd 2020 at 9:29:15 AM

Pearl is in a classroom, where she's talking about black historical figures, and doesn't like how history talks about the accomplishments of only white people.


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