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After introducing a love interest to Kanshi, they go address the semi-pre-established relationship between Keigo and Nemu. I wonder if Miharu is getting something too.

Anyways, what we got was pretty great. Very natural expansion on what all characters involved already had, and despite being a far more serious episode than the norm, still managed to fit some really good gags, like Nemu's additional comment on Wolf's pecs.

To be fair to Nemu those are some sublime pecs haha.

Alright, issue 20!

Front color: Jujutsu Kaisen
Center color: Mashle, Ayakashi Triangle, Pain Killer (one-shot by Miyashiki Tsubasa)
Absent: One Piece, Boku no Hero Academia

1. Sakamoto Days
2. Nigejouzu no Wakagimi
3. Ao no Hako
4. Koukousei Kazoku
5. Chikyuu no Ko
6. Witch Watch
7. Akane-banashi
8. Black Clover
9. Boku to Roboco
10. PPPPPP
11. Yozakura-san Chi no Daisakusen
12. Undead Unluck
13. Doron Dororon
14. Ayashimon
15. Mamore! Shugomaru

The two grandpas are absent this week, that leaves some space for other series to take the spotlight. =]

Earthchild hasn’t dropped off yet, neither has Akanebanashi. Hopefully that lasts for the latter, and hopefully the former will finally take off before its too late.

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Akanebnashi has a Judge Ooka story this week. I've seen other stories with him, (and used them at Toastmasters) but in a much more condensed format.

Edited by SKJAM on Apr 17th 2022 at 8:26:27 AM

Earthchild just seem like it going nowhere. Also every chapter filled with exposition doesn't help. And then there the inconsistency problem...

And that not how blackhole work

Edited by BattleRaizer on Apr 17th 2022 at 11:16:22 PM

E.T technically is a Isekai movie

MARRIAGETOXIN certainly caught my interest.

The transplant thing just got a Flat "What" out of me.

‘My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.’

Weekly Shonen Jump #21/22 (2022)

LCP: One Piece

CP: One Shot, Haikyuu (Special Chapter), Undead Unluck

1. Jujutsu Kaisen

2. My Hero Academia

3. Akane Banashi

4. Sakamoto Days

5. Black Clover

6. Me & Roboco

7. The Elusive Samurai

8. Earthchild

9. Mission: Yozakura Family

10. PPPPPP

11. Witch Watch

12. Blue Box

13. Mashle

14. High School Family

15. Doron Dororon

16. Ayashimon

17. Protect Me, Shugomaru!

Note: This is a double issue so next week won't have new issue.

Note: Black Clover will go on a short hiatus, starting from issue 23.

Note: A new series will start in issue 23, the title is "Awesome Smartphone" (not official) and apparently it's about a guy with a smartphone that can search everything (that is the only information we get about the series)

E.T technically is a Isekai movie

Man, I can already see the axe by the title and premise alone. Hopefully I’m wrong.

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If it's an isekai like the other one I'm out.

It definitely sounds like the worst idea for a serialization since I started reading.

You can just assume nothing starts in this magazine with an actual plan even a few volumes ahead, so why should we expect a premise like that to hold water indefinitely?

Wrong thread.

Edited by WashTheLaundryHero on Apr 22nd 2022 at 12:12:10 PM

I heard someone say Ayakashi Triangle is moving to the app exclusively?

If so then that seems like an indication of Jump looking for alternate solutions for moderate successes and promising series to not get axed early during the current flagship shortage. Cutthroat competition is good, but it's not helpful to murder too many series that are likely to grow into decent successes.

Marriagetoxin was fun. Was not expecting an LGBT shounen manga.

-sigh- Lost passwords...

If it got axed it often mean it not attracting readers or showing any promise, changing the magazine not gonna fix that.

AT changing magazine is more due to the author request rather than not having readers.

Edited by BattleRaizer on Apr 24th 2022 at 5:52:53 PM

E.T technically is a Isekai movie

The magazine adds new series to a set schedule which makes regular axings practically mandatory.

But Jump has been getting in a pickle with the balance of new versus "veteran" series, where there simultaneously have been too many veterans but also too many veterans set to end, as well as a bunch of moderate successes in the battleground slots to further crowd out newbies. It's an unpredictable timing issue now that Jump is no longer based around the milking model where the ideal is for a series to stretch as long as possible.

And Jump knows well that a series exploding into the top ranks from the getgo is desirable but unrealistic for producing flagships. Kimetsu no Yaiba is pound for pound the best selling manga of all time, but it was only ever a moderate success in its first years. I remember people predicting it would be in the Under 20 club when it started, even calling it "Kimetsu no Cancel". The author having to speed up certain plot points faster than intended.

Jump has been in the position before where the space to compete was way too small for newcomers, but back then it also had lots more firmly established older series to provide the publication itself stability. Now it pretty much has neither, which needs new solutions. Jump can't rely on One Piece forever to hold the ceiling up.

Edited by BrainBlowX on Apr 24th 2022 at 6:42:15 AM

-sigh- Lost passwords...

Eh that just the loud Westerners minority speaking and from what I saw, Western fans of WSJ are often wrong about what gonna be a hit and what gonna be axed. Kn Y was pretty well-receive in Japan when it came out, it even have early CP. And the fact that Kn Y was a moderate hit with good rating is what keep it in the magazine. The axed series not only aren't moderate hit but their ranking are terrible too (Samurai 8, Red Hood, TPGW,...). Basically the ranking reflect the series potential to grow it fanbase and how much confident Jump have in it which are things Jump looking for. Even the rushed plot point thing is fault since the author interview said that the first editor and the author already planned out the plot of entire series from the beginning.

Edited by BattleRaizer on Apr 24th 2022 at 9:12:42 PM

E.T technically is a Isekai movie

That feels a bit disingenuous. The fact that there are plenty of series that were popular among Westerners but cut off at the vine among Japanese readers doesn't mean that those series were inherently bad, just that they were more to Western tastes than Japanese. Digital platforms like Jump+ mean that Western opinions are now monetizable to manga companies just like Japanese opinions, although there are some growing pains. Doesn't mean that the super-domestic appeal was better, or that the culturally-universal appeal is better. It is what it is, and what it is will probable not be clear until this technology becomes more entrenched.

From what I saw about the series that have more Western appeal, those series are often have novelty ideas but horrible execution of said ideas. Western fans simply place to much value on the premier alone that they often ignore the execution of a series. So it not really about taste but rather Japanese and Western fans place emphasis on difference aspect of a series and in this case, Japanese fans have better idea about where to focus. Ideas are cheap, execution is expensive.

E.T technically is a Isekai movie

The problem with that view is survivorship bias. The only series we get to see blossom and grow are ones that Japanese fans liked, and continued to like for long enough to make a decent-length serialization. If Western fans like it and Japanese fans don't, it's cancelled before it has a chance to grow beyond that first impression.

The one that got axed did got time to blossom though, they just didn't blossom to anything worthwhile. Those series had fundamental issues that the authors failed to address or should have been iron out before serialization. And Western fans just keep praising those series while ignoring the fatal flaws because they often only see the potential rather than the reality. TPGW is a manga about making manga where the writer has no idea what the main focus is, no drama and have no understand how the medium he want to talk about work. Red Hood is an adventure manga that spend too much time not adventuring, Samurai 8 rely too much on exposition and world building without making the readers engage first. Like I said, it not that Western fans and Japanese fans have different taste but rather Western fans just care too much about the premier that they willingly ignore the flaws of those series. "It get good after X chapter" is not a good sale pitch.

Edited by BattleRaizer on Apr 24th 2022 at 10:46:08 PM

E.T technically is a Isekai movie

Got around to reading Goodbye Eri, it was a great one shot and a fantastic story. I love how much was left to interpretation.

I also read the final chapter of Magu-Chan God of Destruction, it was beautifully bittersweet.

"They truly were a Aqua Teen Hunger Force"

Man seeing the Choujin spoilers by accident and it can’t come soon enough.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.

Just read Goodbye, Eri…

Fujimoto really has a knack for showing the ugliest and most beautiful sides of humanity simultaneously. I might have liked this one even more than Look Back.

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I felt it was both sad and uplifting.

Edited by Cortez on Apr 25th 2022 at 10:42:51 AM

"They truly were a Aqua Teen Hunger Force"

I don't think the Japanese/foreign divide in some series' reception is as much about taste as format. In Japan, new series in Weekly Shonen Jump primarily have to get readers and positive feedback from within the established, paying reader base. People reading in English and some other languages can get into a new series for free, even if they're not reading anything else in the magazine—not coincidentally, that's how Jump+ works.

There are many possible reasons for the magazine change—seeking a new audience, a better schedule, looser content/editor restrictions—and it's impossible to tell which was most important.

In any case, it's off to a good start. The first new chapter got about a million views in its first 24 hours. That's similar to Mato Seihei no Slave and Dandadan, and about a third of Spy x Family or Kaiju #8. The series in total has about 6 million views in its first 8 days, though that's spread over 89 free chapters.

Can we expect the author to up the ecchiness through the roof like he did with TLR Darkness?

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