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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#41751: Aug 21st 2019 at 11:20:54 AM

I've never been nice a day in my life and I'm not going to start now

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GrigorII Since: Aug, 2011
#41752: Aug 21st 2019 at 11:34:32 AM

I was talking about this. And we don't need to go back to the Ultimates, things are looking grim for the Wasp right now.

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#41753: Aug 21st 2019 at 11:42:38 AM

[up] That clearly isn't Hank, though, it's Ultron. The last of Hank's soul was eaten by Devondra.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#41754: Aug 21st 2019 at 11:46:03 AM

Is Ultron looking like Metallo done on purpose?

GrigorII Since: Aug, 2011
#41755: Aug 21st 2019 at 11:59:48 AM

[up][up]Ultron and the wife beater come in the same package since some time. This isn't new.

Ultimate Secret Wars
RedM Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
#41756: Aug 21st 2019 at 12:11:19 PM

Is the AI piloting Tony’s armor the same as the AI Tony from when he was in that coma after Civil War II?

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alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#41757: Aug 21st 2019 at 12:50:53 PM

Ultron and the wife beater come in the same package since some time. This isn't new.
  1. Please stop calling Hank Pym "the wife beater." It's insensitive.
  2. No, Ultron is merely wearing Hank's skin, it's not actually Hank. Like I've already stated, the last of Hank's soul was eaten by Devondra during Infinity Countdown.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#41758: Aug 21st 2019 at 12:58:56 PM

[up][up][up] You are a terrible person with an awful sense of humor to keep calling him that.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Dirtyblue929 Since: Dec, 2012 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#41759: Aug 21st 2019 at 1:15:50 PM

It’s Grigor, what do you expect?

RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
Professional Complainer
#41760: Aug 21st 2019 at 1:41:34 PM

Specifically Ultron freed himself from Hank when Hank's soul was eaten by a spider monster while he hallucinated all his friends liked him, and I typed that out because it never stops being hilarious.

Edited by RodimusMinor on Aug 21st 2019 at 4:42:35 AM

Aleistar Since: Feb, 2018 Relationship Status: Hugging my pillow
#41761: Aug 21st 2019 at 1:41:40 PM

Y'all, Rodimus said it best:

Grigor only reads Ultimate Marvel so its natural that his only view of Hank Pym is that tragic comedy.

Revolutionary_Jack Since: Sep, 2018
#41762: Aug 21st 2019 at 1:57:02 PM

One of the biggest problems women who experience Domestic Abuse have is that media frames abusers as "wife-beaters" or Evil All Along because it gives the lie that normal average men aren't capable of doing it, intelligent people, even those of good background and otherwise good people and so on, can't do it and so forth. The point of Hank's downfall in Avengers #211-230 is to show yeah, Hank's a superhero, he also abused Janet, no him beating a bad guy doesn't make up or redeem what he did in his personal life.

Ultimate Hank Pym gives no reason as to why Ultimate Janet would ever have fallen for that guy in the first place. It makes Hank in later issues so erratic and so dysfunctional that its amazing that he got a degree to start with. You can't be a bag of messes all the time as a character.

So yeah, it's cheapening stuff and reductive, and not at all cool to do that.

alliterator Since: Jan, 2001
#41763: Aug 21st 2019 at 2:16:08 PM

Ooh, in November, Captain Marvel is going dark. I like the design of Evil Captain Marvel.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#41764: Aug 21st 2019 at 2:18:07 PM

It’s better than the boring gray SHIELD variant she had in Time Runs Out

I’m worried about Evil Captain Marvel because Civil War Minority Report wasn’t so long ago. Maybe she can have a solid stretch of time without going evil or fucking everything up

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#41765: Aug 21st 2019 at 2:20:23 PM

So is she Russian now? tongue

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Akirakan Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#41766: Aug 21st 2019 at 2:34:42 PM

Btw, did CW 2 had any lasting consequences that are felt to this day?

The original had a huge impact in the universe as a whole, and it's impact was felt for years afterwards. But 2? I can't really think of anything that is holding up until now. Maybe the current status quo of Hulk, but that is it's own story.

GrigorII Since: Aug, 2011
#41767: Aug 21st 2019 at 2:35:33 PM

If it was just Ultron with no Pym, why would he care about Jan being with Tony?

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#41768: Aug 21st 2019 at 2:38:40 PM

Ultron has an Oedipus Complex.

[up][up] Not to my recollection no. I think everyone in-universe has forgotten CW 2.

Edited by slimcoder on Aug 21st 2019 at 2:39:54 AM

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RedM Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
#41769: Aug 21st 2019 at 2:40:17 PM

[up]I think there was a gram of Tony/Carol side-eye in like, one panel near the start of Aaron’s Avengers run, but that’s it.

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Mizerous Takat Empress from Outworld Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: Brewing the love potion
Takat Empress
#41770: Aug 21st 2019 at 2:42:42 PM

I like the outfit red and black works well

Mileena Madness
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#41771: Aug 21st 2019 at 2:49:33 PM

Carol shoved Tony through a wall

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#41772: Aug 21st 2019 at 2:53:37 PM

Yeah, but it's Tony. There are probably at least six reasons for someone to do that at any given moment.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#41773: Aug 21st 2019 at 2:54:53 PM

He decided that the second after they agreed to be cordial and professional so they could both work on the avengers together was the appropriate time to ask her if they should bang

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RedM Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: You can be my wingman any time
#41774: Aug 21st 2019 at 3:14:04 PM

[up]Tony’s brain: “Well, it’s not like she’s dating my best friend anymore, sooo...”

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Dr.XXX The Mad Doctor Since: Aug, 2014
The Mad Doctor
#41775: Aug 21st 2019 at 4:05:47 PM

Civil War II is like the first time my friend tried alcohol: a bunch of Meaningless Meaningful Words were said, someone passed out, and onlookers were baffled. By the end of it all, none of it mattered.


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