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GrigorII Since: Aug, 2011
#40351: May 17th 2019 at 5:32:23 PM

Bullseye with guns? No, I don't find that strange. I think that it was about time.

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#40352: May 17th 2019 at 5:35:22 PM

Bullseye is a show off, so he uses pretty much anything to kill people.

Guns make it too easy.

Edited by Blueace on May 17th 2019 at 8:35:41 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#40353: May 17th 2019 at 5:41:28 PM

Yeah any moron can kill someone with a gun. That’s why the samurai fell. You don’t need much training to use a gun compared to a bow & arrow.

A banana though, now killing with that takes real skill.

Edited by slimcoder on May 17th 2019 at 5:43:11 AM

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#40354: May 17th 2019 at 5:45:14 PM

I'd say guns require more skill because of how much more powerful they are than bows and arrows.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#40355: May 17th 2019 at 5:47:01 PM

Not really.

With a gun you just need to learn how to handle it & the recoil.

A bow & arrow requires enough strength to pull the string & launch the arrow, aiming while under the strain of pulling the string, & figuring out the arch of the shot.

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GrigorII Since: Aug, 2011
#40356: May 17th 2019 at 6:07:25 PM

"Any moron can kill someone with a gun"? Not if they learned to use it at the Imperial Stormtrooper Marksmanship Academy, like most villains.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#40357: May 17th 2019 at 6:10:21 PM

That’s only in effect with heroes, they kill everyone else pretty well.

And even on the heroes side, when they get a gun they become easily effective.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#40360: May 17th 2019 at 6:40:22 PM

Bullseye only uses guns when he's taking his target seriously.

Which means he's taking Jen seriously. Not that guns would do much against her.

Depends on what kinda ammunition he's packing. If he's taking her as seriously as you say (and as I understand it, Bullseye usually avoids heavy hitting heroes like Jen because he's fully aware he's just a normal dude who could easily get pwned by them so it makes sense he would take her seriously) then I can picture him splurging for an adamantium bullet...or a vibranium bullet...or an admatium vibranium bullet.

Or whatever it was Hawkeye used to kill Bruce, but as a bullet.

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#40361: May 17th 2019 at 6:48:06 PM

Uselessium for all the no good it did

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Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
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#40362: May 17th 2019 at 6:51:15 PM

Think your target coming back to life is a good reason for a refund on the bullets or the assassin?

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RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
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#40363: May 17th 2019 at 6:51:23 PM

Hawkeye killed Bruce so badly it wrapped around and made him immortal.

Edited by RodimusMinor on May 17th 2019 at 9:51:44 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#40364: May 17th 2019 at 6:51:36 PM

What are you talking about?

It turned Hulk into an even worse monster....sad

This isn't gonna lead to people shitting on Hawkeye is it? Cause I'm kinda sick of that.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#40365: May 17th 2019 at 6:56:23 PM

Let’s shit on Bendis for forcing the situation of Hawkeye killing Banner.

Also shit on him for his odd way of writing Hawkeye in general.

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#40366: May 17th 2019 at 7:00:52 PM

Bendis truly didn’t get Hawkeye

Deliberately. He deliberately did not get the character

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#40367: May 17th 2019 at 7:04:32 PM

[up]I'm not sure he got half of the characters he wrote really. Or cared too.

Edited by kkhohoho on May 17th 2019 at 9:04:48 AM

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RodimusMinor Professional Complainer Since: Oct, 2018
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#40368: May 17th 2019 at 7:06:58 PM

I haven't read much of classic Avengers but from what I gathered Hawkeye was so against heroes killing that he divorced his wife for killing her rapist.

So making him the guy who wants to murder everything all the time is questionable.

kkhohoho Deranged X-Mas Figure from The Insanity Pole Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#40369: May 17th 2019 at 7:15:02 PM

[up]Actually I'm pretty sure she divorced him because he wouldn't side with her on the whole 'killing the rapist' thing despite being her husband. Though it's been so long that I'm bit sketchy on the details.

Either way it still shows Hawkeye as being so against killing that he's willing to risk splitting with his wife over it. Even in post-Bendis Secret Avengers he's very reluctant to take part in what are essentially assassinations and has to basically be shanghaied.

Edited by kkhohoho on May 17th 2019 at 9:17:40 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
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#40370: May 17th 2019 at 7:20:44 PM

Ironically his Ultimate-self is as sadistic or insane as Bullseye apparently.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#40371: May 17th 2019 at 7:24:42 PM

Clint later admitted to Bobbi that he was wrong and he understood why she killed the Phantom Rider.

Edited by windleopard on May 17th 2019 at 7:25:29 AM

kkhohoho Deranged X-Mas Figure from The Insanity Pole Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#40372: May 17th 2019 at 7:26:09 PM

Although one can argue she never should have been raped in the first place.

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windleopard from Nigeria Since: Nov, 2014 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
#40374: May 17th 2019 at 7:27:43 PM

[up][up]True. Still her actually getting revenge on the bastard who raped her is better than how most superhero stories about rape happen.

Edited by windleopard on May 17th 2019 at 7:28:08 AM

HalfFaust Since: Jan, 2019
#40375: May 18th 2019 at 1:25:26 AM

I'm still not on board with Hulk being immortal but the whole Hawkeye situation was dumb


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