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Can anyone more familiar with the Marvel Universe give me the context behind this seemingly unflattering comment from Norman Osborn to the Olympian goddess Hebe◊? Is he calling Hebe's sexual virtue into question, or is he saying that trying to make a move on her will earn the wrath of at least one of her parents and thus have him cursed with an STD? If the latter... why chlamydia in particular?

Seems like the former honestly

Norman is a dick and a misogynist

Edited by Bocaj on Jan 31st 2019 at 1:00:16 PM

Well, there's a few arguments:

• She's a Greek God, they're known for sleeping around.
• In mythology (unsure of the comics), she's the wife of Hercules. He's known for sleeping around.
• She was cupbearer to the Gods. All of them. Given that Zeus was sleeping with her successor Ganymede, Cupbearer may be a position that includes the supply of sexual services.

Meanwhile in Captain America #8:

Cap is accused of murdering Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross and he turns himself in...but not before he can hand his shield to Sharon, who proceeds to summon Invisible Woman, White Tiger, Mockingbird, Echo, Misty Knight, Dr. Annabelle Riggs and Jessica Drew to become the "Daughters of Liberty."

Is this still written by Ta-Nehisi Coates? Because that by description sounds epic AF... Like, we need to give this run its own page ASAP.

I'm surprised that someone other than Bunn is using Riggs.

When did Echo came back?

The last Daredevil Annual.

And, no, they didn't explain how.

Dammit Doc Sampson, look at the precedent you preceset

How do you think they get to come back these days? Having a drinking contest?

So, I'm trying to jog my memory on all the big cosmic items in the marvel universe:

There's the Stones / Gems and the Gauntlet.

The's the Cosmic Cube (which is a stone in the MCU).

There's the Ultimate Nullifier.

I guess there's Quasar's Quantum Bands.

The Phoenix Force is more an living being than an item, but I'll toss it in as well.

What else do we got here?

The Kree Universal Weapons are high middle tier cosmic

There’s the Power Cosmic and the Power Primevil if we’re counting the Phoenix Force

There’s the Shi’ar murder bird robot gems for the Darkhawk or whatever

The Nova helmets and their Nova Force

Starlord had Ship and his element gun before he broke them but I think he got the gun back

These aren’t all big tier things though.

The Black Vortex?

Edited by Bocaj on Feb 3rd 2019 at 2:44:48 PM

Marvel's half of the JLA/Avengers scavenger hunt was ultimate nullifier, evil eye of Avalon, Wand of Watoomb, casket of ancient winters, infinity gauntlet and cosmic cube. IIRC, the Wand of Watoomb was pointed out to be one per dimension at one point which probably gives it some bonus points over just 'magical item'.

All-Black (aka The Annihilblade, The God-Slayer, The Necrosword) is a living sword capable of Celestial-murder, does that count?

Yes.

Given how Brian K. Vaughn's comics usually end, maybe it was good that he left Runaways when he did, though Whedon wasn't a good replacement.

How so, what’s the deal with Vaughn?

Going by the end off Ex Machina and Saga, if he had kept on Nico and Chase probably would have been bludgeoned to death for shock.

Thanks for the Saga spoilers.

Wait, Saga ended? It's not just on it's yearly break, like, actually ended?

I just googled it, it looks like Saga is just on hiatus.

Sorry to come in randomly like this

But, I wanted to basically put an end to the back and forth:

Is Hank Pym responsible for his actions as Yellow Jacket in Avengers 59 and 60 when he believes he's a separate person who killed Hank Pym because of chemically induced schizophrenia? I only am asking because there's been a minor edit war on both The Wasp and Ant-man's main page regarding if it should be considered Hank committing the actions (namely attacking the other avengers, choking out and kidnapping Janet and forcefully kissing her) or the yellow jacket character which was born out of the insanity?

I'm arguing that much like mind control it shouldn't be considered Hank Pym since Yellowjacket literally believes he killed Hank or at least left Hank to die and doesn't believe he's Hank again until the mental jolt from possibly watching her die on their wedding day.

It should probably count in the same way that we count when someone is mind controlled: they weren't in their right mind at the time, and when using it as a trope example, it should be noted that they weren't in their right mind.

You know, given that Ultron is a robotic reflection of Hank’s own mind, I’m holding out hope that someday Ultron will snap and manifest his own version of the Yellowjacket persona. Unless that’s already what Ultron is, which is believable.

Well Red M, depending on how you view it there have been several:

-Ultron-8 from Old Man Logan Who was step father to Ashley Barton aka Spider-Bitch (Grand Daughter of Peter), and according to the story was a better father to her than Clint was.

- Ultron-12 ,who was one that grew on friendly terms with Hank and pretty heroic... until he was ripped apart by Ultron-11

- Ultron-15, an ultron that appeared to be an emotional alcoholic, liked to hit up jazz clubs in the classic trench coat and hat disguise combo, having what he believed were dreams and actually begged for the life of his "son" Vision. He was last seen leaving with Vision and Jocasta at the end of the 1995 Vision mini series. (I personally like to believe he is around in the general marvel public living a life disguised as a human bicentennial man style).

Aw I miss Mark the Ultron