HIIIHOOO!!!
Damn, I had a feeling I'd get bottom paged. I guess I'll just repost it under this folder:
- Towa and Mira are usually the villains in some capacity (but not always the main ones)
- The Time Patrol are usually around in some capacity
- Time travel plays a huge roll
- A lot of what-if scenarios and forms happen
- Characters from different timelines tend to get mind controlled in various ways
Now for things that certain games have added to the lore, Dragon Ball Online:
- Takes place in Age 1000
- All humans have a small bit of saiyan DNA, but can only go Super Saiyan by dragon ball
- Beastmen create the Red Pants Army to rise against the humans, though some higher members are either decendants or ressurected members of the Red Ribbon Army
- Mira has a sister named Churai who can shapeshift
- Lord Narak is a dark namekian similar to King Piccolo, and has an army of mutated, dragon-like dark namekians
- This game introduced the Red-Eye Namekian form, but only in the opening cutscene
- Fu is introduced as a baby
Dragon Ball Xenoverse:
- Takes place during the 850's
- The main hero of the first game is canonically named Ace
- Demigra is introduced, along with the concept of "Demon Gods"
- Mira is destroyed and rebuilt to become stronger between the two games
- Trunks tries saving Future Gohan even though he knows he can't mess with timeline
- Mira's SS5-esque fusion with Towa is introduced
- Bardock escapes his mind control and is seemingly wandering through timelines
- Bulma creates a game using figues called the Hero Colosseum
- An older Fu appears as a wild card who wants to mess with time just for fun and experimentation
Dragon Ball Heroes:
- According to the original manga, the game was made sometime before the events of A Hero's Legacy
- The game was created by the Capsule Corp, based on legends of Goku and his friends and family
- Towa's Time Breakers eventually become the Demon Realm Army, headed by Mechikabura
- The Supreme Kai of Time's name is revealed to be Chronoa
- Demigra and his secretary Rovel reluctantly side with the Time Patrol to help overthrow Mechikabura
- SSG Trunks defeats Mechikabura with a Keysword (it's literally a fucking keyblade)
- A ton of characters get new forms (Baby Hatchiyack, Ultimate Goten, Golden Meta-Cooler, etc...)
- Characters from other games and manga get added (Neko Majin, Kuriza, Android 21, Ozotto, etc...)
- Sealas is a former Galactic Patrolman and Time Patroller who went rouge after noticing the restrictions Chronoa places on time patrollers when it comes to saving people
- Fu's experiments become more erratic, with his goal being to eventually create a new universe
- Cumber is an ancient saiyan with a dark aura who can make anyone who comes in contact become berserk
- Hearts along his ragtag group of fighters try to take over the multiverse so he could eventually try to overthrow the Zenos
- Fu eventually figures out he's Towa and Mira's son and absorbs Mechikabura's energy to become the next Dark Lord
- A new, incomplete universe has currently been created
- Red-Eye Namekians are finally playable, along with a slew of other new avatar-related forms
- Beat is revealed to be the direct descendent of Goku.
Dragon Ball Fusions:
- Two rivals name Tekka and Pinich accidentally merge all timelines together via the dragon balls
- This in turn creates a interdimensional Timespace Tournament
- Pinich's mentor is Vegeta but his idol is Mr. Satan
- The game introduces 5-way fusions called "Ultra Fusions", created by the Ginyu Force
- Bulma creates Metamo-Rings for fusions without time restrictions
- The game introduces a ton of new fusions and brings back obscure ones (Karoly, Vegenks, Brapan, Tiencha, Prillin, etc...)
- Towa and Mira briefly appear to turn Broly into a Legendary Oozaru
- Saiba-King is a powerful saibaman made up of multiple saibamen fused together
- The Doola Force is an all-female version of the Ginyu Force, with their leader being the Jeice counterpart
DBZ Kakarot:
- Explains what certain characters from the first half of DB were doing during the events of DBZ
- It also explains why the Beastmen population declined during DBZ, due to humans stop taking a drug from the Red Ribbon Army that made them into beastmen
- Bonyu was a former Ginyu Force member who was rejected due to not posing hard enough
- Android 21's human self seems to make frequent appearances throughout the game for some reason
- Towa and Mira appear as the final boss, putting this game's placement between XV1 and XV2
There's probably more plot points that I'm missing, but those were the ones I could remember off the top of my head. I would've included FighterZ and Legends, but their stories don't seem to be currently connected to the rest of the video game canon outside of cameos.
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No problem, the lore that most modern DB games add is pretty interesting, even if some of it doesn't make sense.
Edited by Rinsankajugin on Mar 6th 2021 at 8:45:31 AM
Gavan, Let's get jiggy!
The Merry Monarch of Darkness
Are we to assume that since, as mentioned, no other section of the franchise seems to be doing anything with them, the games' take on the Demons is as "official canon" as it's gonna get?
The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."
HIIIHOOO!!!
Official, yes; canon, probably not. The demon that killed Jiren's family and Moro are probably the closest we're gonna get at the moment.
Gavan, Let's get jiggy!
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
By the way, the Demon Realm is the same one Dabura ruled, and Towa is Dabura's sister.
The Merry Monarch of Darkness
I did know that, yeah, that’s why I was so interested; the games seem to have done a lot to make Dabura and the Demons in general less of the Giant Space Flea they were in the original series.
Mr. Clueless
They're certainly canon, given that it's from official media. Whether it's canon to the manga, however, is a different matter.
De Romanīs, lingua Latina gloriosa non fuī.
To put that in a significantly less confusing way, they demon worldbuilding is canon to the Bandai-Namco games' continuity, which continue to either build on it (or Broad Strokes / retell it) as time goes on. They are not, however, canon to the primary continuity of the franchise.
Edited by KnownUnknown on Mar 6th 2021 at 3:10:17 AM
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
You know what just occurred to me?
In the English dub of the Saiyan Saga, Nappa is baffled at how the Saibamen he planted are being defeated. These are allegedly the same ones that survived a crazy battle on Traddyck. Shortly after, the one Tien defeats is killed by Vegeta, and Nappa is disturbed by the action.
- First, he even says the Saibamen was "alive," as if Nappa has some sort of respect for plant life.
- Second, what the hell was on Traddyck
Edited by FOFD on Mar 6th 2021 at 9:31:01 AM
Akira Toriyama (April 5 1955 - March 1, 2024).
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
They clearly know how to throw some wild ass parties on Traddyck.
One Strip! One Strip!
That business on Traddyck doesn't... doesn't count.
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
Y'all just ignoring the implication that Saibamen revert back to seeds and can be re-planted?
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
......when has that ever been stated?
Plus, even if it was, all of them were thoroughly disintegrated. There wouldn't be any seeds left to collect.
One Strip! One Strip!
Baby dango
Nappa claims the Saibamen that he planted fought a previous battle, thus meaning they can be replanted.
Edited by Ikedatakeshi on Mar 7th 2021 at 12:43:18 AM
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
Oh right. Right there in the post.
My statement still stands however. They could be replanted because they SURVIVED that battle.
There's gotta be something left to plant.
One Strip! One Strip!
Snow Ghost
The real implication is that it explains why Cell can revert into an egg or a very big seed
It's because he has Saibaimen DNA in him
Edited by randomness4 on Mar 6th 2021 at 8:49:22 AM
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Story idea: Broly and Kale meet for anger management group therapy. Neither universe survives.
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
Never noticed how many times Freeza got hit in the stomach.
Little Gohan going to town on Freeza's precious organs is the best thing.
"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Call me Blast, not Fedetropes
Freezer:"Hahahahaha, stupid monkeys get weak when you pull their tails, what a silly weak spot!"
Saiyans:"Haha, look at this little tummy, let me try something on it"
Yes I ripped it off from the comment section
Edited by Fedetropes on Mar 7th 2021 at 9:08:06 AM
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CHADhan Player.
This is the worst question Mark could have asked on Twitter...
Never cared much about the turn of the millenium big 3 shonens, and One Piece certainly doesn't really attract me; never much of a pirate fan, and the sheer lenght is off putting.
CHADhan Player.
I feel like Dragon Ball is more accessible, but not as tightly written.
Man, if Mark can catch up to the series in only a few months, so can you. Be a MAN.
IHE
For me personally, One Piece is one of the best Shonen because of how well Oda treats its casts & knew what to focus on, the Straw Hat crew. It hasn't been like that since the time-skip but the Wano arc finally addresses that problem.
And few months isn't really all that hard to go through if you thoroughly enjoy the series you're reading.
That's fair, but if you're ever interested in One Piece stop at Arlong arc because the writing never really changes after that.
CHADhan Player.
I don't think that's a problem at all honestly. It makes the world of One Piece feel large when everything isn't revolving around the main characters only.
I get what you're saying, but I definitely don't see an issue with newer characters getting their due.
A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
I'm especially interested in this "cycle" of games because they're the only sources that seem to go deeply into the lore of the Demons, something Toriyama himself rather infamously neglected.
The pig of Hufflepuff pulsed like a large bullfrog. Dumbledore smiled at it, and placed his hand on its head: "You are Hagrid now."