Manga/Dragon Ball

New episode of SDBH:

The next arc is the Timespace War... The hooded guy is most definitely some sort of Saiyan, and now we're getting Time Breaker Goku Black.

Edited by Rinsankajugin on Feb 24th 2021 at 12:56:14 PM

It's getting too absurd. No, it's been too absurd.

they're going to have to come up with Double Fused Gogeta-Vegito Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken in order to make these characters stronger.

Or, now, I guess it'll be Adept Ultra Instinct Goku and Hyper God of Destruction Vegeta.

DB Heroes is basically Db that got Flanderized to the extreme - it's nothing but random fights with ever more powerful bad guys that come out of woodwork with no rhyme or reason.

Gogeta and Vegetto might fuse?

Following standard fusion naming conventions, I propose this fusion be named... Vegeta!

Edited by TobiasDrake on Feb 25th 2021 at 7:35:36 AM

Finally there will be a Vegeta stronger than Goku

Just use Vegeku.

@Shulgo: That, or it turned DB into the Chinese Manhua and stories that influenced it.

Happens all the time.

still no SSJ Pan.

Videl went Super Saiyan before Pan did.

What

He's talking about Videl getting a super saiyan aura while helping perform the god ritual (since it needed 6 pure hearted saiyans—one to receive the power and 5 to give it—and Videl was pregnant with Pan at the time, making Pan the 5th).

Chronologically, that's not surprising given that Pan was not born at the time.

Sad but true

It'd be nice to see Videl fight again though. Too bad there's not a way for humans to gain more upgrades beyond flight, Potential Unleashed, and training.

Well they could always give her the Fighter Z upgrades.

Why couldn't they let humans get Kaio-ken? (I want my OC to describe a chi technique he developed which he calls Full Burning, only for an existing character to tell him it's very impressive but it's just Kaio-ken.) Agreed on Videl needing to get back in there, she was so close to learning chi attacks.

Inventing ways for characters to get powerups isn't exactly a rarity for this series. The human cast doesn't not get new and crazy powerups because they can't, but because the writers choose not to.

Videl being a Satellite Character for Gohan, we're unlikely to ever see her developed at all unfortunately unless they actually make a Gohan-centric adaptation.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 26th 2021 at 9:12:09 AM

Ah, reminder that, while the base Saiyans hadn't surpassed Freeza until Super, Piccolo was walking around at something in the ballpark of Cell's second form. Piccolo was the king of asspulled powerups.

Well, the humans were always there to make Goku (and then Goku and Vegeta) look good.

Their importance was always in relation to him. Krillin only got as strong as he did because he was the one who Toriyama chose as Goku's best friend, and the team normal, and that was probably because Toriyama liked him more than the others and considered them expendable.

And, between the U6 Tournament and the Tournament of Power, Piccolo trained off-screen to go from weaker than final form Frost to choking out SS2 Gohan with ease. TOP Piccolo would beat Super Perfect Cell's ass as a warm-up.

Edited by PushoverMediaCritic on Feb 26th 2021 at 10:46:29 AM

As Iv'e said before, I'd be fine with the Humans gaining more Daoist Cultivator type shit in order to be relatively stronger. Bone Forging Realm, Qui Channeling Ream, Heavenly Realm, Transcendant realm, all that shit and have it be human exclusive.

The humans are very good fighters, but the issue is that Goku comes along and goes "Cool, lemme try to do it!".

Thats most Manhua protags in a nutshell, anyhow.

The one time he truly failed is in the manga, when he tried to do that to Beerus' fucking Hakai.

x5 at least we know Piccolo could've beaten Frost had it not been for the poison.

If he didn't choose to re-forfeit and beat Frost, I wonder how'd he fare against Magetta in the Universe 7 vs 6 fight.

Personally, I'll take a Piccolo & Gohan arc in the future. Toei at least cares about the former (almost one-shotting Frost (6 vs 7), making a video on reminding everyone how to use the Evil Containment Wave (Goku Black), training Gohan (Recruitment), him vs the Namekians and taking out one of Universe 4's surprise warriors (Universal Survival) and we're just going to ignore him getting eliminated) and Toriyama did have the two do pretty well in their battle.

How did Piccolo get eliminated in the manga TOP again?

Same way as in the anime. Took out the invisible fighter but lost to the insect one.